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    Much better to hold the coconspirators personally liable, the kop and the DA.....

    I know, qualified immunity...



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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Much better to hold the coconspirators personally liable, the kop and the DA.....

    I know, qualified immunity...
    That's qualified impunity....

    Asked how much the case cost taxpayers, Healy said "I wasn't keeping a tally."



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    Asked how much the case cost taxpayers, Healy said "I wasn't keeping a tally."


    ... not when there's so many innocent mundanes out there who need to be beaten, killed and/or locked up in cages ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Because burdening the taxpayers has worked so well in the past to curtail kop violence........
    Quote Originally Posted by anaconda View Post
    The guy deserves to be reimbursed, and the local community should bare some of the responsibility.
    Ideally we could target the specific people who actually did the violence. But, if suing "the government" is the only way, and they pay back stolen money... I can live with it. Murray Rothbard once said libertarians shouldn't have to be martyrs (and specifically in the context of taking government money no less.) If that's the way they have to do it, go for it. I'm not saying its OK to victimize the average taxpayer just because they are indifferent to it, but it wouldn't be Chadwick's fault. It would be the fault of the police and the tax collectors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruckinMike View Post
    Damian,
    How does a populace starve the beast? Income tax with holding kind of puts the old kabash on not paying taxes unless you simply quit your job and get on food stamps. Is your house paid for? If not then lose that too... The bastards knew what they were doing in 1943. In '43 tax revenue was $7.3 billion, two years after "income tax withholding" was introduced revenues jumped over six fold to $43 billion.
    Bingo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Makes me ask,, What did you think it was? and why did you think that?
    Sorry, it was more of a rhetorical question, I know what the score is. Still, this piece seemed to present a pretty grim case in a nonchalant manner, like no one should really be phased by this anymore...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
    Sorry, it was more of a rhetorical question, I know what the score is. Still, this piece seemed to present a pretty grim case in a nonchalant manner, like no one should really be phased by this anymore...
    That will become the norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFanatic View Post
    Ideally we could target the specific people who actually did the violence. But, if suing "the government" is the only way, and they pay back stolen money... I can live with it. Murray Rothbard once said libertarians shouldn't have to be martyrs (and specifically in the context of taking government money no less.) If that's the way they have to do it, go for it. I'm not saying its OK to victimize the average taxpayer just because they are indifferent to it, but it wouldn't be Chadwick's fault. It would be the fault of the police and the tax collectors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
    Sorry, it was more of a rhetorical question, .
    I know,
    But those are still good questions to ask.

    Anything to get someone to look past the headline and actually think about it for a second.
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