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Thread: Low Vaccines Rates Linked To Disneyland Measles Outbreak

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    Low Vaccines Rates Linked To Disneyland Measles Outbreak

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/tarahael...rld-after-all/

    Most people have heard by now that two dozen individuals who visited Disneyland between Dec. 15 and Dec. 20 have fallen ill with measles, which means they were almost certainly exposed to someone at the theme park with the disease. Measles is one of the most highly contagious diseases humans can catch. Ninety percent of people without immunity who are exposed to the disease will catch it – even if they visit a room two hours after the infected person has left.


    That level of infectiousness is particularly concerning considering how many children visit Disneyland who are too young to be vaccinated, such as this child, whose family may lose a month’s worth of wages even if their child never ends up developing measles. Two of the Disneyland cases were too young to be vaccinated – the first dose is recommended at 12 months – so those parents never had the choice to protect their children from measles. Other parents’ decisions not to vaccinate their children made that choice for them.


    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/edito...116-story.html

    What has kept this from becoming a nightmare scenario so far is the fact that most Americans still do the right thing; they continue to be vaccinated. That "herd immunity" of the vast majority protects the vulnerable — those too young to have been inoculated, or people with medical conditions that make vaccination-risky, as well as the few who receive the vaccine but don't derive immunity from it.


    But that protection is being eroded as the anti-vaccination movement grows, laying the groundwork for ongoing and bigger outbreaks — even though the risks associated with the vaccine are rarer than the risks associated with the illness. Getting vaccinated is good for the health of the inoculated person and also part of one's public responsibility to help protect the health of others.

    The prospect of a new measles epidemic is disturbing. So is the knowledge that many ill-informed people accept a thoroughly discredited and retracted study in the journal Lancet that purported to associate vaccination with autism, and that others mumble darkly about mercury in the inoculations. The kind of mercury that used to be in vaccines was ethylmercury, which is eliminated from the body quickly, not the truly dangerous methylmercury. In any case, the measles vaccine no longer contains it.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/disneyla...vaccine-trend/
    The fear is spreading beyond California. One victim traveled to the Seattle area for the holidays, flying there and back to California on two different airlines. The woman in her 20s is not vaccinated, and she is the latest example of a controversial trend.
    Health officials now say 26 cases of measles in four states have been linked to visits to the park in mid-December, reports CBS News correspondent Carter Evans. Of those infected, more than half were not vaccinated.
    "Around the world, we've seen big outbreaks of measles. ... There's more of a chance of the virus coming to us," said Dr. Matt Zahn, medical director of Orange County Health Care Agency. "The other issue that we know is that some communities are certainly seeing immunization rates drop and so there's a combination there of risk factors."
    Here in the U.S., measles infections have skyrocketed. More than 600 cases were reported last year, the highest number since 2000. The virus is highly contagious and can take up to 12 days to show up. Symptoms include cough, fever and a rash. The resurgence of this disease, once believed to have been eliminated, has doctors concerned.

    Congratulations to you anti-vax evangelicals - you wanted sick babies, you got sick babies. If you had consciences, you'd be ashamed.



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    The fear is spreading beyond California
    Oh boy some more fear porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    Oh boy some more fear porn.
    Like the Ebola that Dr. Paul warned us against?

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    Criminal aliens probably are not real careful about getting the shots for their kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Criminal aliens probably are not real careful about getting the shots for their kids.
    There was survey out there that showed that a lot of them are upper middle class liberals. It sort of goes along with their whole Utopian vision. "If we just wash our hands and hang out with people who are just like us, nothing bad can ever happen!"

    And of course part of it is the herd immunity - they believe that since the risk of measles is low that the risk of getting the vaccine is higher than that risk. Which is clearly and demonstrably wrong, but logic isn't a tool in their box. (We see that when arguing politics. People seem to NEED to believe the unbelievable rather than admit their own world view is skewed, to say the very least.)

    All I know is that if I was unknowingly spreading the measles around Disney and I found I might have infected babies, I'd feel bad. These people seem to think they are doing these kids a favor. It's some sort of a mental defect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    Oh boy some more fear porn.
    26 documented cases in 4 states. Because morons won't vaccinate their kids.

    I like how you clipped off the rest of the paragraph, about a female measles carrier that traveled across the country, on a couple of planes, while spreading her filth to other passengers. That isn't speculation - that actually happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    All I know is that if I was unknowingly spreading the measles around Disney and I found I might have infected babies, I'd feel bad. These people seem to think they are doing these kids a favor. It's some sort of a mental defect.
    Its too bad they haven't brought the "magicband" to Disneyland like they have at Disneyworld. if they did, I'd wager they could contact nearly every single person that rode the same rides/seats, ate at the same tables etc as the original infected person and let them know they are at risk.

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    Measles is GOOD for YOU?

    Update 1/13/15: There are now 26 cases of measles associated with the Disneyland outbreak. You can read about it here. I encourage you to read the comments, too. I will be following this story closely and will update as things develop.


    Original post:

    As the number of measles infections associated with the Disneyland outbreak increases, so does the panic and the disdain toward those parents who opt out of vaccination for their children.

    The first thing we all need to do is to take a deep breath and really look at what is happening now… and what happened in the past.

    As the Los Angeles Times reports, there are now 20 cases of measles that have been linked to Disneyland during the week before Christmas.

    Of the 20 cases reported on January 11th in the L.A. Times, 5 were in people who had been vaccinated against measles. So 25% of the cases have occurred in vaccinated individuals. What the L.A.Times article doesn’t tell you is that in previous years, most of the outbreaks of measles have involved people coming into the U.S. from other countries, where measles is endemic.

    Here is another article reporting on the outbreak at Disneyland; this one is from the U.K.

    Huh. Do you notice what I notice?

    The Los Angeles Times article blames the outbreak on unvaccinated children living in Southern California, but the Daily Mail article says foreign tourists are to blame.

    I personally believe it could be a combination of multiple factors, including the MMR vaccine. As this article explains, contrary to what most people may believe, vaccination with the MMR vaccine does not give lifelong immunity (even with two doses), and any immunity that may be conferred is gone within anywhere from 5-25 years. Vaccination also may cause some people to harbor the measles virus even in the absence of symptoms, and those people may be able to spread the measles to others. Have you ever heard of the concept of “shedding?” That’s what happens when you give a live virus vaccine to someone and the virus can infect other people who come in contact with the person who was vaccinated. Shedding has been proven to occur up to 37 days after someone is vaccinated. And this study investigated shedding of measles virus in the urine of vaccine-recipients. How many people at Disneyland go to the bathroom while they’re there?

    So… is it really the unvaccinated children in Southern California who are responsible for this outbreak? Think about it.

    Continued...
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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    LOS ANGELES —*California*health officials on Thursday confirmed 13 new measles cases connected to an outbreak at Disney theme parks last month, bringing the total number of illnesses to 39.
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