This is fake
-too coward to show their faces
-much less blow themselves up
-shouting Allahu Akbar doesn't make you a terrorist or even Muslim
-didn't credit a parent organization or cause
pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..
No, they just have greater Muslim population. As far as multiculturalism, America leads it.Originally Posted by puppetmaster
pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..
-not uncommon
-they aren't done yet
-true, but it doesn't make it fake
-they did; al qaeda in yemen. this is blowback in it's purest form
If this was a false flag, it was for OUR side! It made martyrs of free speech and expression advocates and highlighted unintended consequences of western imperialism.
The more prohibitions you have,
the less virtuous people will be.
The more weapons you have,
the less secure people will be.
The more subsidies you have,
the less self-reliant people will be.
Therefore the Master says:
I let go of the law,
and people become honest.
I let go of economics,
and people become prosperous.
I let go of religion,
and people become serene.
I let go of all desire for the common good,
and the good becomes common as grass.
-Tao Te Ching, Section 57
They know who did this. Names, ages. 2 are brothers.
Suspect they will be captured or killed soon.
-t
just like how they quickly captured the Boston brothers, too easy = staged.
pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..
Except people in France and over the world will not care about the details. they just want retaliation and free speech.
the only time false flags can be 'for our side' is if martyrs were killed by government and military.
pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..
Retaliation against those who did this (the 3 shooters and any who directly helped plan or fund the attack) is perfectly reasonable.
The victims in this attack risked their lives to stand up to intolerance, both in the muslim world and in their own government. They were persecuted by both, prosecuted by the latter, and murdered by the former. There is blood on a lot of people's hands today.
You consider that operation quick and easy? I thought it was a massive sprawling dragnet that paralyzed a city and got a cop and a suspect killed. Hmm.
The more prohibitions you have,
the less virtuous people will be.
The more weapons you have,
the less secure people will be.
The more subsidies you have,
the less self-reliant people will be.
Therefore the Master says:
I let go of the law,
and people become honest.
I let go of economics,
and people become prosperous.
I let go of religion,
and people become serene.
I let go of all desire for the common good,
and the good becomes common as grass.
-Tao Te Ching, Section 57
Hah Hah, well, that didn't take long... all according to plan.
Bloomberg reports, South Carolina US Senator Lindsay Graham:
"Cutting Intelligence Budget is Insane"
Senator points to Paris attack on need to keep spending
Says attacks can only be thwarted with intelligence
'Get Them before they Get You'
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Rick Santorum,No mention by Halperin or Heilemann on Rich Santorum's Felony fraud/wire fraud in milking $10,000s in rural education subsidies, or that Santorum lobbyist past or the newly funded propaganda and elitist establishment 501c3:"Having an active intelligence in your community to findout what's happening. I believe in freedom of religion, you'll find no one stronger about freedom of religion than I, but every freedom has limits" "We need to have that information(NSA/.Gov spying) and we need to act on that information. Finally, we have to good to the breeding grounds, like ISIS and destroy it where it is. I think the president has not taken the battle to ISIS or very seriously. If you look at the number strikes that are occuring, quote to defeat ISIS, it's a 'Drip, Drip', not an effort to defeat the enemy. That sends another message that we are not serious about confronting this problem"
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This one doesn't strike me as fake, though not enough info and video to dissect yet. The 'car bomb' pic is definitely questionable though. Looks more like a car was just set on fire and a picture taken of it. Little to no debris indicating an explosion around the car.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
...but this proves the Mossad had nothing to with the killings? Don't ya' get it. Gee whiz.
MOAR!"Cutting Intelligence Budget is Insane"
Senator points to Paris attack on need to keep spending
MOAR!Says attacks can only be thwarted with intelligence
MOAR!!!'Get Them before they Get You'
This has nothing to do with multiculturalism. This is just another act of blowback.
Blah, Blah, Blah.
I don't know, it's getting really hard to see Islam as something of value.
Multiculturalism by the way only works, when you give the pot time to simmer in the new bits. Constantly adding uncooked bits, then serving it out like it's been properly cooked(integrated), makes for a bad and possibly deadly dinner.
Immigration should be a very low percentage of the population every year like sub 1%.
Anyway, Europe is even more of a mess than the U. S.
Dunno about all that. I do get a sense this was a real event. The drills are pretty much an American thing.
Who perpetrated and for what reason though? I wouldn't put it past Mossad to do it as a false flag, considering the recent developments with France supporting Palestinian statehood in the UN.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...emium-1.634733
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
To be fair, since Lavon Affair bombings that were aimed to frame Islamists, no false flag bombings by Mosad have been in media news.
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Delta variant, death of 9 Chinese engineers in terror attack led to airport chaos & quick Kabul fall?
The Nordic countries are worse, but France is pretty bad with the forced multiculturalism.
I was thinking that too. She may not win the election, but FN just became a whole lot more viable.
Oh it does, when you let radical Islamists into your country, then turn around and bomb Islamic countries things like this happen. Can't have it both ways.
Unknown at this time, but reviewing all the videos and information provided from most sources, this was a professional hit, very pro organized crime or government type op. Double masked gunmen, new footwear, special weapons, stolen vehicles, then the bazaar social media postings, etc...
The only thing that leaves this with open questions, the gunmen didn't burn that getaway car they left behind, the one they departed the scene in, but it's unknown if they made it DNA proof(covered the inside) or bleached the vehicle prior to switching transportation to kill any DNA residual or maybe... they intentionally left DNA residual they want the forensic team to find. We shall see how this plays out and where the links are communicated on the technical forensic results.
PS: There's 5 million Muslims in France
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Nah, this one is real, like the many others being done in Syria, Iraq, on and on and on.
It is time that the citizenry, including those who call themselves Muslims, to wake up. I wonder if this is the time that Europe will say enough is enough.
We mustn't forget that the goal of the jihadist (which was the goal for Muhammed, and those who follow him) is to establish the entire world under Islamic rule. The sly and purely evil tactics these followers of Muhammed have done today is the very evangelism of Islam. These terrorists are Islamic apostles. And it is through fear, intimidation, and decapitating ruthlessness that they convert a nation. The same methods they use on their own nations under Sharia Law.
Islam is not a religion of peace but of the sword. And the current MO for these jihadist (whether a recent innovation or the same old playbook used for a long time) is for the enemy nations to react and create more restive laws, to become more authoritative, to remove the liberties and freedoms of the infidels, (and essentially put the dirty work on the enemy governments and foreign rulers) so that when the time is right (which may take years or decades or even centuries), the followers of Muhammed might establish Islamic rule over their communities in order to convert the entire world.
Through fear, intimidation, and the power of numbers through mass breeding, the preparation for the establishment of a world Caliphate has been pursued by the most strict and loyal followers of Muhammed, those who represent truly Muhammed's image and likenessness. The true Muslims I mean, and not the modern day moderates (at least, outward acting moderates) who out of loyalty and fear stay silent because they are too afraid to speak out about this age old tradition of Islamic evengelism. A tradition which is not in contradiction to the founder of the religion (as it was with the Crusades), but exactly in accordance to it's founder's exhortation and example - through subjugation, tyranny, and fear.
Hopefully the so called 'moderate' Muslims will come to see the lie of Muhammed and the evil of Muhammadism, and eventually come to Christ, the risen Sun of Righteousness and Light, Who floods away through brilliance the crescent moon and reveals the glory of God.
Or at least they can become so moderate as to become nominal and actually apostate in heart. The more Muslims who convert to Christianity (or even to secularism), the more peace there will be in this world. Of this, I have no doubt.
Just as these brave Islamic warrior jihadist have evangelized today, likewise we must become warriors for Christ and proclaim the gospel of Christ to them, in our conversations and in our meetings and our willingness to die for Christ. Not with automatic assault rifles. Not with RPGs, or drones. But in proclaiming that we will not give up our God-given liberties, nor our faith, so as to live under the teachings of Muhammad.
+'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ
RPI Chairman Ron Paul takes a different look at the recent attack in Paris. Is it not a form of blowback for France's enthusiastic interventionism in the Middle East? Watch the interview at the link:
Ron Paul: Paris Attack 'Obscene,' But Blowback for French Interventionism
RPI Chairman Ron Paul was on NewsMax today to discuss the attack on a Paris-based satirical magazine that left 12 people dead. The attackers are said to be radical Islamists who objected to the magazine's vulgar depictions of their faith and of Muhammad, Islam's prophet.
Dr. Paul made it clear that libertarians reject all such initiation of force, which he described as "obscene," but he also pointed out that these kinds of attacks do not happen in a vacuum. Said Dr. Paul:
France has been a target for many, many years, because they’ve been involved in foreign affairs in Libya, and they really prodded us along in — recently in Libya, but they’ve been involved in Algeria, so they’ve had attacks like this, you know, not infrequently. So, it does involve, you know, their foreign policy as well.
Dr. Paul made the point that Western countries, including France, have been engaged in aggressive and interventionist policies in the Middle East that have left hundreds of thousands of people dead, while often supporting dictators and arming radicals. These policies have consequences. He said:
It’s that overall policy which invites retaliation, and they see us as intruders. But it’s a little bit more complex, you know, when they hit us, either here at home, and hit civilians, and what’s happening in France. But I don’t think you can divorce these instances from the overall foreign policy.
Watch the interview:
Most likely this was another instance of terrorism organized by the international criminal banking cartel in order to justify increased spending on weapons and more warfare in the middle east by creating a wave of anti-Islam indignation in the west.
So...basically the exact same thing that's been going on non-stop since 9/11 which WAS a false flag operation.
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Ron Paul has officially lost it. WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM?! He used to be so insightful and intelligent...now he sounds like Grandpa Simpson escaping from his retirement home.
They haven't had free speech for quite some time.
Paris Attack Suspect Dead, Two in Custody, U.S. Officials Say
One of the suspects in the Paris attack on Charlie Hebdo magazine has been killed and the two others are in custody, two senior U.S. counterterrorism officials told NBC News on Wednesday.
Authorities earlier had identified the three men as Said Kouachi and Cherif Kouachi, both French and in their early 30s, and Hamyd Mourad, 18. It couldn't immediately be determined which of the suspects was killed or whether the two others were wounded.
An official who spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to publicly discuss the investigation told The Associated Press that the men were linked to a Yemeni terrorist network. Cherif Kouachi was convicted in 2008 of terrorism charges for helping funnel fighters to Iraq's insurgency and sentenced to 18 months in prison.
Twelve people were killed in the attack by gunmen, armed with AK-47s, who attacked the offices of Charlie Hebdo, a publication that has enraged Muslims for publishing cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad.
A source familiar with the investigation told NBC News on Wednesday night that two officers who had been assigned to protect Charbonnier for the past several years came down from an upper floor and intercepted the gunmen. Both officers were shot, however, and one died at the scene. The other was wounded and is expected to survive.
The men targeted those magazine employees who had created or published cartoons showing Muhammad — asking for their victims by name, the source said. They executed editor and cartoonist Stephane Charbonnier, popularly known as Charb; Bernard Maris, a Bank of France economist who was a columnist for the magazine; and three cartoonists.
Outside the building, as the gunmen tried to flee in their Citroën van, three officers in a police patrol car intercepted them. Two suspects got out of the van, and one fired repeatedly into the windshield of the patrol car.
The source said the patrol car driver slammed the car into reverse, while another officer in the car returned fire at the shooter. The patrol car driver then hit the brakes, allowing an officer in the back seat to jump out and run toward the suspects. But the officer was shot and wounded by the suspects. He was executed with a shot to the head as he lay on the sidewalk.
After killing the officer, the gunmen returned to their car, shouting, "We avenged the Prophet Muhammad," the source said.
Eleven other people were injured, four of them critically, officials said.
Because the masked, black-clad gunmen attacked with militaristic precision and left the scene with shouts of "Allahu Akbar," the killers were suspected to be well-trained Islamic extremists.
Little information was immediately available about Mourad and Said Kouachi, but Cherif Kouachi has been suspected of involvement in terrorist groups for at least a decade. In January 2005, he and another French national were arrested in Paris as they were planning to fly to Iraq via Syria. Kouachi was described at the time as one of two deputies to the leader of an operation to send young volunteers to Iraq to fight U.S.-led forces.
Authorities linked the operation to the 19th Arrondissement Network, named for the Paris district where it was based, which is home to many Muslim families with roots in France's former North African colonies. Kouachi was convicted in 2008 and sentenced to three years in prison, 18 months of which were suspended.
The Associated Press quoted Cherif Kouachi in 2008 as saying he'd been motivated by outrage at images of torture of Iraqi inmates at the U.S. prison at Abu Ghraib. "I really believed in the idea," it quoted him as saying.
While authorities hunted the suspects Wednesday, shock and mourning spread across Paris and the rest of France, a country with an estimated 5 million Muslims.
France has a long, troubled relationship with its Arab immigrants and a more recent history of unrest among young native-born Muslims. There has been growing concern about young men and women returning to France after joining jihadist activity in the Middle East.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/par...ls-say-n281761
Americans kill far more Muslims than Muslims killing Americans, and Americans are Christian and or Secular for the most part.
And your statement is religious idiocy at it's best. Cuz yer god is the true god, right?
LoLHopefully the so called 'moderate' Muslims will come to see the lie of Muhammed and the evil of Muhammadism, and eventually come to Christ, the risen Sun of Righteousness and Light, Who floods away through brilliance the crescent moon and reveals the glory of God.
Who is this guy? I've never seen him post before. He must hang out in the religion forum and argue about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin or something. But really, this dude is hilarious.
Last edited by UWDude; 01-07-2015 at 07:32 PM.
Christianity is often a religion of the sword as well, spread by enthusiastic supporters who conquered other civilizations and commanded that non-believers comply or die, often through gruesome methods. Currently a majority of self proclaimed Christians support torture as opposed to a majority of non-religious folks who oppose torture. Christians need to worry about their own identity and shortcomings rather than proclaiming how if everyone just converts to Christianity then peace will occur because it is always the other religions causing all the problems.
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When you are in doubt, be still, and wait;
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So long as mists envelop you, be still;
be still until the sunlight pours through and dispels the mists
-- as it surely will.
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We have different definition of the word 'Christian'. We both however will agree that those who kill in cold blood because of a cartoon are evil (or perhaps you will give an apology for that as well?). Those who do those things these jihadists did today and call themselves Christians are in fact LIARS. And even the most nominal Christian or atheist (or founder of their own religion as many are in this forum and outside of it) can see how such an act is anti- Jesus Christ.
What they won't say is that these tactics and acts by the Muslim are anti-Muhammed. They are indeed the fruit of his works, and should be called out so. These were very good Muslims today doing what is called for by the Law of Islam.
+'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ
If they had not arrested the guy for wanting to go off and fight in Iraq, there is a pretty good chance he would never have survived long enough to shoot up this magazine.
-rep
message: I have been here since the beginning and this is the second neg rep I have ever sent.
-t
Someone would have taken his place today to please the Prophet. At least in Syria and Iraq he could rape young girls and behead Christians to avenge the Prophet and give glory to Allah.
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+'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ
Did you see the reason given for his motivation for going, and for trying to find fighters to go?
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