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his days of beheading are over
Last edited by jct74; 01-27-2015 at 08:44 AM.
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If there ever was a wrong time for $#@! to hit the fan in Saudi Arabia, this is it.
There has been a brewing succession battle under the covers for years, expecting his death. Now there is a powerful ISIS to back the side with the most Islamist stance.
If ISIS takes Mecca... ...wow.
The problem with the US, is it cant destroy oil infrastructure. If ISIS captures it, they get to sell that oil, because NATO will not destroy its own oil wells. Plus, they need the price of oil low right now, because they are trying to use it as leverage to bully Russia. But that leverage is backfiring, since Iraq needs money to fight ISIS, and their economy is mostly oil based, and they are missing out on massive revenues from Mosul. What's more, if they destroy oil fields in Iraq and Saudi Arabia, then they cant sell it, it drives up price, and Russia can. It is lose-lose.
Now the king dies, and succession war, in this climate, is almost a certainty. Any side that can court ISIS, will probably be the side that takes the throne. And of course,in Saudi Arabia, there are powerful people in the Saud family, who would both leap at the chance, and feel deep, ideological closeness to ISIS.
Last edited by UWDude; 01-22-2015 at 06:03 PM.
I'm sure we, I mean they, have a contingency plan..
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/sa...ounces-n291766Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah has died, state television announced early Friday. He was 90.
King Abdullah's successor, half-brother Deputy Prime Minister Salman bin Abdul Aziz, became king immediately after his death, state television reported.
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Salman is aged in his 80s and is widely thought to be in bad health. Prince Muqrin bin Abdul Aziz, who is also King Abdullah's half-brother and is a former head of Saudi intelligence, was named crown prince.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30945324
I'm on my iPad so I can't easily copy paste the article
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Actually I've been thinking about this for a week now. If we were serious about beating ISIS we should have destroyed their oil infrastructure at the START of the bombing campaign. ISIS only controls a fraction of Iraq's oil at the moment. They seem to control more of Syria's as the Syrians have been buying oil from ISIS. So have the Kurds. ISIS controls a large part of the Kurds oil but not the oil in the Shiite dominated part of Iraq. That and we should be working 100% with Assad. But....we aren't serious about stopping ISIS.Originally Posted by UWDude
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Bush should have taken Saudi instead of Iraq in 2001.
I don't even know who the new guy in charge will be but..
House of Saud has a long distinguished line of brutal-tyrannical successors to keep the global terror war and repressive domestic violence operating. How's the ICC(International Criminal Court), HRW(Human Rights Watch-embedded into the Dept of State), and Interpol working on taking Saudi Arabia's crimes against humanity to international court?Will W. Bush be holding his hand or Barry bowing at the funeral tomorrow?
Oh that's right, the House of Saud is a partner in the "Axis of KAOS" countries. Immune from any charges... when you're part of the 'Allies of Evil"
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Can't be good. ISIS is at one border, a just about failed state in Yemen is at another border.
If there is any sort of power vacuum, who knows what will happen, the whole middle east could go up in flames, especially if the factions of the Saudi royal family sympathetic to terrorists get power.
So much for $2 gas.
I snipped this headline from 1 AUG 2005, let's see if history repeats in the MATRIX.
Crude Oil Climbs After Saudi King Dies; BP Refinery Unit Shut
By Stephen Voss - August 1, 2005 04:32 EDT
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=a0Gd7XgnhrCQ
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Let's hope the "12th imam" prophecy is a bunch of hooey and nobody tries to make sure it is fulfilled.
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4 horsemen time?
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Hm.
The Royal House bin Laden has been transferring power uneventfully for a very long time. If I'm betting, I'm betting this is a fine time for the bin Laden house to stick together, and the vast majority of them are smart enough to know it.
HAHA, the Saudis were in on 911.
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And the only ones in our airspace on 9/12.
A trend, it seems.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...l-on-thursday/
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"The king is dead. Long live the king."I don't even know who the new guy in charge will be but..
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That's actually good.
What would you rather have: Gas is so cheap - lets tax it. Then when prices rise, the tax stays and we end up paying $8 a gallon
OR
Gas prices just went way up, we can't pass a gas tax now. $4 gal gas.
-t
besides now they have a fall guy they can edit into those 16 redacted pages and we might finally be able to read them.
Oh, this is rich!
Just announced on the tube: Saudi heir has DEMENTIA ie: he's bat $#@! crazy.
It gets better:
Saudi nuclear weapons 'on order' from Pakistan
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-24823846
Saudi Arabia has invested in Pakistani nuclear weapons projects, and believes it could obtain atomic bombs at will, a variety of sources have told BBC Newsnight.
While the kingdom's quest has often been set in the context of countering Iran's atomic programme, it is now possible that the Saudis might be able to deploy such devices more quickly than the Islamic republic.
Earlier this year, a senior Nato decision maker told me that he had seen intelligence reporting that nuclear weapons made in Pakistan on behalf of Saudi Arabia are now sitting ready for delivery.
Saudi Arabia May Go Nuclear Because of Obama’s Iran Deal
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...iran-deal.html
And now, one of the countries in the region without a full-blown nuclear programs—Saudi Arabia—may be changing its mind. Riyadh has a long-standing interest in nuclear power. But Western and Israeli intelligence services are starting to see signs that this interest is growing more serious, and extends into nuclear enrichment. Until recently, the pursuit of nuclear enrichment—or the fuel cycle—was considered by arms control experts as a tell-tale sign of a clandestine weapons program. Nuclear fuel is sold to all members of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, but it’s far more costly to build the infrastructure and produce it indigenously. Saudi Arabia appears to be getting more serious about going down that path.
If Saudi Arabia pursue nuclear enrichment even if there is an Iran deal, then the victory to curb atomic weapons that Obama has tried to achieve will be at least partially undone by his own diplomacy.
Terrorist Sponsors: Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, China
http://www.cato.org/publications/com...pakistan-china
Sudi Arabia enlisted in the fight against terrorism only in response to intense pressure from the United States following the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Even then, its cooperation has been minimal and grudging. For example, Riyadh has resisted Washington’s requests to use its bases in Saudi Arabia for military operations against Osama bin Laden’s terrorist facilities in Afghanistan.
Even that belated, tepid participation is an improvement on Saudi Arabia’s previous conduct. The U.S. government has warned that it will treat regimes that harbor or assist terrorist organizations the same way that it treats the organizations themselves. Yet if Washington is serious about that policy, it ought to regard Saudi Arabia as a prime sponsor of international terrorism. Indeed, that country should have been included for years on the U.S. State Department’s annual list of governments guilty of sponsoring terrorism.
The Saudi government has been the principal financial backer of Afghanistan’ s odious Taliban movement since at least 1996. It has also channeled funds to Hamas and other groups that have committed terrorist acts in Israel and other portions of the Middle East.
Worst of all, the Saudi monarchy has funded dubious schools and “charities” throughout the Islamic world. Those organizations have been hotbeds of anti-Western, and especially, anti-American, indoctrination. The schools, for example, not only indoctrinate students in a virulent and extreme form of Islam, but also teach them to hate secular Western values.
Screw the popcorn! Where's the bomb shelter?
-t
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Obama Issues Statement On The Death Of Saudi King Abdullah, Praises "Vision", US-Saudi Relationship
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-0...di-relationshi
I hope he's enjoying hell.Just released by the White House:
And while Obama was impressed by Abdullah's vision to the "education of his people" he had no comment on the one US "ally" which has beheaded a record number of people in recent years making even ISIS blush by comparison, as reported in US Ally, Saudi Arabia Beheads 87 In 2014, Up Over 10% From 2013 and also Record Beheadings And The Mass Arrest Of Christians.Statement by the President on the Death of King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz
It is with deep respect that I express my personal condolences and the sympathies of the American people to the family of King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz and to the people of Saudi Arabia.
King Abdullah’s life spanned from before the birth of modern Saudi Arabia through its emergence as a critical force within the global economy and a leader among Arab and Islamic nations. He took bold steps in advancing the Arab Peace Initiative, an endeavor that will outlive him as an enduring contribution to the search for peace in the region. At home, King Abdullah's vision was dedicated to the education of his people and to greater engagement with the world.
As our countries worked together to confront many challenges, I always valued King Abdullah’s perspective and appreciated our genuine and warm friendship. As a leader, he was always candid and had the courage of his convictions. One of those convictions was his steadfast and passionate belief in the importance of the U.S.-Saudi relationship as a force for stability and security in the Middle East and beyond. The closeness and strength of the partnership between our two countries is part of King Abdullah’s legacy.
May God grant him peace.
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King Abdullah's Moderate Beheadings
When 'moderate' is a euphemism for 'friendly to U.S. interests'
http://reason.com/blog/2015/01/23/ki...ate-beheadings
From The New York Times' obit for King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, who just died at age 90:
It's supposed to be "moderate" because he was doing it to "militants," I guess.Still, Abdullah became, in some ways, a force of moderation. He contested Al Qaeda's militant interpretations of the faith as justifying, even compelling, terrorist acts. He ordered that textbooks be purged of their most extreme language and sent 900 imams to re-education sessions. He had hundreds of militants arrested and some beheaded.
Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
--Albert J. Nock
I'm sure the 60 Billion in arms sales had nothing to do with this "warm friendship"...As our countries worked together to confront many challenges, I always valued King Abdullah’s perspective and appreciated our genuine and warm friendship. As a leader, he was always candid and had the courage of his convictions. One of those convictions was his steadfast and passionate belief in the importance of the U.S.-Saudi relationship as a force for stability and security in the Middle East and beyond. The closeness and strength of the partnership between our two countries is part of King Abdullah’s legacy.
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An evil man has died, but the regime continues on...
Stop believing stupid things
Is it too late to give him the Nobel Peace Prize???
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#JeSuisAbdullah? Critics slam glowing Western eulogies for ‘reformer’ King Abdullah
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