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Thread: What the hell is this flap over the movie "The Interview"?

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    Exclamation What the hell is this flap over the movie "The Interview"?

    Shows you how out of touch I am...

    But am I understanding this right?

    The film is pulled and cannot be seen because of threats from North Korea?

    Because of "safety"?

    On December 17, 2014, after a number of major North American cinema chains pulled the film in the interests of safety, Sony cancelled the theatrical release of The Interview and stated that it had no plans to release the film by any other means.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Int...282014_film%29

    Really?

    I mean...really?

    Safety?
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    Yep. I'm just getting word of it too. Supposedly some hackers in North Korea where the internet runs on 28K modems and DOS threatened to start a cyber war with Sony and any theatres that showed the movie.
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    yeah and according to our FBI they hacked sony. you know what it all reminds me of? that fake story after the Libya attack about it being because of a movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Shows you how out of touch I am...

    But am I understanding this right?

    The film is pulled and cannot be seen because of threats from North Korea?

    Because of "safety"?



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Int...282014_film%29

    Really?

    I mean...really?

    Safety?
    It was Sony's decision. The ones who claim to have hacked them threatened to target movie theaters where the film was being shown.

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    Yep, the movie is a slapstick comedy about the cia convincing some tv personality (the interviewer) to kill the leader of north korea. Sony is the producer of the movie and they got cyber attached. So now the movie is pulled.
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    Takes pressure off police militarization, and puts it on another unrelated topic. More than that I am sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Yep. I'm just getting word of it too. Supposedly some hackers in North Korea where the internet runs on 28K modems and DOS threatened to start a cyber war with Sony and any theatres that showed the movie.
    I read a long time ago North Korea's internet infrastructure is so bad that their website is hosted in China
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    It was Sony's decision. The ones who claim to have hacked them threatened to target movie theaters where the film was being shown.
    So it was not safety but corporate cowardliness.



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    We Must Dissent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    So it was not safety but corporate cowardliness.
    The cowardice runs even deeper. The *excuse* Sony used to pull the movie was concern over the safety of patrons at the theaters. The conventional wisdom on this was that the corporate bigwigs were worried that the worst and most incriminating emails from the cyber-hack had not been made public.... yet.

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    Yeah, haven't been paying much attention either...

    It seems like someone decided the US Government needed more public support to take over the internet. You know... for "safety".
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    A CIA/NSA

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    A Flap over a low budget trash film is getting ridicules.

    Doesn't the idiotic westren news media have anything else better to report?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    A Flap over a low budget trash film is getting ridicules.

    Doesn't the idiotic westren news media have anything else better to report
    ?
    No. 24/7 "news" cycles means they have to make up trash to fill air time.
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    Two cents.

    'Guardians of Peace' hacks Hollywood movies


    Nearly 200 Hollywood Actors and Execs Sign Pro-Israel, Anti-Hamas Statement

    August 23, 2014




    Amy Pascal, Ivan Reitman, Seth Rogen, Phil Rosenthal, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Marty Singer, Aaron Sorkin, Sylvester Stallone, Nina Tassler, Jerry Weintraub and plenty others lend their names in support

    Gaza Anonymous Hacking Attack Shuts Down 'Hundreds' Of Israeli Government Websites

    Huffington Post UK | By Louise Ridley
    05/08/2014 18:05 BST Updated: 06/08/2014 09:59 BST

    The hacking collective Anonymous has warned it will launch more attacks on Israeli government websites after apparently disabling more than 500, in a wave of cyber offensives which it says are in retaliation for Israel’s bombardment of Gaza.
    It also claims to have leaked personal details of 70,000 users of the Israeli government jobseeker website zerem.co.il.

    Pro-Palestinian protesters in France wearing the iconic Guy Fawkes mask, which has become symbolic of Anonymous

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014...n_5650652.html




    Is "blame the movie for Sony hack" another "blame the video for Benghazi" moment for Obama?





    Stasi: No way North Korea could hack Sony

    If you think North Korea pulled off that massive cyber attack against Sony alone, raise your hand. If you swear they had nothing to do with it, raise your hand.

    NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
    Sunday, December 21, 2014, 12:59 AM

    New York Daily News photo illustration Kim Jong Un has as much chance of launching this cyberhack as Kim Kardashian has of fitting into a coach airline seat.


    The movie’s un-release is such a big deal that on Friday even President Obama condemned Sony for bagging the movie, and suggested that Sony should have spoken to him first.

    And who exactly at Sony would have made that call — Amy Pascal?

    “Hi, President Django? Amy Pascal here.”
    “Who?”
    “‘12 Years a Slave,’Amy?”
    “Oh you. No! I won’t park your car.”
    “Legitimate mistake. Black guy. Parking lot. Bow tie?”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2052367






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  20. #17
    i guess we better send in clowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    It was Sony's decision. The ones who claim to have hacked them threatened to target movie theaters where the film was being shown.
    Sony says it was the movie theater chains which are refusing to show the film. They are concerned about potential liability should they actually show it and have a real attack for running it. Without all the fuss about it, it likely would have been a not terribly successful movie (in terms of revenues)- word is that it basically sucks. Now if it shows people will go to see what the ado really is.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 12-20-2014 at 01:40 PM.

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    Phew.... Good thing they stopped that. Now we need the government to protect the internet from those evil North Korean hackers. Please please please, take our rights, make us safe.

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    This is just rich. Hollywood has no courage at all. They take pot shots at anyone they want. They mock Christians and conservatives, and will do just about anything for a dollar. Now they put out something that offends the last nation on earth whose opinion should matter, and Hollywood just scurries back in its hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    So it was not safety but corporate cowardliness.
    All of the above. Sony only decided to pull the movie after the largest theater chains in the nation said they would not show it.

    And, given the culture we live in, who could blame these corporations for acting in such a manner? If ANYONE was hurt for ANY reason at ANY theater, you know that law suits would be flying and that companies would be on the hook in civil court. It would have been a mess. I'm not saying I agree that our never ending desire to litigate is a good thing, I'm just saying that it exists and probably motivated the theater chains and therefore Sony to pull the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Without all the fuss about it, it likely would have been a not terribly successful movie (in terms of revenues)- word is that it basically sucks. Now if it shows people will go to see what the ado really is.
    If we ever see it on Netflix, this. It's a dog, not worth the premiere costs, and this is the only way to get anyone interested.

    If we don't, then we know Hollywood dreamed up something stupid and utterly ridiculous and depicted the CIA as doing it, and the CIA really is doing it.

    And if you flip a quarter and it lands on the table balanced on its edge... Well, there's a greater chance of that than of North Korea hacking Sony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Sony says it was the movie theater chains which are refusing to show the film. They are concerned about potential liability should they actually show it and have a real attack for running it. Without all the fuss about it, it likely would have been a not terribly successful movie (in terms of revenues)- word is that it basically sucks. Now if it shows people will go to see what the ado really is.
    There's no way the movie sucks, or that it would have been a box office failure. Rogen and Franco films rake in cash, and they do it on a relatively small budget -- this opus only cost $40M. Given all the hype, I'm sure the movie would have tripled that, at least, with no problem.

    As an aside, the brilliance that was This Is the End will forever justify any movie those two guys wish to make in the future.

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    Someone got cranky when the Red Dawn remake changed the antagonist from China to North Korea...

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    If we ever see it on Netflix, this. It's a dog, not worth the premiere costs, and this is the only way to get anyone interested.
    So Hollywood runs our country and its foreign policy?
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    Satanic Verses 2.0 (ironically, a h/t to Maddow for the comparison)

    Mostly manufactured hype for a movie that otherwise wouldn't do very well. Now, the 'controversy' will make the sheeple want to go see it when it does get released.
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  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    So Hollywood runs our country and its foreign policy?
    I don't know what makes you think what you quoted has anything to do with this, because it doesn't. Sony could have pretended to hack itself, for its own reasons.

    That said, G.E. owns or owned NBC, Westinghouse owns or owned CBS, and you just generally couldn't separate the mass entertainment complex from the military industrial complex if I gave you a crowbar.

    Why, who did you think runs our foreign policy?
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    This is just too damn silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I don't know what makes you think what you quoted has anything to do with this, because it doesn't. Sony could have pretended to hack itself, for its own reasons.

    That said, G.E. owns or owned NBC, Westinghouse owns or owned CBS, and you just generally couldn't separate the mass entertainment complex from the military industrial complex if I gave you a crowbar.

    Why, who did you think runs our foreign policy?
    If I may butt in-the bankers. Hollywood and corporate media have just about always been propaganda organs for the banksters, thte MIC, and the other nogoodniki.
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