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    Obama being better than McCain is like saying Stalin is better than Hitler



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    Quote Originally Posted by jkob View Post
    Obama being better than McCain is like saying Stalin is better than Hitler
    No, it's "Stalin WAS better than Hitler"... (yeah, I guess he was...)
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  4. #63
    “As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” -- H.L. Mencken (Baltimore Evening Sun on 6 July 1920)

  5. #64
    Nope. You are living in the 4th term of George Bush. Obama capitalized on every bad mistake, power grab, and leftist domestic policy Bush made and has taken it to another level.
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    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

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    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
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  7. #65
    I would still vote for Obama over Mittens. Luckily, common sense is the first choice and I would write in Ron Paul. Again.

  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by brandon View Post
    I can't say I'm a fan of him, but compared to W he's a lot less scary. I find myself agreeing with him more often then not when it comes to anything other than economic policy. I imagine the country would be in a much worse place if any Republican won, other than Paul, in either of the past elections. Thoughts? Am I alone here?
    yes, you are alone or at least you should be.

    If you don't hate Obama for everything he stands for we'll never win. We need America to believe he's the antichrist born in Kenya or else people will never stop voting Democrat. the only way we'll win back this country is by believing Obama and democrats are communists and disagree with everything they say, if Obama says the sky is blue , we have to think of a different word to call the sky.

    The country would NOT be worse under Republican!!!! We'd not have Obamacare, we'd have lower wages, we'd not have another "pay equality" bill, we'd not have states voting left and right legalizing gay marriages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    The country would NOT be worse under Republican!!!! We'd not have Obamacare, we'd have lower wages, we'd not have another "pay equality" bill, we'd not have states voting left and right legalizing gay marriages.
    Romney would have changed none of that. Hell, he invented Obamacare. Or did you sleep through that detail?
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Romney would have changed none of that. Hell, he invented Obamacare. Or did you sleep through that detail?
    Yes, this^^
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  11. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Obama is a great POTUS, if you like Marxism, socialism, favoritism, race baiting, power grabbing, Constitution shredding, free market economy destroying, debt piling, pork spending, war-mongering, drone killing, crony corporatism, big government and Big Brother.

    Perhaps we need a thread title change:

    "But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."
    Some of those are contradictory. Marxism and crony capitalism, for example. Marx thoroughly disliked crony capitalism-"Capitalism" is his word for bourgeois corporatists. See Das Kapital, for example.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
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    While the libertaran in me does not care what mind altering substances one chooses to use, the OP is why I suggest not doing so.
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  13. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Romney would have changed none of that. Hell, he invented Obamacare. Or did you sleep through that detail?
    But it wouldn't be called Obamacare. That's the point! The only thing wrong about ObamaCare is that it's called Obamacare! Republicans would've had a better system just by not calling it ObamaCare, just ask Sarah Palin, she would never allow death panels to exist because obviously under a Republican system nobody would ever die.
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  14. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Some of those are contradictory. Marxism and crony capitalism, for example. Marx thoroughly disliked crony capitalism-"Capitalism" is his word for bourgeois corporatists. See Das Kapital, for example.
    Marx may have hated fascism, but fascists have always adored Marx.

    And so has it always been with the silly buggar who invents the most corruptible system ever, in an effort to be helpful.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    In a nation of 300 million+ if the best we can do is "okay" regarding the presidency we need a reset.
    "Okay" is indeed the absolute best we can expect from an average drawn upon 300 million+ people. (There is a good reason why the concept of the "lowest common denominator" has negative connotations when used outside of mathematics as a metaphor.)

    "More" is not "better," the country is too damn big, and we are in fact in dire need of a "reset" ...

    IOW: Break it up and break it down!

    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs6465 View Post
    [Obama] ordered the assassination of an American citizen without due process.
    Anwar al-Awlaki and his son Abdulrahman make two such assassinations of US citizens under Obama's watch.

    It should surprise no one if there are more ...

    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Obama is a great POTUS, if you like Marxism, socialism, favoritism, race baiting, power grabbing, Constitution shredding, free market economy destroying, debt piling, pork spending, war-mongering, drone killing, crony corporatism, big government and Big Brother.
    Some of those are contradictory. Marxism and crony capitalism, for example. Marx thoroughly disliked crony capitalism-"Capitalism" is his word for bourgeois corporatists. See Das Kapital, for example.
    Maybe so - but since when has contradiction been any kind of stumbling block in politics?

    The absence of contradiction is simply not to be expected from the booboisie - or from the politicians who pander to them.
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  17. #74
    Obama is a piece of crap. Nuff said.
    Too bad our elected officials are not as aggressively trying to reduce the federal deficit as they are trying to strip us of our constitutional rights.

  18. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    Obama is a great President. He is executing the duties & responsibilities of President as is intended for the position.
    LOL. It's funny when people read your post without a working sarcasm detector.
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  19. #76
    Obama is the response to bush... We'll see what we've learned next election


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    A white Republican wouldn't have been able to get away with such crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    A white Republican wouldn't have been able to get away with such crimes.
    Dubya and Cheney got away with almost all of the same crimes and one or two more.
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Dubya and Cheney got away with almost all of the same crimes and one or two more.
    Not like this. He had the media covering up every possible every scandal. And any modicum of criticism is immediately projected as some sort of racial animus. Obama was handpicked as the frontman for the NWO. To accelerate and continue what what they started with the Gerard Ford administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Not like this. He had the media covering up every possible every scandal. And any modicum of criticism is immediately projected as some sort of racial animus. Obama was handpicked as the frontman for the NWO. To accelerate and continue what what they started with the Gerard Ford administration.
    They not only got every possible scandal covered up (how much have you heard in the MSM about Cheney personally calling the Air Force off the hijacked jetliners?), but every critic was projected as a 'terrist'. Dubya was hand picked as frontman for the NWO by his father, who is not only a former head of the CIA, but just happens to be the first person who used the phrase 'New World Order' in front of television cameras.
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    At least he is not Romney. (or McCain)

    It could be worse.
    A republican wouldn't have been given such a long leash. That it is the beauty of a biracial president with the unyielding loyalty of the corporate media. You are practically teflon in order to push forth certain policy initiatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    A republican wouldn't have been given such a long leash.
    You mean his brother (if he had one) could not only have filled WTC7 with explosives, but could have bragged about it too?
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    They not only got every possible scandal covered up (how much have you heard in the MSM about Cheney personally calling the Air Force off the hijacked jetliners?), but every critic was projected as a 'terrist'. Dubya was hand picked as frontman for the NWO by his father, who is not only a former head of the CIA, but just happens to be the first person who used the phrase 'New World Order' in front of television cameras.
    Do you think Bush and Cheney would have survived an IRS scandal? Utilizing the IRS to punish political opponents? They would have been impeached. It would have been Watergate X 10. Bush set the standard for criminality but Obama raised it by two notches thanks to a fawning 4th estate. With each passing POTUS, they each raise the bar with their audacity.

  28. #84
    He's below ok, but above absolutely trash.
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    http://politix.topix.com/story/6072-...als-under-bush

    "In 2004, the IRS went after the NAACP, auditing the nation's oldest civil rights group after its chairman criticized President Bush for being the first sitting president since Herbert Hoover not to address the organization," writes Seitz-Wald. He quotes the then NAACP chairman: "It's pretty obvious that the complainant was someone who doesn't believe George Bush should be criticized, and it's obvious of their response that the IRS believes this, too."

    In 2006, the IRS investigated Greenpeace at the instigation of a pressure group funded by Exxon Mobile.

    In 2005 the Senate held a hearing on political activity by "social welfare" groups, at which it was noted that the IRS needed "to better define the lines between politics and social welfare," writes Seitz-Wald. Yet nothing was done. Meanwhile nonprofits experienced bizarre inconsistencies, like the non-profit Emerge America which was given non-profit status in Kentucky but denied it in Massachusetts, Maine, and Nevada.
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    I think this sums it up. A democrat who admitted that she has never seen such a cunning, cuttthroat administration in her entire career.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/...se-181742.html

    New York Times Executive Editor Jill Abramson says that President Obama's White House is the "most secretive White House" that she's covered during her long tenure as a political journalist.

    "I would say it is the most secretive White House that I have ever been involved in covering, and that includes — I spent 22 years of my career in Washington and covered presidents from President Reagan on up through now, and I was Washington bureau chief of the Times during George W. Bush's first term," Abramson told Al Jazeera America in an interview that will air on Sunday.

    "I dealt directly with the Bush White House when they had concerns that stories we were about to run put the national security under threat. But, you know, they were not pursuing criminal leak investigations," she continued. "The Obama administration has had seven criminal leak investigations. That is more than twice the number of any previous administration in our history. It's on a scale never seen before. This is the most secretive White House that, at least as a journalist, I have ever dealt with."

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandon View Post
    I can't say I'm a fan of him, but compared to W he's a lot less scary. I find myself agreeing with him more often then not when it comes to anything other than economic policy. I imagine the country would be in a much worse place if any Republican won, other than Paul, in either of the past elections. Thoughts? Am I alone here?
    I don't see how. Obama continued the same war time policies of W. Obama continued the same domestic spying policies as W. Obama continued the same drone policies of W, even escalating them to assassinating Americans. He continued the same torturing policies as W, Obama just move it off shore. Obama has re-signed the Patriot Act multiple times. Obama and W have the same economic policies with the bailouts and corporate socialism. The more this goes on, the more I fail to see a substantial difference between W and Obombya. Don't fall for the rhetoric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    I don't see how. Obama continued the same war time policies of W. Obama continued the same domestic spying policies as W. Obama continued the same drone policies of W, even escalating them to assassinating Americans. He continued the same torturing policies as W, Obama just move it off shore. Obama has re-signed the Patriot Act multiple times. Obama and W have the same economic policies with the bailouts and corporate socialism. The more this goes on, the more I fail to see a substantial difference between W and Obombya. Don't fall for the rhetoric.
    And the worst part is that he suckered so many into believing that he was the opposite of Dubya. That tells you what type of sociopath that we're dealing with. At least Bush told you what he was going to do and followed through on those atrocious policies.



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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Some of those are contradictory. Marxism and crony capitalism, for example. Marx thoroughly disliked crony capitalism-"Capitalism" is his word for bourgeois corporatists. See Das Kapital, for example.
    This is true. But at the end of the day, socialism and communism only lead to crony capitalism. Corpratism is what happens when you engage is socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    At least Bush told you what he was going to do and followed through on those atrocious policies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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