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    It Begins- Massachusetts Man To Be Charged Over Four Word Facebook Post

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/beg...9thBWRuZRO3.99

    Chicopee, MA– Emotions are running high and police across the nation are on high alert after the killing of two NYPD officers on Saturday afternoon.

    Emotions are also running high with the huge portion of Americans who have been watching police kill and brutalize with impunity, and of course people have taken to social media to vent their frustrations, hurt, and anger.

    Sometimes, people express themselves in a strong way, so in this age of Orwellian spying and rights disappearing before our eyes- how far is too far? Where does freedom of speech end and when does venting become a threat to commit a crime?

    As Charlie Dirosa has just learned, for the Chicopee Police Department all it took was a quote.



    Dirosa did not say “I am going to put wings on pigs,” “Please friends, go put wings on pigs,” or even “All I want for Christmas is wings on pigs.” He simply quoted the now infamous caption from the NYPD killer’s instagram.

    Chicopee police is comparing the post to yelling fire in a crowded theater and claiming the post “scared a lot of the guys.”

    The police have filed a criminal complaint and Dirosa will have to appear in court for “threatening to commit a crime.”

    Back in August a man was arrested and jailed for more than a week when he posted the lyrics to a song by the metal band Exodus on his Facebook profile. He was charged with making terroristic threats which could have lead him to a decade in prison.

    “When we start to overreact to things like lyrics by any band, including Exodus, and start arresting people, we are caving in to paranoia and are well on our way to becoming an Orwellian society.” the bands guitar player, Gary Holt stated.

    The ACLU quickly jumped on the case and argued that his post was protected by the First Amendment, leading to charges being dropped.

    So, where do we draw the line? We all say things we don’t necessarily mean, or things we wouldn’t do. When is trolling or venting actually a credible threat?

    I can’t even count the amount of times I have said Michael Bay should be shot for butchering the Texas Chainsaw Massacre with his awful remake, but do I actually want him shot? No, well, not fatally at least (kidding). Would I shoot him or suggest someone shoot him? Nope, of course not.

    The First Amendment is important, it was left vague for our protection- not the government’s, and this is a very slippery slope we are definitely sliding on with this selective enforcement.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 12-23-2014 at 09:10 AM.
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    what would happen if you replaced 'pigs' with lawyers?...

    seems its ok to make 'lawyer' jokes..

    example: what do you call 50 lawyers on a sinking boat?...

    these are 'old' style jokes. I heard that one when i was 10 years old..

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    "Police guarantee the right of free expression to everyone, even to people who obviously do not appreciate the risk and sacrifice we make for them." - Patrick Lynch - President NYC Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association

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    Lynch is ONE reason of whats wrong with cops. Their Unions.

    Dirosa has a case. He will win a few bucks on this.

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    Chicopee police is comparing the post to yelling fire in a crowded theater and claiming the post “scared a lot of the guys.”
    Is there any way to get "Wings on Pigs" printed onto 'Depends' adult diapers and send these guys a box?

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    Hopefully this scares potential Thought Criminals straight. T'would be a darn shame if cops had to wet their pants whenever someone posts something sorta-kinda scary on teh interwebz.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
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    so this is acceptable:

    And yet Dirosa goes to court for the shouting fire theory because it scared some whittle powice awficers? Poor little things! They shall reap what they sow. Just keep letting the courts protect them as the special class they fathom themselves to be. All they are doing with this just-us system is inciting more blowback.
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    IF pigs could fly.
    Pfizer Macht Frei!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    IF pigs could fly.

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    Police abuse will stop "When Pigs Fly." <----idiom


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    I cannot know his motive or intent, but using " " quotations wouldn't hold any legal ground for probable cause ,from a technical stand point because its inside of " " quotation marks meaning it is not his expression, but simply quotation. Would a jury go as far as to determine whether he was using sarcasm, or mockingly serious? Who knows...at this point I think the nation is prepared to accept thought crimes, and that is a bigger danger . If "kill the pigs" was as big as a threat to the nation as the media promotes it to be, then there would be a war in the streets and millions of people would be killing eachother already, but thats not true, humans still have a gravitation towards not being excruciatingly violent without reasoning in america. I will have to say that as distasteful as a statement it is, he shouldn't be convicted .

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    Oh and by the way , John Lennon would have been arrested for "I am the Walrus"..he wrote a song with these exact lyrics: "I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together
    See how they run like pigs from a gun, see how they fly
    I'm crying.Mister City, policeman sitting
    Pretty little policemen in a row
    See how they fly like Lucy in the Sky, see how they run
    I'm crying, I'm crying
    I'm crying, I'm crying" Beatles song that had lots of subliminal lyrics about police

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    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    Police abuse will stop "When Pigs Fly." <----idiom


    Note: pro cop I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    why are you such an idiot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica View Post
    why are you such an idiot?
    OK, I'll bite, why..er how am I an "idiot?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica View Post
    why are you such an idiot?
    danke is a lot of things (some good, others not so much), but he is no idiot.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
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    For all of you who missed the all day Copathon on television yesterday, they spent a good portion of the day dedicated to "see something, say something". Especially the Marxist Mayor of New York. If someone posts something remotely threatening or suspicious, call the Police immediately, comrades.

    It was a bit ironic when a reporter asked one of the Police officials, "but the shooter was reported as soon as they posted the threatening messages". A good politician always has the answer for that kind of question: "sure, but you need to give us more money, more technology, more laws and more people". It won't help, but never let a good tragedy go to waste!
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    “This is America. We can say what we want. This is a free America.”

    LAPD Officer Joe Myers

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    "Put wings on Pigs."

    $#@! ALL.

    I am not violent and do not advocate violence. I advocate freedom of speech here.
    "I know the urge to arm yourself, because that’s what I did. I was trained in firearms. When I walked to the hospital when my husband was sick, I carried a concealed weapon. I made the determination that if somebody was going to try to take me out I was going to take them with me."

    Diane Feinstein, 1995

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    War is inevitable.
    “One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).

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    I bet winged pigs will be a popular costume next Halloween.

    -t



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