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    Human composting

    Is this even sanitary? Is several weeks long enough?
    I'm not sure I like the idea of tossing mom in the veg garden, just seem a little icky.





    The greenest goodbye: Seattle group wants to compost the dead

    SEATTLE (Reuters) - Ashes to ashes, dust to dust - and corpses to crops?

    In Seattle, a local nonprofit group wants to become the world's first organization to offer as a service human composting, in which the departed are turned into nutrient-rich soil that can be used to grow flowers, trees or food.

    Getting there might not be easy.

    The Urban Death Project is the brainchild of Seattle architect Katrina Spade, who came up with the concept in 2011. Spade calls composting a meaningful, sanitary and ecological alternative to burial and cremation.

    “The idea is to fold the dead back into the city,” she said. “The options we currently have for our bodies are lacking, both from an environmental standpoint, but also, and perhaps more importantly, from a meaning standpoint.”

    Spade said she hopes to get the service up and running in three years. But the project has significant legal and regulatory hurdles to surmount before it can get under way.

    While the Urban Death Project has developed architectural designs for a human composting facility, the group still has to complete fundraising and find a site to build its facility.

    Beyond that, the project would need to obtain a license to operate a funeral home, according to the Washington state Department of Licensing. It would also have to tackle local zoning restrictions, which require composting facilities to be outside populated areas.

    But before those issues can be addressed, the group and its proponents would have to push through a change to state law, which requires that all human remains be buried, cremated, donated to science or transferred out of state.

    "For this project to work in Washington state, at a minimum there would need to be a change in state law," said James Apa,
    a spokesman for Public Health - Seattle and King County.

    Spade said she is undeterred by the obstacles.

    "There will be some regulatory work to do, but I'm confident," she said. "People want this option."

    The Urban Death Project's plans call for a three-story-high polished concrete composting structure called "the core," which would be surrounded by contemplative spaces for visitors.

    Bodies would be refrigerated on site for up to 10 days. No embalming would be necessary, since decomposition is the goal.

    After a ceremony - religious or not - friends and family would help insert the body into the core. Over several weeks a body would turn into about one cubic yard of compost, enough to plant a tree or a patch of flowers.

    The compost could be taken by the family or left for use or donation by the Urban Death Project.

    “In this system, we transform from being human to being something else,” Spade said. “And at the end, what’s coming out, the material that we use – it’s special and it’s sacred, but it’s not human.”

    'SOUNDS LOVELY TO ME'

    Spade said human composting uses the same process as animal composting, in which deceased cows, horses and other animals are buried under wood mulch, sawdust and wood chips.

    Thomas Bass, a livestock environmental associate specialist at Montana State University, agreed.

    “The science follows,” he said, adding that livestock composting has grown in popularity because it is less expensive than incineration and is more ecological.

    The prospect of feeding an apple or avocado tree in her post-life appeals to Grace Seidel, 55, a Seattle artist who has announced to friends and family her desire to be composted after she dies.

    “The idea of being reduced to dirt and being able to be put under a tree sounds lovely to me," she said.

    Spade said the reception to the idea has been positive - mostly.

    “People love the idea of growing trees,” she said. “They get really squeamish with tomatoes.”

    https://news.yahoo.com/greenest-good...160529263.html
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 01-02-2023 at 06:14 PM.



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    Ooooo.... Looks like someone finally found a use for Nancy Pelosi.


    (too much?)
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  4. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Ooooo.... Looks like someone finally found a use for Nancy Pelosi.


    (too much?)

    Ewww...I don't wanna eat Nancy Pelosi.

  5. #4
    I wanna be cremated and packed into a Willow.


  6. #5
    If you think about it there is probably enough concrete and steel on the upper surface of Earth as a result of contemporary burial rituals to probably build a bridge to the moon and back like ten ten times or so. I wouldn't want this composting thing, though. With my crummy luck some mecantilist dolt would probably use me to fertilize gmo warez or something just for a nickel or so more on his stock return.

  7. #6
    This actually is not a good idea... Since humans are at the top of the food pyramid our bodies are loaded with heavy metals compared to shorter living animals. Generally, the older you get, the more food you consume, the more waste accumulates in your body.
    "I am a bird"

  8. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    ...Generally, the older you get, the more food you consume...
    Really? For me it's the opposite. Like when I was a kid I could eat a couple of whole chickens like it was nothing. And then you had all of the other stuff too. These days I really only eat a full meal once a day.
    Last edited by Natural Citizen; 12-15-2014 at 01:25 PM.

  9. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    I wanna be cremated and packed into a Willow.
    That's cool. I think I want to be a diamond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Citizen View Post
    Really? For me it's the opposite. Like when I was a kid I could eat a couple of whole chickens like it was nothing. And then you had all of the other stuff too. These days I really only eat a full meal once a day.
    Sorry if I was a little vague, I mean consuming more food in a cumulative sense. Every day you eat something and that adds to the total amount of food you ate. Everything you eat contains some atoms of mercury, lead, zinc, cadmium, uranium. Some of it goes through your body, some of it stays behind. The older you get the more of these minerals accumulate. Apart from minerals there are also chemicals such as PCB's which accumulate in your body over time.

    When I go fishing and I take fish to eat I rather take the smaller ones, apart from them being big enough for me to eat, they also should contain less toxic substances that normally accumulate when they age. Another benefit is that the bigger fish, when mating, generate more offspring. It's one of the reasons I don't understand why there are minimum sizes but no maximum sizes. A max size in my opinion would do more for conservation.
    "I am a bird"

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    Sorry if I was a little vague, I mean consuming more food in a cumulative sense. Every day you eat something and that adds to the total amount of food you ate. Everything you eat contains some atoms of mercury, lead, zinc, cadmium, uranium. Some of it goes through your body, some of it stays behind. The older you get the more of these minerals accumulate. Apart from minerals there are also chemicals such as PCB's which accumulate in your body over time.

    When I go fishing and I take fish to eat I rather take the smaller ones, apart from them being big enough for me to eat, they also should contain less toxic substances that normally accumulate when they age. Another benefit is that the bigger fish, when mating, generate more offspring. It's one of the reasons I don't understand why there are minimum sizes but no maximum sizes. A max size in my opinion would do more for conservation.
    Ah. I see.

    My dad always told me to only keep the small fish too. I wonder if that had anything to do with it now.

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    In Seattle, a local nonprofit group wants to become the world's first organization to offer as a service human composting, in which the departed are turned into nutrient-rich soil that can be used to grow flowers, trees or food.


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    I have an alternative. Let maggots eat the bodies, let chickens eat the maggots, let government school children eat the chicken eggs, let the military industrial complex eat the children.
    The proper concern of society is the preservation of individual freedom; the proper concern of the individual is the harmony of society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    I have an alternative. Let maggots eat the bodies, let chickens eat the maggots, let government school children eat the chicken eggs, let the military industrial complex eat the children.
    Sorry. That idea has already been taken.
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  16. #14
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  17. #15
    Burial is composting.

    Back to the earth from whence we came.

  18. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Burial is composting.

    Back to the earth from whence we came.
    Yeah....except most folks are buried in a metal casket inside a concrete vault. Why I have no idea. Maybe I'll put in my will a demand to be buried in a pine box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Yeah....except most folks are buried in a metal casket inside a concrete vault. Why I have no idea. Maybe I'll put in my will a demand to be buried in a pine box.
    My Dad's casket came with a 10 year money back warranty. WTF?

  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    My Dad's casket came with a 10 year money back warranty. WTF?
    Uh....what? I have heard of unscrupulous funeral homes secretly digging up caskets and reusing them.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    My Dad's casket came with a 10 year money back warranty. WTF?
    The "Rapture" clause . . .
    The proper concern of society is the preservation of individual freedom; the proper concern of the individual is the harmony of society.

    "Who would be free, themselves must strike the blow." - Byron

    "Who overcomes by force, hath overcome but half his foe." - Milton

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    Most of us will probably only have one chance to use a human skeleton in a prank - our own death. So choose wisely where you leave your carcass. In a chest freezer at the u-stor-it. In the branches of a tree near Lover's Lane. In the trunk of Jamie Dimon's car. In the attic of your ex-wife's house. The possibilities are endless . . .
    The proper concern of society is the preservation of individual freedom; the proper concern of the individual is the harmony of society.

    "Who would be free, themselves must strike the blow." - Byron

    "Who overcomes by force, hath overcome but half his foe." - Milton

  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Uh....what? I have heard of unscrupulous funeral homes secretly digging up caskets and reusing them.
    It was part of the sales pitch for the better coffin. It looked just like the less expensive one but it came with a warranty. I tried to talk my Mom out of it but she was a wreck and wanted the best for him.

    It's warrantied against rust or defects for 10 years. Like I'm gonna dig it up and check.

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    Most of us will probably only have one chance to use a human skeleton in a prank - our own death. So choose wisely where you leave your carcass. In a chest freezer at the u-stor-it. In the branches of a tree near Lover's Lane. In the trunk of Jamie Dimon's car. In the attic of your ex-wife's house. The possibilities are endless . . .
    Must spread reputation around....

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    It was part of the sales pitch for the better coffin. It looked just like the less expensive one but it came with a warranty. I tried to talk my Mom out of it but she was a wreck and wanted the best for him.

    It's warrantied against rust or defects for 10 years. Like I'm gonna dig it up and check.
    I'd just ask for some money back or threaten to do it while taping and uploading the results to youtube and giving it to the media. That is one racket that would never wish the results were seen in the light of day.

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    It was part of the sales pitch for the better coffin. It looked just like the less expensive one but it came with a warranty. I tried to talk my Mom out of it but she was a wreck and wanted the best for him.

    It's warrantied against rust or defects for 10 years. Like I'm gonna dig it up and check.
    It's sad how they greedily prey on people who have lost a loved one. When we decided to cremate my father the urns prices were insane as well. We had a really great lady work with us and tell us that she could lose her job for telling us this, but if the urns were not what we wanted do not feel obligated to get them. The remains are sealed in a box when delivered to the family. If you want you can go to Hobby Lobby and get an urn for under $50.00.
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    i'm going to be cremated and my ashes tossed into the HOH river, which empties into the Pacific Ocean.

    Eventually, my ashes will be swept up into the evaporation process, and my molecules will fall as rain, and a rain drop with my essence could land on your lower lip...fun times ahead...

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Must spread reputation around....
    I gave him some.
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  31. #27
    This thread is full of win. Funny stuff people. Rapture clause ha ha ha.
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    My remains will probably be toxic to most forms of life including plants......

  33. #29
    I like to joke around, and often say "when I die, donate my body to Science Fiction".

    I never imagined that such a remark would result in being composted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    My remains will probably be toxic to most forms of life including plants......
    Imagine tod evans becoming a tree and then being cit down and turned into furniture.

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