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    How to find a feminist boyfriend

    From a future cat lady......

    How to find a feminist boyfriend



    By Lisa Bonos January 2
    Lisa Bonos is Outlook’s assistant editor. Follow her on Twitter: @lisabonos.
    ‘I find it really attractive how successful you are,” my date said, leaning in for a kiss.

    Sure, it sounds like a line. But it also sounds like feminism. It certainly made him more appealing than the guy who said, “Wow, you’re really ambitious,” like he was surprised. Or the one who asked, “Why do you work so much?” and “Why would you want to work even more?” when I was angling for a promotion.

    It didn’t work out with any of those men, but going out with them made it all the more obvious to me what I want a partner to be: cute, smart, funny and . . . yes, feminist. So go ahead, alert Susan Patton, Lori Gottlieb and the rest of the get-married-already crowd: A 30-something single woman, eggs unfrozen, is telling other single women that they should dare to want it all if they ever hope to have it all.

    But how do you spot a male feminist if he’s not at an abortion rights rally wearing a “This Is What a Feminist Looks Like” T-shirt?


    (Johanna Goodman for The Washington Post)
    It shouldn’t be hard. After all, as Aziz Ansari said on David Letterman’s show recently, everyone’s a feminist now. Unless you think Beyonce shouldn’t have the right to vote, should earn 23 percent less than Jay-Z and should be at home cooking rather than performing. And who would think that?

    Few guys will proudly say no when asked if they’re feminists. Instead it’s a wholehearted yes, a lukewarm maybe or Can you define what you mean by “feminist,” please? As one 32-year-old put it to The Washington Post Magazine last month: “I respect the movement. I’m hesitant to call myself a feminist, but I guess I wouldn’t shy away from the term.”

    In other words: Do we have to put a label on it?

    The label isn’t everything; living it is more important than saying it. But it’s a good place to start.

    Define what you’re looking for.

    Is he a feminist if he proclaims, on a first date, that he could see himself taking his wife’s last name? (Maybe his own name is pretty generic.) If he insists on doing the dishes after you’ve cooked dinner together but proceeds to whip the dish towel at your ass, is that playful or objectifying? (Both.) Is he sexist if he cancels an Uber ride because a female driver is on her way to pick the two of you up? (Definitely.)

    Does he need to believe that men and women, are equals and should be treated as such? (Uh, yes.) Does he need to be actively fighting for social, political and economic justice for women — and for all people, really — to identify as a feminist? (Not necessarily. But if he’s doing that, great.)


    Here’s how I’m defining it: Feminist daters — male or female, gay or straight — aren’t constrained by gender roles. Anyone can do the asking-out, the feelings-confessing or the initiating of any kind. (As for who picks up the check on a first date, let’s obliterate the gender pay gap first, then put that one back up for debate.)

    Of course, way too many guys think they’re feminists but don’t live up to it. A true male feminist is supportive of, interested in and enthusiastic about his partner’s career. He might not expect to earn more than his partner or think that his career trumps hers; a feminist couple might relocate for the woman’s career. Things are moving in this direction: A 2014 study by the moving company Mayflower found that 72 percent of millennials would move for a female spouse’s job, compared with 59 percent of baby boomers.

    it continues.... http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...cd7_story.html
    "The Patriarch"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    From a future cat lady......

    How to find a feminist boyfriend
    Wow, you love each other
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Wow, you love each other
    Lol.

    Not that kind of cat lady....
    "The Patriarch"

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    Pretty tough, because most of those guys already are or have boyfriends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Lol.

    Not that kind of cat lady....
    Are you up for adoption?
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




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    This thread smells like stale feline urine.

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


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    ‘I find it really attractive how successful you are,” my date said, leaning in for a kiss.
    Sure, it sounds like a line. But it also sounds like feminism.
    Sounds to me like some player that just found himself a mark and looks forward to staying home playing xbox and "looking for a job" while she brings home the bacon.



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    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    Isn't that what Larry Sinclair said?

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    wait I think I found a real one!


    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


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    Another...


    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


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    So basically, she's looking for a homosexual boyfriend.

    Good luck with that.
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    I don't even think the 19th amendment should have been passed. Nowhere near feminist (though I'd make an exception for all the women at RPF if I could, "mom culture" in politics isn't a good thing.)
    This post represents only the opinions of Christian Liberty and not the rest of the forum. Use discretion when reading

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    I see Blue Boy changed its name.
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    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.



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    (As for who picks up the check on a first date, let’s obliterate the gender pay gap first, then put that one back up for debate.)
    so....free food even if the dude makes less? Because ummm...sexism?
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    so....free food even if the dude makes less? Because ummm...sexism?
    Yeah, that was the part that stood out to me. She probably makes 3x what he makes but he still has to pay for the date because, well, he's male.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    Yeah, that was the part that stood out to me. She probably makes 3x what he makes but he still has to pay for the date because, well, he's male.
    Isn't it sexist to assume you make more money than her?
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    Isn't it sexist to assume you make more money than her?
    Clearly Gunny's not feminist boyfriend material. I bet he mansplains and manspreads too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    so....free food even if the dude makes less? Because ummm...sexism?
    The ever-present myth of the "gender pay gap."
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    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    Isn't it sexist to assume you make more money than her?
    LOL of course I assume no such thing. At this particular moment in fact I am making less than a McBurger Flipper. Self employment does flood and drought alternately.



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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    Yeah, that was the part that stood out to me. She probably makes 3x what he makes but he still has to pay for the date because, well, he's male.
    I thought it was because he's making the down-payment for the sex at the end of the date.

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    Not front page????
    "The Patriarch"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Not front page????
    Shocking!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Clearly Gunny's not feminist boyfriend material. I bet he mansplains and manspreads too.
    Honestly I had heard the term 'mansplain' but not 'manspread' and I had to look both of them up. It's true that I get condescending from time to time, but I tend to condescend to stupidity. The gender of that stupidity is basically irrelevant. As to 'manspread,' I'm finding the whole concept absurd. People are upset that men sit with their legs spread out? Really? With women wearing clothes that are basically painted on, where all you have to do is imagine their clothes skin-toned and you would swear they were nude, and they are going to get creeped out because a man's knees aren't touching? Seriously WTF?

    Also, back in the 80's books advising on body language actually advised that when the space was available, take up as much space as you can, and you will be subliminally seen as 'better' and therefore you get the promotions, the project leads etc etc. Sit with your arms all wide and your legs all spread kinda like a cat puffs itself up to look bigger before a fight. It's stupid as all hell but it works. In 2004 when I decided to give it a shot, within 6 weeks I went from production lackey to shift manager at the Kinkos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    Honestly I had heard the term 'mansplain' but not 'manspread' and I had to look both of them up. It's true that I get condescending from time to time, but I tend to condescend to stupidity. The gender of that stupidity is basically irrelevant. As to 'manspread,' I'm finding the whole concept absurd. People are upset that men sit with their legs spread out? Really? With women wearing clothes that are basically painted on, where all you have to do is imagine their clothes skin-toned and you would swear they were nude, and they are going to get creeped out because a man's knees aren't touching? Seriously WTF?

    Also, back in the 80's books advising on body language actually advised that when the space was available, take up as much space as you can, and you will be subliminally seen as 'better' and therefore you get the promotions, the project leads etc etc. Sit with your arms all wide and your legs all spread kinda like a cat puffs itself up to look bigger before a fight. It's stupid as all hell but it works. In 2004 when I decided to give it a shot, within 6 weeks I went from production lackey to shift manager at the Kinkos.
    Damn, you got a promotion. Maybe I need to start manspreading.

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    Pfft. Gunny can go stuff it. I'm the lead fry cook at the MacDonald's.

    What a braggart.
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