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  1. #31
    Alex Jones and InfoWars has always been a mixed bag, but he's not someone I would want to really defend a pro-liberty position in a debate. When he's good, it's not because of his great debate skills. Honestly, Ayers isn't that good either. Bill Ayers got obliterated Megyn Kelly of all people. Her extensive interview with him really made him look like a weasel who lacked the courage of his convictions



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    During the 2008 U.S. presidential campaign, a controversy arose regarding Ayers' contacts with then-candidate Barack Obama, a matter that had been public knowledge in Chicago for years.[62] After being raised by the American and British press[62][63][64] the connection was picked up by conservative blogs and newspapers in the United States. The matter was raised in a campaign debate by moderator George Stephanopoulos, and later became an issue for the John McCain presidential campaign. Investigations by The New York Times, CNN, and other news organizations concluded that Obama does not have a close relationship with Ayers.[65][66][67]
    In an op-ed piece after the election, Ayers denied any close association with Obama, and castigated the Republican campaign for its use of guilt by association tactics.[41]
    Praise and criticism of Ayers[edit]

    Praise for Ayers and his work[edit]

    In 1997 Chicago awarded him its Citizen of the Year award for his work on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge project.[49]
    William C. Ibershof, formerly the lead federal prosecutor in the Weather Underground case, wrote in 2008: "Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen."[68]
    Ayers was elected Vice President for Curriculum Studies by the American Educational Research Association in 2008.[69] William H. Schubert, a fellow professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, wrote that his election was "a testimony of [Ayers'] stature and [the] high esteem he holds in the field of education locally, regionally, nationally, and internationally."[70]
    Wall Street Journal columnist Thomas Frank praised Ayers as a "model citizen" and a scholar whose "work is esteemed by colleagues of different political viewpoints."[71] Studs Terkel called Ayers' memoir "a deeply moving elegy to all those young dreamers who tried to live decently in an indecent world."[72]
    In an October 2010 Chicago Sun Times editorial Attacks on Ayers distort our history, former students of Ayers and UIC Alumni, Daniel Schneider and Adam Kuranishi, responded in opposition to the University of Illinois Board of Trustees' decision to deny Ayers Emeritus status. They write, "We juxtaposed the image of him painted by the media with the teacher we saw in class; and the two could not be more distinct. The Ayers in the media was frozen in time; he never left the 1960s, never aged out of his 20s, and never grew in perspective. As his students, we see through this representation ... Ayers is still committed to movements for peace and justice. His worldview and tactics are evolved and elaborate, thoughtful and wise, making him unrecognizable to the media's caricature. Should we not expect someone to evolve after 40 years? One may disagree with his activism, but it is impossible to ignore his hard work and contributions to urban education, juvenile justice reform, the University of Illinois and Chicago."[73]
    Criticism of Ayers and his work[edit]

    Radical bomber[74] Jane Alpert criticized Ayers in 1974 "for his callous treatment and abandonment of Diana Oughton before her death, and for his generally fickle and high-handed treatment of women."[75]
    Reviewing Ayers' memoir in Slate Magazine, Timothy Noah said he couldn't recall reading "a memoir quite so self-indulgent and morally clueless as Fugitive Days."[76] Sol Stern, a conservative opponent of liberal education policies, is a longtime critic of Ayers; he has "studied Mr. Ayers's work for years and read most of his books."[77] Stern has written critiques of Ayers's career as an education reformer for City Journal and elsewhere.[78][79] His criticism in summary: "Calling Bill Ayers a school reformer is a bit like calling Joseph Stalin an agricultural reformer.".[80] "The media mainstreaming of a figure like Mr. Ayers could have terrible consequences for the country's politics and public schools."[77]
    Feminist critic Katha Pollitt sharply criticized Ayers' December 2008 New York Times opinion piece[81] as a "sentimentalized, self-justifying whitewash of his role in the weirdo violent fringe of the 1960s-70s antiwar left." She castigates Ayers and his Weathermen cohorts for making "the antiwar movement look like the enemy of ordinary people" during the Vietnam War era.[82]
    Personal life[edit]


    Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers in Occupy Wall Street, Zuccotti Park, 2012


    Ayers is married to Bernardine Dohrn, a fellow former leader of the Weather Underground. They have two adult children (including Zayd, who was featured in the book A Hope in the Unseen as the college friend of the main character Cedric Jennings) and shared legal guardianship of Chesa Boudin, son of Kathy Boudin and David Gilbert. Boudin and Gilbert were former Weather Underground members who later joined the May 19 Communist Organization and were convicted of felony murder for their roles in that group's Brinks robbery. Chesa Boudin went on to win a Rhodes scholarship.[83] Ayers and Dohrn currently live in the Hyde Park neighborhood of Chicago.[84]
    Works[edit]


    • Education: An American Problem. Bill Ayers, Radical Education Project, 1968, ASIN B0007H31HU OCLC 33088998
    • Hot town: Summer in the City: I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more, Bill Ayers, Students for a Democratic Society, 1969, ASIN B0007I3CMI
    • Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-Imperialism, Bernardine Dohrn, Jeff Jones, Billy Ayers, Celia Sojourn, Communications Co., 1974, ASIN B000GF2KVQ OCLC 1177495
    • The Good Preschool Teacher: Six Teachers Reflect on Their Lives, William Ayers, Teachers College Press, 1989, ISBN 978-0-8077-2946-5
    • To Teach: The Journey of a Teacher, William Ayers, Teachers College Press, 1993, ISBN 978-0-8077-3262-5*
    • To Become a Teacher: Making a Difference in Children's Lives, William Ayers, Teachers College Press, 1995, ISBN 978-0-8077-3455-1
    • City Kids, City Teachers: Reports from the Front Row, William Ayers (Editor) and Patricia Ford (Editor), New Press, 1996, ISBN 978-1-56584-328-8
    • A Kind and Just Parent, William Ayers, Beacon Press, 1997, ISBN 978-0-8070-4402-5
    • A Light in Dark Times: Maxine Greene and the Unfinished Conversation, Maxine Greene (Editor), William Ayers (Editor), Janet L. Miller (Editor), Teachers College Press, 1998, ISBN 978-0-8077-3721-7
    • Teaching for Social Justice: A Democracy and Education Reader, William Ayers (Editor), Jean Ann Hunt (Editor), Therese Quinn (Editor), 1998, ISBN 978-1-56584-420-9
    • Teacher Lore: Learning from Our Own Experience, William H. Schubert (Editor) and William C. Ayers (Editor), Educator's International Press, 1999, ISBN 978-1-891928-03-1
    • Teaching from the Inside Out: The Eight-Fold Path to Creative Teaching and Living, Sue Sommers (Author), William Ayers (Foreword), Authority Press, 2000, ISBN 978-1-929059-02-7
    • A Simple Justice: The Challenge of Small Schools, William Ayers, Teachers College Press, 2000, ISBN 978-0-8077-3963-1
    • Zero Tolerance: Resisting the Drive for Punishment, William Ayers (Editor), Rick Ayers (Editor), Bernardine Dohrn (Editor), Jesse L. Jackson (Author), New Press, 2001, ISBN 978-1-56584-666-1
    • A School of Our Own: Parents, Power, and Community at the East Harlem Block Schools, Tom Roderick (Author), William Ayers (Author), Teachers College Press, 2001, ISBN 978-0-8077-4157-3
    • Refusing Racism: White Allies and the Struggle for Civil Rights, Cynthia Stokes Brown (Author), William Ayers (Editor), Therese Quinn (Editor), Teachers College Press, 2002, ISBN 978-0-8077-4204-4
    • On the Side of the Child: Summerhill Revisited, William Ayers, Teachers College Press, 2003, ISBN 978-0-8077-4400-0
    • Fugitive Days: A Memoir, Bill Ayers, Beacon Press, 2001, ISBN 0-8070-7124-2 (Penguin, 2003, ISBN 978-0-14-200255-1)
    • Teaching the Personal and the Political: Essays on Hope and Justice, William Ayers, Teachers College Press, 2004, ISBN 978-0-8077-4461-1
    • Teaching Toward Freedom: Moral Commitment and Ethical Action in the Classroom, William Ayers, Beacon Press, 2004, ISBN 978-0-8070-3269-5
    • Sing a Battle Song: The Revolutionary Poetry, Statements, and Communiques of the Weather Underground 1970-1974, Bernardine Dohrn, Bill Ayers, and Jeff Jones, Seven Stories Press, 2006, ISBN 978-1-58322-726-8.
    • Handbook of Social Justice in Education, William C. Ayers, Routledge, June 2008, ISBN 978-0-8058-5927-0
    • City Kids, City Schools: More Reports from the Front Row, Ruby Dee (Foreword), Jeff Chang (Afterword), William Ayers (Editor), Billings, Gloria Ladson (Editor), Gregory Michie (Editor), Pedro Noguera (Editor), New Press, August 2008, ISBN 978-1-59558-338-3
    • To Teach: the journey, in comics, William Ayers and Ryan Alexander-Tanner, Jonathan Kozol(Foreword), Teachers College Press, 2010, ISBN 978-0-8077-5062-9
    • Public Enemy. Confessions of an American Dissident, Bill Ayers, Beacon Press, 2013, ISBN978-0-8070-3276-3

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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Coffman View Post
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    Usually a wiki link is all that is necessary for reference. sometimes a quote from the entry.

    That said,, Why?
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  6. #34
    I'm friends with Bill Ayers. (on facebook)
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    How do you suppose he funds his operation? He isn't bankrolled by government funds or taxpayer money.
    I get that, but shilling magic potions isn't all on the up and up for some. I am a listener.

    Maybe he is bankrolled and controlled opposition. He couldn't be selling too much magic DNA formula could he? Hell I don't know.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Coffman View Post
    During the 2008 U.S. presidential campaign, a controversy arose regarding Ayers' contacts with then-candidate Barack Obama, a matter that had been public knowledge in Chicago for years.[62] After being raised by the American and British press[62][63][64] the connection was picked up by conservative blogs and newspapers in the United States. The matter was raised in a campaign debate by moderator George Stephanopoulos, and later became an issue for the John McCain presidential campaign. Investigations by The New York Times, CNN, and other news organizations concluded that Obama does not have a close relationship with Ayers.[65][66][67]
    In an op-ed piece after the election, Ayers denied any close association with Obama, and castigated the Republican campaign for its use of guilt by association tactics.[41]
    Praise and criticism of Ayers[edit]

    Praise for Ayers and his work[edit]

    In 1997 Chicago awarded him its Citizen of the Year award for his work on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge project.[49]
    William C. Ibershof, formerly the lead federal prosecutor in the Weather Underground case, wrote in 2008: "Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen."[68]
    Ayers was elected Vice President for Curriculum Studies by the American Educational Research Association in 2008.[69] William H. Schubert, a fellow professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, wrote that his election was "a testimony of [Ayers'] stature and [the] high esteem he holds in the field of education locally, regionally, nationally, and internationally."[70]
    Wall Street Journal columnist Thomas Frank praised Ayers as a "model citizen" and a scholar whose "work is esteemed by colleagues of different political viewpoints."[71] Studs Terkel called Ayers' memoir "a deeply moving elegy to all those young dreamers who tried to live decently in an indecent world."[72]
    In an October 2010 Chicago Sun Times editorial Attacks on Ayers distort our history, former students of Ayers and UIC Alumni, Daniel Schneider and Adam Kuranishi, responded in opposition to the University of Illinois Board of Trustees' decision to deny Ayers Emeritus status. They write, "We juxtaposed the image of him painted by the media with the teacher we saw in class; and the two could not be more distinct. The Ayers in the media was frozen in time; he never left the 1960s, never aged out of his 20s, and never grew in perspective. As his students, we see through this representation ... Ayers is still committed to movements for peace and justice. His worldview and tactics are evolved and elaborate, thoughtful and wise, making him unrecognizable to the media's caricature. Should we not expect someone to evolve after 40 years? One may disagree with his activism, but it is impossible to ignore his hard work and contributions to urban education, juvenile justice reform, the University of Illinois and Chicago."[73]
    Criticism of Ayers and his work[edit]

    Radical bomber[74] Jane Alpert criticized Ayers in 1974 "for his callous treatment and abandonment of Diana Oughton before her death, and for his generally fickle and high-handed treatment of women."[75]
    Reviewing Ayers' memoir in Slate Magazine, Timothy Noah said he couldn't recall reading "a memoir quite so self-indulgent and morally clueless as Fugitive Days."[76] Sol Stern, a conservative opponent of liberal education policies, is a longtime critic of Ayers; he has "studied Mr. Ayers's work for years and read most of his books."[77] Stern has written critiques of Ayers's career as an education reformer for City Journal and elsewhere.[78][79] His criticism in summary: "Calling Bill Ayers a school reformer is a bit like calling Joseph Stalin an agricultural reformer.".[80] "The media mainstreaming of a figure like Mr. Ayers could have terrible consequences for the country's politics and public schools."[77]
    Feminist critic Katha Pollitt sharply criticized Ayers' December 2008 New York Times opinion piece[81] as a "sentimentalized, self-justifying whitewash of his role in the weirdo violent fringe of the 1960s-70s antiwar left." She castigates Ayers and his Weathermen cohorts for making "the antiwar movement look like the enemy of ordinary people" during the Vietnam War era.[82]
    Personal life[edit]


    Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers in Occupy Wall Street, Zuccotti Park, 2012


    Ayers is married to Bernardine Dohrn, a fellow former leader of the Weather Underground. They have two adult children (including Zayd, who was featured in the book A Hope in the Unseen as the college friend of the main character Cedric Jennings) and shared legal guardianship of Chesa Boudin, son of Kathy Boudin and David Gilbert. Boudin and Gilbert were former Weather Underground members who later joined the May 19 Communist Organization and were convicted of felony murder for their roles in that group's Brinks robbery. Chesa Boudin went on to win a Rhodes scholarship.[83] Ayers and Dohrn currently live in the Hyde Park neighborhood of Chicago.[84]
    Works[edit]


    • Education: An American Problem. Bill Ayers, Radical Education Project, 1968, ASIN B0007H31HU OCLC 33088998
    • Hot town: Summer in the City: I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more, Bill Ayers, Students for a Democratic Society, 1969, ASIN B0007I3CMI
    • Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-Imperialism, Bernardine Dohrn, Jeff Jones, Billy Ayers, Celia Sojourn, Communications Co., 1974, ASIN B000GF2KVQ OCLC 1177495
    • The Good Preschool Teacher: Six Teachers Reflect on Their Lives, William Ayers, Teachers College Press, 1989, ISBN 978-0-8077-2946-5
    • To Teach: The Journey of a Teacher, William Ayers, Teachers College Press, 1993, ISBN 978-0-8077-3262-5*
    • To Become a Teacher: Making a Difference in Children's Lives, William Ayers, Teachers College Press, 1995, ISBN 978-0-8077-3455-1
    • City Kids, City Teachers: Reports from the Front Row, William Ayers (Editor) and Patricia Ford (Editor), New Press, 1996, ISBN 978-1-56584-328-8
    • A Kind and Just Parent, William Ayers, Beacon Press, 1997, ISBN 978-0-8070-4402-5
    • A Light in Dark Times: Maxine Greene and the Unfinished Conversation, Maxine Greene (Editor), William Ayers (Editor), Janet L. Miller (Editor), Teachers College Press, 1998, ISBN 978-0-8077-3721-7
    • Teaching for Social Justice: A Democracy and Education Reader, William Ayers (Editor), Jean Ann Hunt (Editor), Therese Quinn (Editor), 1998, ISBN 978-1-56584-420-9
    • Teacher Lore: Learning from Our Own Experience, William H. Schubert (Editor) and William C. Ayers (Editor), Educator's International Press, 1999, ISBN 978-1-891928-03-1
    • Teaching from the Inside Out: The Eight-Fold Path to Creative Teaching and Living, Sue Sommers (Author), William Ayers (Foreword), Authority Press, 2000, ISBN 978-1-929059-02-7
    • A Simple Justice: The Challenge of Small Schools, William Ayers, Teachers College Press, 2000, ISBN 978-0-8077-3963-1
    • Zero Tolerance: Resisting the Drive for Punishment, William Ayers (Editor), Rick Ayers (Editor), Bernardine Dohrn (Editor), Jesse L. Jackson (Author), New Press, 2001, ISBN 978-1-56584-666-1
    • A School of Our Own: Parents, Power, and Community at the East Harlem Block Schools, Tom Roderick (Author), William Ayers (Author), Teachers College Press, 2001, ISBN 978-0-8077-4157-3
    • Refusing Racism: White Allies and the Struggle for Civil Rights, Cynthia Stokes Brown (Author), William Ayers (Editor), Therese Quinn (Editor), Teachers College Press, 2002, ISBN 978-0-8077-4204-4
    • On the Side of the Child: Summerhill Revisited, William Ayers, Teachers College Press, 2003, ISBN 978-0-8077-4400-0
    • Fugitive Days: A Memoir, Bill Ayers, Beacon Press, 2001, ISBN 0-8070-7124-2 (Penguin, 2003, ISBN 978-0-14-200255-1)
    • Teaching the Personal and the Political: Essays on Hope and Justice, William Ayers, Teachers College Press, 2004, ISBN 978-0-8077-4461-1
    • Teaching Toward Freedom: Moral Commitment and Ethical Action in the Classroom, William Ayers, Beacon Press, 2004, ISBN 978-0-8070-3269-5
    • Sing a Battle Song: The Revolutionary Poetry, Statements, and Communiques of the Weather Underground 1970-1974, Bernardine Dohrn, Bill Ayers, and Jeff Jones, Seven Stories Press, 2006, ISBN 978-1-58322-726-8.
    • Handbook of Social Justice in Education, William C. Ayers, Routledge, June 2008, ISBN 978-0-8058-5927-0
    • City Kids, City Schools: More Reports from the Front Row, Ruby Dee (Foreword), Jeff Chang (Afterword), William Ayers (Editor), Billings, Gloria Ladson (Editor), Gregory Michie (Editor), Pedro Noguera (Editor), New Press, August 2008, ISBN 978-1-59558-338-3
    • To Teach: the journey, in comics, William Ayers and Ryan Alexander-Tanner, Jonathan Kozol(Foreword), Teachers College Press, 2010, ISBN 978-0-8077-5062-9
    • Public Enemy. Confessions of an American Dissident, Bill Ayers, Beacon Press, 2013, ISBN978-0-8070-3276-3

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    Alternative names Ayers, William Charles
    Short description American elementary education theorist and former 1960s anti-war activist
    Date of birth 1944-12-26
    Place of birth Glen Ellyn, Illinois
    Date of death
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    bump to get this $#@!ball rolling downhill

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    How do you suppose he funds his operation? He isn't bankrolled by government funds or taxpayer money.
    He could peddle actually legitimate products instead of quack bull$#@!.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    He could peddle actually legitimate products instead of quack bull$#@!.
    How is it quack bull$#@!, Count?
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  11. #39
    Decent products: water filters, those dude's survival kits maybe

    Deep earth rare mineral iodine? Dick pills? DNA repair pills? Kinda quacky stuff, but Alex does say that even his extreme stud horse self can only take 1/2 of a dick pill. Seems legit.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Coffman View Post
    *** Best Alex Jones Interview ever! *** - . Bill Ayers let Alex Jones make a fool of himself. Great Job Mr. Ayers. I love Alex but Good God Alex. Enough of the Hyped up Bull$#@! of passing on untrue information. Just because the main stream media says it, doesn't mean it's True. Even if it's about a perceived enemy. How convenient to pass the lie on knowingly or without checking if it benefits your Narrative or Agenda- http://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-debates-bill-ayers/

    -
    Would you still praise him and salute his intelligence if you found out that he was first "bundler" and associate of one of the most disgraced dronegangsta puppets in US history?

    “Bernadine and I had hosted the initial fundraiser for Obama and uncharacteristically donated a little money to his campaign” - Bill Ayers




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    I really don't know that much about Bill Ayers. I did listen to the Alex Jones interview. Alex did a crappy job, worst ever imo. However, Bill Ayers actually said a few things during the interview I agree with and he came across significantly different than the reputation that proceeded him. That may be because Alex didn't ask the right questions, kept interrupting his answers, and threw words in his mouth. Alex was quite juvenile and totally out of his league in the interview. The callers' questions were far more effective than Alex Jones.

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    I have never been a follower of AJ,, But he has broken several stories,


    (Yes. Alex broke the story of 'the UN and the Bilderbergers' feasting on babies roasted in gold foil'..and the russians launching nukes on y2k...where would society be without these important stories he broke?)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnIMdXVXimY

    ...seriously, Alex's whole stinking gig with Ayers could be summarized by his rude yosemite sammish interruptions:.. 'CMON, ADMIT IT AYERS!, YOU'RE A GUN-GRABBING PINKO COMMIE AND YOU KNOW IT!'

    Stinking Jones is Ruse Limbaugh 3.0..Glenn stinking Beck was Limbaugh 2.0..Jones is just another stinking Republican apologist...
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  16. #43
    Here's an Obomba-Ayres Timeline that Alex could have asked him about. Just Saying. Alex is in a very difficult position being the point of the spear. At times he must feel overwhelmed and alone. -


    "THE AYERS/OBAMA TIMELINE: (Version 2.0; a work in progress; dates are approximate)

    1981-1983 [William Ayers and Barack Obama meet at Columbia?]
    1987 William Ayers links up with Barack Obama in Chicago
    1988 Ayers solicits Khalid Al-Mansour to raise money for Obama’s Harvard law School education
    1989 Tom Ayers and William Ayers get Obama a summer job at Sidley & Austin (where he meets Michelle Obama); Ayers’ wife Bernadine Dohrn also worked at Sidley at about the same time as Barack and Michelle.
    1993 Ayers places Obama on Woods Foundation
    1995 Ayers makes Obama Chairman of Annenberg Challenge
    1995 Ayers hosts a coffee klatch for Obama’s political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers)
    2007-2008 The structure of Obama’s presidential campaign increasingly comes to resemble an Ayers-designed national “community organizer matrix” straight out of Maoist theory. This is not merely a presidential “campaign.” Obama’s organization is the first installment of an ongoing movement being paid for with tax-exempt contributions to his campaign, approaching half a billion dollars.
    2008 Obama In response to ABC News, Obama tells a national TV audience he was “six years old” when Ayers bombed federal buildings, and they are only casual neighborhood acquaintances.
    Last edited by Ralph Coffman; 01-23-2015 at 09:46 AM.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Coffman View Post
    Here's an Obomba-Ayres Timeline that Alex could have asked him about. Just Saying. Alex is in a very difficult position being the point of the spear. At times he must feel overwhelmed and alone. -

    "THE AYERS/OBAMA TIMELINE: (Version 2.0; a work in progress; dates are approximate)

    1981-1983 [William Ayers and Barack Obama meet at Columbia?]
    1987 William Ayers links up with Barack Obama in Chicago
    1988 Ayers solicits Khalid Al-Mansour to raise money for Obama’s Harvard law School education
    1989 Tom Ayers and William Ayers get Obama a summer job at Sidley & Austin (where he meets Michelle Obama); Ayers’ wife Bernadine Dohrn also worked at Sidley at about the same time as Barack and Michelle.
    1993 Ayers places Obama on Woods Foundation
    1995 Ayers makes Obama Chairman of Annenberg Challenge
    1995 Ayers hosts a coffee klatch for Obama’s political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers)
    2007-2008 The structure of Obama’s presidential campaign increasingly comes to resemble an Ayers-designed national “community organizer matrix” straight out of Maoist theory. This is not merely a presidential “campaign.” Obama’s organization is the first installment of an ongoing movement being paid for with tax-exempt contributions to his campaign, approaching half a billion dollars.
    2008 Obama In response to ABC News, Obama tells a national TV audience he was “six years old” when Ayers bombed federal buildings, and they are only casual neighborhood acquaintances.
    I would love to hear Ayers respond point by point to that timeline. Do you think he would deny and stonewall the same way he did with the stupid irrelevant questions that Alex asked him?

    I remember reading how Ayers without prompting likes to "joke" about being the author of Obama's book. I want to hear somebody ask him why the barely literate Obama used the word "ballast" 10+ or some such times in the book. Could it have been ghost written by another talented writer who was a former merchant seaman who had a tendency to spice up his work with lots of nautical terms and imagery?

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Coffman View Post
    When you finally get around to listening to Bill Ayers himself in his own words, you tell me what he says in this entire interview that you disagree with. I'd like to see it in writing for myself.
    He's a communist, that's all I care about, I don't need to tell you what I disagree with him on. Communists are evil and wrong and killed more people than US ever did. End of story. Alex Jones isn't a communist, so I'll trust him any day over a communist.
    pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Coffman View Post
    Here's an Obomba-Ayres Timeline that Alex could have asked him about. Just Saying. Alex is in a very difficult position being the point of the spear. At times he must feel overwhelmed and alone. -


    "THE AYERS/OBAMA TIMELINE: (Version 2.0; a work in progress; dates are approximate)

    1981-1983 [William Ayers and Barack Obama meet at Columbia?]
    1987 William Ayers links up with Barack Obama in Chicago
    1988 Ayers solicits Khalid Al-Mansour to raise money for Obama’s Harvard law School education
    1989 Tom Ayers and William Ayers get Obama a summer job at Sidley & Austin (where he meets Michelle Obama); Ayers’ wife Bernadine Dohrn also worked at Sidley at about the same time as Barack and Michelle.
    1993 Ayers places Obama on Woods Foundation
    1995 Ayers makes Obama Chairman of Annenberg Challenge
    1995 Ayers hosts a coffee klatch for Obama’s political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers)
    2007-2008 The structure of Obama’s presidential campaign increasingly comes to resemble an Ayers-designed national “community organizer matrix” straight out of Maoist theory. This is not merely a presidential “campaign.” Obama’s organization is the first installment of an ongoing movement being paid for with tax-exempt contributions to his campaign, approaching half a billion dollars.
    2008 Obama In response to ABC News, Obama tells a national TV audience he was “six years old” when Ayers bombed federal buildings, and they are only casual neighborhood acquaintances.
    Yeah, that would have been good. Alex Jones seemed like a junior attorney unprepared for a cross examination. He kept asking questions that Bill Ayers easily deflected and Alex had no decent follow up to pin Ayers down.
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    He's a communist, that's all I care about, I don't need to tell you what I disagree with him on. Communists are evil and wrong and killed more people than US ever did. End of story. Alex Jones isn't a communist, so I'll trust him any day over a communist.

    But you're a progressive liberal. All of your posts say so. You don't have anything in common with communists? Your posting history suggests otherwise.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    Would you still praise him and salute his intelligence if you found out that he was first "bundler" and associate of one of the most disgraced dronegangsta puppets in US history?

    “Bernadine and I had hosted the initial fundraiser for Obama and uncharacteristically donated a little money to his campaign” - Bill Ayers


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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    But you're a progressive liberal. All of your posts say so. You don't have anything in common with communists? Your posting history suggests otherwise.
    Give an example? And try not to claim a libertarian post I made is disingenious or pretend, actually show some evidences.
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    I am actually disappointed in Alex on this interview
    1) he said there are good and bad people in the Justice Dept
    2) he believes if a parent is raping their own child, somebody is right to stop them (Bill agreed with him, that's what makes him wrong)
    3) he keeps insisting Bill is a celebrity...wtf, is he so desperate for ratings?
    4) he says he's a feminist, WOW
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    Alex is twisted..In one breath he'll tell you how horrible and unconstitutional the laws/lawmakers are...then in the next breath he'll praise the pigs who enforce the unconstitutional will of these stinking Republicrats..

    ...in one breath he'll badmouth the Republicrats for foreign interventionism...then in the next breath, he'll kiss the arse of the US mercenaries ('soldiers') who eagerly sign-up to do the killing, 'intervening'..(back when people were drafted, i could see maybe 'supporting the troops' providing the murderous 'muscle' ...but now?!

    ...also he can't go an hour without lumping decent libertarians in with these stinking gd fool 'conservative' and 'Tea Party' Republicans...(HINT: NO HONEST LIBERTARIAN WILL SUPPORT THESE STINKING REPUBLICANS, esp. now that RON Paul is gone..

    ...Btw, I get a hoot out of fascist Republicrat monetary ignoramuses calling other Republicrat monetary ignoramuses 'communists'...
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    Quote Originally Posted by H. E. Panqui View Post
    Alex is twisted..then in the next breath he'll praise the pigs who enforce the unconstitutional will of these stinking Republicrats..

    ...then in the next breath, he'll kiss the arse of the US mercenaries ('soldiers') who eagerly sign-up to do the killing, 'intervening'..
    I've never heard that, do you think you can help me by citing one?


    ...also he can't go an hour without lumping decent libertarians in with these stinking gd fool 'conservative' and 'Tea Party' Republicans...

    ...Btw, I get a hoot out of fascist Republicrat monetary ignoramuses calling other Republicrat monetary ignoramuses 'communists'...
    he can't help but lump the 3 groups because Democrats are the common enemy
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    Originally Posted by H. E. Panqui
    Alex is twisted..then in the next breath he'll praise the pigs who enforce the unconstitutional will of these stinking Republicrats..

    ...then in the next breath, he'll kiss the arse of the US mercenaries ('soldiers') who eagerly sign-up to do the killing, 'intervening'..



    to which prb asks: I've never heard that, do you think you can help me by citing one?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIO8SPwdPLU "Police React to Police Brutality" (sorry...the hyper-link appears disabled..is it me?...i merely copied and pasted the youtube address..)

    ..scroll to 9:25.. Alex: "...there's (sic) a lot of good police out there..the problem is up above them the system is so corrupt that it wants them to only selectively enforce and get away with murder...



    ..(typical jones meme:...that the cops and soldiers, etc., are basically 'good people'...hint for dumbasses: ..'good people' don't/won't enforce, facilitate, etc., MUCH of ?your stinking Republicrat dictates...

    ..jones is a stinking Republican operative...he'll whine and moan at stinking glenn beck but come election day both these loud Republican shill$ will be $hilling for the same $tinking team/flavor..Republican..

    Many Republican cheerleaders that I know won't admit/acknowledge that stinking Rush Windbag is a Republican cheerleader...so I understand Jones drones not admitting stinking Jones is an "R" operative... ...

    PRB asserts: "he can't help but lump the 3 groups because Democrats are the common enemy"

    (?your stinking Republicans, too, are a 'common enemy' of people with common sense!)

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    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    I just started watching. So freaking funny. Bill Ayers pleading ignorance cracks me up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H. E. Panqui View Post
    Originally Posted by H. E. Panqui
    Alex is twisted..then in the next breath he'll praise the pigs who enforce the unconstitutional will of these stinking Republicrats..

    ...then in the next breath, he'll kiss the arse of the US mercenaries ('soldiers') who eagerly sign-up to do the killing, 'intervening'..



    to which prb asks: I've never heard that, do you think you can help me by citing one?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIO8SPwdPLU "Police React to Police Brutality" (sorry...the hyper-link appears disabled..is it me?...i merely copied and pasted the youtube address..)

    ..scroll to 9:25.. Alex: "...there's (sic) a lot of good police out there..the problem is up above them the system is so corrupt that it wants them to only selectively enforce and get away with murder...



    ..(typical jones meme:...that the cops and soldiers, etc., are basically 'good people'...hint for dumbasses: ..'good people' don't/won't enforce, facilitate, etc., MUCH of ?your stinking Republicrat dictates...

    ..jones is a stinking Republican operative...he'll whine and moan at stinking glenn beck but come election day both these loud Republican shill$ will be $hilling for the same $tinking team/flavor..Republican..

    Many Republican cheerleaders that I know won't admit/acknowledge that stinking Rush Windbag is a Republican cheerleader...so I understand Jones drones not admitting stinking Jones is an "R" operative... ...

    PRB asserts: "he can't help but lump the 3 groups because Democrats are the common enemy"

    (?your stinking Republicans, too, are a 'common enemy' of people with common sense!)



    So....you're against any action ever taken by any police officer? Or are you saying that because, inevitably, police officers will enforce something something unconstitutional.
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    I forgot to give this thread a one star rating. I usually save that for our paid posters TommyJeff/ZippyJuan/PRB/TheCount/Maybemaybenot, but I am adding the one star here.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    jm drake queries: So....you're against any action ever taken by any police officer? Or are you saying that because, inevitably, police officers will enforce something something unconstitutional.



    (i thought i was pretty clear but i'll rephrase: ...people who eagerly and voluntarily sign up to enforce the STINKING gd fool laws and undertake the miserable wars of these/?your stinking Republicrats are not to be praised...the best thing you can say about them in their defense is that they are/were young and gd foolish, terribly mistaken, etc., in their stinking career choices...

    ...and of course some government pigs will sometimes do some 'good'..same thing with government pig school teachers, etc. ad nauseam...but it seems 'the bad' far outweighs 'the good'..dig?
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    Quote Originally Posted by H. E. Panqui View Post
    jm drake queries: So....you're against any action ever taken by any police officer? Or are you saying that because, inevitably, police officers will enforce something something unconstitutional.



    (i thought i was pretty clear but i'll rephrase: ...people who eagerly and voluntarily sign up to enforce the STINKING gd fool laws and undertake the miserable wars of these/?your stinking Republicrats are not to be praised...the best thing you can say about them in their defense is that they are/were young and gd foolish, terribly mistaken, etc., in their stinking career choices...

    ...and of course some government pigs will sometimes do some 'good'..same thing with government pig school teachers, etc. ad nauseam...but it seems 'the bad' far outweighs 'the good'..dig?
    Yeah I "dig" but I believe someone could sign up for the police force thinking they were doing "good" and not being on the take or brutalizing people like some cops. Anyway we can "agree to disagre."
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    Yeah I "dig" but I believe someone could sign up for the police force thinking they were doing "good" and not being on the take or brutalizing people like some cops. Anyway we can "agree to disagre."



    (i too believe 'someone could sign up for the police force thinking they were doing good'...again, you appear to be apologizing for people who are: 1.) unconscious of their DIRECT, PHYSICAL, DEADLY, etc., participation in said gd twisted fool Republicrat directive$ or 2.) consciously participating in said gd twisted fool Republicrat directive$..

    ...the former might be pitied, but the latter are somewhat despicable, right?...pray tell, why not?.....WHY WOULD YOU PRAISE EITHER GROUP???

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