Anyone else think Obama is an okay president?

[brandon]

I can't say I'm a fan of him, but compared to W he's a lot less scary. I find myself agreeing with him more often then not when it comes to anything other than economic policy. I imagine the country would be in a much worse place if any Republican won, other than Paul, in either of the past elections. Thoughts? Am I alone here?

[specsaregood]

Keep in mind that he only had a democrat-controlled house for 2 years out of his entire term.

[Indy Vidual]

Obama cares about you.

[HVACTech]

is this a comparative or a relative analysis?

[ZENemy]

Puppets

[HVACTech]

Obama cares about you.

[BV2]

Absolutely not. Just another psychopath.

[oyarde]

I can't say I'm a fan of him, but compared to W he's a lot less scary. I find myself agreeing with him more often then not when it comes to anything other than economic policy. I imagine the country would be in a much worse place if any Republican won, other than Paul, in either of the past elections. Thoughts? Am I alone here?

Uh , No , I do not think these $#@!ers are OK , not even close .

[emazur]

Under Obama you got Obamacare, under Bush you got Bushcare (Medicaid D). Which is worse? I'd have to run the numbers, one of them being how much each contributes to the national debt. Did payroll tax go up as a result of Bushcare, and if so - how much? If no increase, Bush gets the upper hand because you are forced to buy insurance or pay the penalty under Obamacare. But at least there was a temporary payroll tax holiday under Obama

Debt - Obama has added more to the debt than Bush. Advantage: Bush

War - Bush started Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama attempted to extend Bush's withdrawal from Iraq and also attacked Syria and Libya though to my surprise - not Iran. Syria and Libya don't seem as big a deal as Iraq and Afghan, but does anyone think he wouldn't have invaded them if he was president from 2000 to 2008?

Economics - Obama's stimulus was much larger than anything carried out by Bush to my knowledge. Both were bad about bailouts

Civil liberties - Obama has expanded the atrocities started under Bush, drone strikes against American citizens for one. So I guess Obama is worst

tone - that's about the only thing I can think for sure Obama is better at. He doesn't go around saying "I'm the decider", "mission accomplished", etc and he's a more eloquent and down to earth speaker.

If you can name some key areas where Obama was better, I'd like to hear them.

Specsaregood makes a good point in that Obama could have been even worse with more years of a Democrat controlled Congress (not that McCain with a Republican dominated Congress would have been better - probably worse than Obama's actual performance I'd guess)

[Working Poor]

I don't like obamacare or how he extended the patriot act. I don't hate him I am just not in love with him.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Definitions of okay in various forms of speech:



exclamation: okay

used to express assent, agreement, or acceptance



adjective: okay

satisfactory but not exceptionally or especially good



adverb: okay

in a satisfactory manner or to a satisfactory extent



noun: okay

an authorization or approval



verb: okay

sanction or give approval to





So, is Obama an okay president? My answer is an unequivocal no.

[DamianTV]

I have learned to not hate Puppets, but the Puppet Masters.

Professing hatred in this day and age will land those who whisper above their breath in condemnation of Puppet Presidents will soon find themselves Disappeared.

If we want somewhere to place blame, then I'd look to Obama's Handler, who I suspect is Zbiginew Brezinski.

[Wooden Indian]

Oh for sure! Ran our national debt up to historically absurd levels, increased big brother's watchful eye with illegal spying on his citizens, murdered untold people with his sweet little drones... duh, the dood is totally OK!

Seriously, what the $#@! is wrong with you?

[tangent4ronpaul]

Check you calendar. April first is MONTHS away!

That said, he's a likable guy. Just do not want him in the drivers seat...
I'd much rather go golfing with Obama than duck hunting with Chesney...

-t

[A Son of Liberty]

Check you calendar. April first is MONTHS away!

That said, he's a likable guy. Just do not want him in the drivers seat...
I'd much rather go golfing with Obama than duck hunting with Chesney...

-t

You really think he's a likable guy? Have you ever spent any time around someone like Obama? I'm talking Ivy League educated progressives. They're some of the most annoying people on the planet.

[Ronin Truth]

The bar for POTUS (and candidate POTUS wannabes) has been set awfully low for quite some time now.

[jmdrake]

I can't say I'm a fan of him, but compared to W he's a lot less scary. I find myself agreeing with him more often then not when it comes to anything other than economic policy. I imagine the country would be in a much worse place if any Republican won, other than Paul, in either of the past elections. Thoughts? Am I alone here?

Really, you can't think of anything you disagree with Obama on other than economic policy?

So you agree with.....

TSA expansion? http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin...ay-near-you/2/

NSA expansion? http://www.wired.com/2014/11/utah-co...r-data-center/

Backing Al Qaeda and initiating a "kinetic action" (war) against an ally (Libya)? http://www.independentsentinel.com/t...eda-all-along/

Backing Al Qaeda and trying to overthrow another former ally (Assad) in Syria? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIRUeJYFZ94

Selling guns to Mexican drug lords in an effort to undermine U.S. gun rights? http://www.cbsnews.com/news/document...n-regulations/

How about having U.S. troops protect the opium trade in Afghanistan? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNqIrDKnNE8

The IRS harassing political opponents of the president? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MAJu6BuwAQ

Yeah. If none of the above bothers you (and I could go on) then you are alone. I do think John McCain arguably would have been a worse president but only because he had a fetish for going to war with Iran. Any jackass who would sink "bomb bomb bomb Iran" when the American people were already war weary is not fit to be dog catcher let alone senator let alone president. But Obama has been a disaster as president. Even black people who are informed and honest have to admit that under Obama blacks are doing worse than before. (That's back to the economic issues you were talking about, but still).

[Spikender]

$#@! no.

The only aspect Obama that is remotely "okay" is that he's not any worse than anybody else who ran against him, with the obvious exception of Ron Paul. I'm sure we would've been in a similar yet different mess with any other candidate sans Paul if they won.

[jmdrake]

$#@! no.

The only aspect Obama that is remotely "okay" is that he's not any worse than anybody else who ran against him, with the obvious exception of Ron Paul. I'm sure we would've been in a similar yet different mess with any other candidate sans Paul if they won.

Well to be fair I can think of a few things I agree with Obama on. Opening trade with Cuba for one. Rolling back (at least somewhat) disparate sentencing for crack versus powder cocaine is another. There may be a few more things if I think hard enough. But yeah, overall he's been a disaster for freedom and not just because of economics. And yes, any other major party candidate other than Ron would have been as bad. The major parties are the problem.

[Warlord]

Well to be fair I can think of a few things I agree with Obama on. Opening trade with Cuba for one. Rolling back (at least somewhat) disparate sentencing for crack versus powder cocaine is another. There may be a few more things if I think hard enough. But yeah, overall he's been a disaster for freedom and not just because of economics. And yes, any other major party candidate other than Ron would have been as bad. The major parties are the problem.

If Obama cared about the crack vs, powder sentencing he;d had pardoned a bunch of those serving mandatory miniumums such as Wendos Angelos who got 50 years for selling some weed. check out www.famm.org

[jmdrake]

If Obama cared about the crack vs, powder sentencing he;d had pardoned a bunch of those serving mandatory miniumums such as Wendos Angelos who got 50 years for selling some weed. check out www.famm.org

I clicked on your link and one of the top stories I saw was this:

FAMM Praises Obama for Commuting Sentences of Barbara Scrivner, Others

Sure, more could be done. More can always be done. If Rand gets elected will he mass pardon all non violent drug offenders the day after he is inaugurated? Maybe. Maybe not. If we're going to be honest, we have to at least acknowledge positive moves done by the other side. It will be easier for a Rand Paul to continue pardoning nonviolent drug offenders with the precedent being set by Obama.

[pcosmar]

At least he is not Romney. (or McCain)

It could be worse.

[Ronin Truth]

Apparently enough folks think so, after all he got elected twice (by the vote counters). Go figure.

[Peace Piper]

find myself agreeing with him more often then not when it comes to anything other than economic policy. I imagine the country would be in a much worse place if any Republican won, other than Paul, in either of the past elections. Thoughts? Am I alone here?

How can you "agree" with this person when literally almost everything that spouts forth from his grinning mouth is a lie? This has got to be one of the worst presidents ever to hold the office. EVER.

Stockholm syndrome? How sad to see this from someone that has been here since '07.

This grinning jug eared lying SOB almost makes Reagan look like Thomas Jefferson. I count the days until I won't have to stumble on his voice when tuning through a radio.



Ramming through a law (after lying about it AT EVERY POSSIBLE CHANCE) that mandates every citizen to purchase corporate insurance is now not a big deal?

And his latest behind the scenes attempts to shove yet 2 more so called "free trade" agreements down the dumb citizens throats is gonna be great for the few that still have managed to hold part time jobs, after he lied about his position on NAFTA. This clown literally makes me sick.



I really don't have much hope for this country at all anymore, thanks to this kind of drivel. It's going to take a complete economic meltdown before any kind of sanity starts to return.

Obama is a disgrace to every single American and every one else in the world. A DISGRACE.

[phill4paul]

In a nation of 300 million+ if the best we can do is "okay" regarding the presidency we need a reset.

[jonhowe]

In 6 years he's done 1 or 2 things I agree with. Most recently the Cuba thing.


I don't think that's NEARLY enough to offset the damage he's done. His economic policies alone have done as much damage as Bush II ever did. He's pushed us to the brink of real conflict with russia for the 1st time in my lifetime. He expanded the NSA. He extended the NDAA/Patrio Act/etc.

I think people are just tired of being angry and are looking for the bright side. It's good for your health, I guess?

[Spikender]

Well to be fair I can think of a few things I agree with Obama on. Opening trade with Cuba for one. Rolling back (at least somewhat) disparate sentencing for crack versus powder cocaine is another. There may be a few more things if I think hard enough. But yeah, overall he's been a disaster for freedom and not just because of economics. And yes, any other major party candidate other than Ron would have been as bad. The major parties are the problem.

Well of course Obama can't do everything wrong. A broken President is right twice every eight years.

[brandon]

Ok yea you guys are right. He has done a lot of $#@!ty things. I guess i was thinking about things like cuba and amnesty both of which i support. His marijuana policy has also been liberal enough to actually allow states to fully legalize, which i dont think would have happened under any other president. And while hes increased targeted air strikes and drones, he has for the most part drawn down and ended two ground wars and has not started any new ones.

I dont really care too much about obamacare. Yea its stupid, but giving cheap insurance to the poor isnt exactly an atrocity.

I just think in the history books obama will go down as a fairly benign president, comparitavely.

[kcchiefs6465]

Ok yea you guys are right. He has done a lot of $#@!ty things. I guess i was thinking about things like cuba and amnesty both of which i support. His marijuana policy has also been liberal enough to actually allow states to fully legalize, which i dont think would have happened under any other president. And while hes increased targeted air strikes and drones, he has for the most part drawn down and ended two ground wars and has not started any new ones.

I dont really care too much about obamacare. Yea its stupid, but giving cheap insurance to the poor isnt exactly an atrocity.

I just think in the history books obama will go down as a fairly benign president, comparitavely.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

They will be in Afghanistan for at least another decade, Iraq forever...

Obama is a war criminal. Pretty amazing to me that anyone, let alone someone who's ostensibly been following politics for as long as you have, does not see this.

Simply for Al Majalah he should be facing a court. This even ignores the policy in Somalia, Mali, Libya, Syria, Pakistan, Nigeria, etc. etc. etc. etc. Obama has done more to legitimize drone warfare, targeted strikes, assassination, and torture, than any other president did or probably could. He ordered the assassination of an American citizen without due process. He targets whisteblowers who step forward to speak on the administration's crimes. He uses political pressure to keep journalists who report on his war crimes in a cage.

This is so damn ridiculous I don't even know why I'm bothering.

[Voluntarist]

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