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    Supreme Court teen must undergo chemo

    Connecticut Supreme Court upholds ruling that teen must undergo chemo
    The Connecticut Supreme Court upheld a prior ruling Thursday that a 17-year-old cancer patient cannot refuse chemotherapy treatment for Hodgkin's lymphoma.

    The state argued that the teen lacked competency extended to maturity and that they did not believe she understood the severity of her prognosis. Her mother and her mother's lawyer said they expect to go back to trial court to more fully explore the mature minor argument.

    The teen, who is identified in court documents as “Cassandra C.,” but was identified by police as Cassandra Callender in a November missing persons report, was diagnosed with Hodgkin’s lymphoma in September. At the time, doctors at the Connecticut Children’s Medical Center (CCMC) recommended she receive chemotherapy.

    Cassandra ran away after two treatments in November and, with the support of her mother, refused any more when she returned. After the hospital reported Cassandra’s mother, Jackie Fortin, the Connecticut Department of Children and Families (DCF) took temporary custody of the teen, and her mother was ordered to cooperate with medical care administered under the agency’s supervision.

    The teen believes the chemotherapy will do more damage to her body than the cancer will, according to the Hartford Courant. Doctors have said the teen has an 80 to 85 percent chance of living -- with six months of chemotherapy treatment, according to Fox News’ legal analyst Peter Johnson Jr.

    Video and more at link
    http://www.foxnews.com/health/2015/0...undergo-chemo/



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    Mods please move this if appropriate. I am not sure why this is not front page.

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    Wow. I don't even know what to say about this. I had just mentioned this phenomenon over in one of the vaccination threads. Gosh. Do the people have to maybe seek another Nuremberg trial type scenario to remove these tyrannical people from power or what? How does the government force someone to partake in being a guinea pig for the pharmaceutical industry by way of the Supreme Court? And, then, you don't even have any legal way to retort because they rigged it so that you can't sue them either.
    Last edited by Natural Citizen; 01-09-2015 at 08:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Mods please move this if appropriate. I am not sure why this is not front page.
    It'll get lost on the front page anyhow, for whatever reason. Once something is added to the front page, it won't be returned in any future forum search specific to the givin issue or key word. Is scwewy. I actually prefer when my stuff doesn't get shared there. It is much easier for me to follow-up with any updates relative to the given subject should they occur if I'm able to find them via forum search.

    And that is something else that needs a fixin' now that I think about it.
    Last edited by Natural Citizen; 01-09-2015 at 08:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    The teen believes the chemotherapy will do more damage to her body than the cancer will, according to the Hartford Courant. Doctors have said the teen has an 80 to 85 percent chance of living
    Half empty there's a 20% chance the chemo will kill her.


    Iiiiaght now what we gonna do is...






    No thanks I'll just die thank you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    Half empty there's a 20% chance the chemo will kill her.
    But they're only premising debate with regard to her health upon chemo. Nothing at all is mentioned with regard to the validity of other treatment. This is growth versus survival 101. Period. Killing your competition by way of government and the courts.

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    She could probably eat a few peach pits and shake it off.

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


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    You must take this medication!

    You have no other choice. No we will not send you to prison. You must take this medication. No you cannot die. You must take this medication!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    You must take this medication!

    You have no other choice. No we will not send you to prison. You must take this medication. No you cannot die. You must take this medication!
    I shared your thread in another thread where the op was, seemingly (more likely, probably), trying to create a similar paradigm. It just happened to be relevant to one of my postings in that thread.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post5750009
    Last edited by Natural Citizen; 01-09-2015 at 11:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Connecticut Supreme Court upholds ruling that teen must undergo chemo
    The Connecticut Supreme Court upheld a prior ruling Thursday that a 17-year-old cancer patient cannot refuse chemotherapy treatment for Hodgkin's lymphoma.

    The state argued that the teen lacked competency extended to maturity and that they did not believe she understood the severity of her prognosis. Her mother and her mother's lawyer said they expect to go back to trial court to more fully explore the mature minor argument.

    The teen, who is identified in court documents as “Cassandra C.,” but was identified by police as Cassandra Callender in a November missing persons report, was diagnosed with Hodgkin’s lymphoma in September. At the time, doctors at the Connecticut Children’s Medical Center (CCMC) recommended she receive chemotherapy.

    Cassandra ran away after two treatments in November and, with the support of her mother, refused any more when she returned. After the hospital reported Cassandra’s mother, Jackie Fortin, the Connecticut Department of Children and Families (DCF) took temporary custody of the teen, and her mother was ordered to cooperate with medical care administered under the agency’s supervision.

    The teen believes the chemotherapy will do more damage to her body than the cancer will, according to the Hartford Courant. Doctors have said the teen has an 80 to 85 percent chance of living -- with six months of chemotherapy treatment, according to Fox News’ legal analyst Peter Johnson Jr.

    Video and more at link
    http://www.foxnews.com/health/2015/0...undergo-chemo/

    Can the parents not send her out of state, or is she in custody?
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    This is such an outrage! Had she killed someone, she would be on trial as an adult--yet she cannot make her own decisions on her health!
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    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
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    A 17 yo girl can walk into an abortuary and make a choice about her own body, but she can't walk out of a hospital after making a choice about her own body. Go figure.
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