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    Kiss Your Grass-Fed Beef Goodbye! GMO Grass About to Be Approved

    Kiss Your Grass-Fed Beef Goodbye! GMO Grass About to Be Approved

    by Christina Sarich

    While many of us rely on grass-fed beef as a source of healthful, properly raised meat, that option of healthy eating may just move down a peg. Why? Not because cattle may have to switch to GM grain, but rather because cattle may be forced to indulge in genetically modified grass.

    The Scotts ‘Miracle-Gro’ Company which created genetically modified RoundUp-Ready Kentucky Bluegrass has announced that it will conduct field trials at the homes of Scotts’ employees. What’s more, they can do so without any government oversight because there are no laws that prohibit or limit the planting of GMO grass.

    We already know that RoundUp ready crops have been linked (retracted, but read more on that here) via independent peer reviewed studies to inflammatory, genotoxic, neurotoxic, carcinogenic, and endocrine disrupting diseases, as well as infertility. RoundUp also chelates important minerals from the body, robbing you of your good health.

    Now, cattle will graze upon GMO Kentucky Bluegrass and people will ingest the RoundUp chemicals sprayed on the cow’s favorite meal.

    You can guess who is behind this latest GMO development.

    Scotts is Monsanto’s exclusive agent for the marketing and distribution of consumer RoundUp.

    We are running out of time to try and get Scott’s from being able to market and sell this latest GMO product. You can sign this petition which will be sent to Hagedorn, along with the CEOs of Lowe’s and Home Depot who are expected to sell the GMO grass.

    Continued...
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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    We are being poisoned in so many ways.
    No one here wanted to be the Billionaire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indy Vidual View Post
    We are being poisoned in so many ways.
    Indeed. *SIGH*
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Control the food source and you control the people.
    #NashvilleStrong

    “I’m a doctor. That’s a baby.”~~~Dr. Manny Sethi

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    Quote Originally Posted by tobismom View Post
    Control the food source and you control the people.
    We have a thread winner!
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Thanks. It's not an original thought, I'm sure. Winning an argument is less about the complexity of the logic and more about distilling the verbage down to the simplest terms.
    #NashvilleStrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by tobismom View Post
    Thanks. It's not an original thought, I'm sure. Winning an argument is less about the complexity of the logic and more about distilling the verbage down to the simplest terms.
    “Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control the people.”
    ~ Henry Kissinger

    Lot's of people do not get this concept and it is where we are heading.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Actually nothing in the article points to organic grass fed beef being driven out of the market. Is GMO grass an invasive species? I dunno? Just collect grass seeds and prepare to replant every time your grass pasture is overrun. Organic grass fed beef isn't going anywhere as long as there is a market for it

    I think the headline is a bit alarmist.



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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Actually nothing in the article points to organic grass fed beef being driven out of the market. Is GMO grass an invasive species? I dunno? Just collect grass seeds and prepare to replant every time your grass pasture is overrun. Organic grass fed beef isn't going anywhere as long as there is a market for it

    I think the headline is a bit alarmist.
    Taking over our food supply is reason to be alarmed. If you think otherwise your just not paying attention, my friend.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Here's a flashback:

    Genetically Modified Grass Kills Cattle by Producing Warfare Chemical Cyanide

    Another report of genetically modified creations taking the lives of livestock has hit the media, and this time genetically modified grass has been identified as the culprit according to CBS News. Shockingly (and quite disturbingly), the GM grass actually produced toxic cyanide and sent the cattle into a life-ending fit that included painful bellowing and convulsions. The deaths have led to a federal investigation centered in Central Texas, where the cattle had resided.

    Just east of Austin, the cows lived on an 80-acre ranch owned by Jerry Abel. Abel says that the fields were used for over 15 years for cattle grazing and hay, and that the genetically modified grass was ‘tested’ previously and should have been ‘perfect’. The GM grass however, known as Tifton 85, appears have been producing toxic cyanide. Used as a genocidal agent in World War 2 by the Germans and considered to be an extremely dangerous substance internationally, it is extremely concerning that cyanide is now being produced by once harmless grass thanks to the modification process.

    The 18 cattle went off to enjoy some ‘fresh’ new genetically modified grass, when Abel says they went into a fit of convulsions and shrieks. He explains:

    “When our trainer first heard the bellowing, he thought our pregnant heifer may be having a calf or something,” said Abel. “But when he got down here, virtually all of the steers and heifers were on the ground. Some were already dead, and the others were already in convulsions.”

    Within 15 hours of this incident, all of the cattle had died as a result of the grass ‘suddenly’ producing cyanide and therefore throwing them into a lethal fit. According to USDA scientists, it may be the result of a mutation — the same kind of mutation that has been seen in many of Monsanto’s Roundup-Ready crops.

    What’s more is the fact that many other farmers are now testing their grounds and also finding the presence of cyanide. While there is not yet a large number of reports concerning cattle deaths from cyanide, it was recently revealed that one large biotech company Syngenta had been covering up further animal deaths from genetically modified corn.

    http://www.nationofchange.org/geneti...ide-1340631157
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    “Control oil and you control nations; control food and you control the people.”
    ~ Henry Kissinger

    Lot's of people do not get this concept and it is where we are heading.
    Exceptionally brilliant man, Kissinger. Look how simply he boils that down.
    #NashvilleStrong

    “I’m a doctor. That’s a baby.”~~~Dr. Manny Sethi

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Here's a flashback:

    Genetically Modified Grass Kills Cattle by Producing Warfare Chemical Cyanide

    Another report of genetically modified creations taking the lives of livestock has hit the media, and this time genetically modified grass has been identified as the culprit according to CBS News. Shockingly (and quite disturbingly), the GM grass actually produced toxic cyanide and sent the cattle into a life-ending fit that included painful bellowing and convulsions. The deaths have led to a federal investigation centered in Central Texas, where the cattle had resided.

    Just east of Austin, the cows lived on an 80-acre ranch owned by Jerry Abel. Abel says that the fields were used for over 15 years for cattle grazing and hay, and that the genetically modified grass was ‘tested’ previously and should have been ‘perfect’. The GM grass however, known as Tifton 85, appears have been producing toxic cyanide. Used as a genocidal agent in World War 2 by the Germans and considered to be an extremely dangerous substance internationally, it is extremely concerning that cyanide is now being produced by once harmless grass thanks to the modification process.

    The 18 cattle went off to enjoy some ‘fresh’ new genetically modified grass, when Abel says they went into a fit of convulsions and shrieks. He explains:

    “When our trainer first heard the bellowing, he thought our pregnant heifer may be having a calf or something,” said Abel. “But when he got down here, virtually all of the steers and heifers were on the ground. Some were already dead, and the others were already in convulsions.”

    Within 15 hours of this incident, all of the cattle had died as a result of the grass ‘suddenly’ producing cyanide and therefore throwing them into a lethal fit. According to USDA scientists, it may be the result of a mutation — the same kind of mutation that has been seen in many of Monsanto’s Roundup-Ready crops.

    What’s more is the fact that many other farmers are now testing their grounds and also finding the presence of cyanide. While there is not yet a large number of reports concerning cattle deaths from cyanide, it was recently revealed that one large biotech company Syngenta had been covering up further animal deaths from genetically modified corn.

    http://www.nationofchange.org/geneti...ide-1340631157
    This is even more confusing as to why this is a problem. If the GM grass is so harmful that it kills the cows, then there will be no beef to sell to the consumers. The GM grass will all by itself limit the GM beef coming to market. If you ask me, I say that's a win. Also the cyanide aka zyklone B was an insecticide used to kill lice and was used to protect the inmates not kill them. The author would dismiss govt proclamations about the safety on GMOs when it goes against her beliefs but easily swallows govt storyline about the Nazis when it works in her favor.

    Also, the FDA, EPA, USDA etc etc do all the controlling of the food supply already, so why rely on them for help? I really want to do something but I am not sure if there's anything I can even do to affect our current situation.
    Last edited by juleswin; 12-14-2014 at 08:33 PM. Reason: Typo galore

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Here's a flashback:

    Genetically Modified Grass Kills Cattle by Producing Warfare Chemical Cyanide

    Another report of genetically modified creations taking the lives of livestock has hit the media, and this time genetically modified grass has been identified as the culprit according to CBS News. Shockingly (and quite disturbingly), the GM grass actually produced toxic cyanide and sent the cattle into a life-ending fit that included painful bellowing and convulsions. The deaths have led to a federal investigation centered in Central Texas, where the cattle had resided.

    Again, you are not really a very good researcher. (That's because real research involves things like education and graduate degrees, not YouTube and Natural News.) You are just an ideologue propaganda machine, working for those that are lobbying to make the government take over the food.

    Here's the original CBS story: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/grass-li...cattle-deaths/

    Here's a big fat correction at the bottom of the page:
    CORRECTION: As originally published, this story referred to Tifton 85 grass as a genetically-modified product, which is incorrect; it is actually a hybrid of Bermuda grass.
    And here's a follow up story: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/grass-ti...hybrid-not-gm/

    In fact, Tifton 85 is a hybrid, not a GM organism.
    Hybrids are plants in which horticulturalists have crossed varieties of two or more plants in order to cultivate the most desirable characteristics of each, a process which has been used by farmers for centuries.
    According to the Georgia Seed Development Commission, Tifton 85 is a Bermuda grass hybrid developed in the mid-1980s as a hay grass that could withstand cold temperatures.
    It was a grass which Elgin, Texas rancher Jerry Abel has used for 15 years without incident, until several of his herd died.
    An official at the Department of Agriculture told CBS News that there are currently no genetically modified grasses on the market or bring grown for public use or consumption.
    But this won't stop you from repeating your lies over and over and over. The next time the subject of GM grass comes up, you'll pretend you didn't see this and you'l post it again, because that's just how you roll.

    YOu should be banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Again, you are not really a very good researcher. (That's because real research involves things like education and graduate degrees, not YouTube and Natural News.) You are just an ideologue propaganda machine, working for those that are lobbying to make the government take over the food.

    Here's the original CBS story: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/grass-li...cattle-deaths/

    Here's a big fat correction at the bottom of the page:

    And here's a follow up story: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/grass-ti...hybrid-not-gm/



    But this won't stop you from repeating your lies over and over and over. The next time the subject of GM grass comes up, you'll pretend you didn't see this and you'l post it again, because that's just how you roll.
    Cyanide is one of those compounds that just happens to occur in nature without any human help. I can believe this coming from a hybrid. Anyone who grew in west African know very well about cyanide poisoning in naturally growing organic cassava. Prepare it the wrong way and you kill your customers.

    But assuming this came from the GM grass, then the cows will die before hitting the market. Knowing this, why would anyone feed it to their herd? This is a solution looking for a problem.
    Last edited by juleswin; 12-14-2014 at 05:57 PM.

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    Here's a follow up story to the grass that killed the cattle. (Remember, this grass was developed using the antiquated techniques you all dramatically insist are safe....)

    http://stateimpact.npr.org/texas/201...central-texas/

    A New Victim of the Drought?[/h]Scientists would have a better understanding of whether Tifton could turn deadly again, if they knew exactly what circumstances caused the cattle deaths in Elgin. One theory is that last year’s historic drought, already the cause of so much suffering among ranchers, was the culprit.

    Redmon says thatmany different types of animal forage can create prussic acid when stressed by drought. It’s never been documented in Tifton 85 before. But, then again, there has never been a drought this severe in Texas since the hybrid strain was created.

    “Anything that causes stress can actually exacerbate that and cause the release of prussic acid in the plants,” Redmon said.

    But, given the special circumstance linked to the deaths in Elgin (tired roping cattle, new growth grass, drought followed by heavy rain), Redmon believes that recreating the conditions that made the grass poisonous will be “nearly impossible.”
    Again, your "research" leaves much to be desired. Like, facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post

    But assuming this came from the GM grass, then the cows will die before hitting the market. Knowing this, why would anyone feed it to their herd? This is a problem looking for a solution.

    DONNAY IS LYING! IT WAS NOT GM GRASS !!!!


    The grass had been used for 15 years, being fed to literally millions of heads of cattle. Apparently this was a perfect storm. I didn't spend a lot of time looking, but it doesn't seem like it's happened since then, either.
    Last edited by angelatc; 12-14-2014 at 05:59 PM.



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    Here's another flashback:

    Genes From Engineered Grass Spread for Miles, Study Finds

    By ANDREW POLLACK

    Published: September 21, 2004


    A new study shows that genes from genetically engineered grass can spread much farther than previously known, a finding that raises questions about the straying of other plants altered through biotechnology and that could hurt the efforts of two companies to win approval for the first bioengineered grass.

    The two companies, Monsanto and Scotts, have developed a strain of creeping bentgrass for use on golf courses that is resistant to the widely used herbicide Roundup. The altered plants would allow groundskeepers to spray the herbicide on their greens and fairways to kill weeds while leaving the grass unscathed.

    But the companies' plans have been opposed by some environmental groups as well as by the federal Forest Service and the Bureau of Land Management. Critics worry that the grass could spread to areas where it is not wanted or transfer its herbicide resistance to weedy relatives, creating superweeds that would be immune to the most widely used weed killer. The Forest Service said earlier this year that the grass "has the potential to adversely impact all 175 national forests and grasslands."

    Some scientists said the new results, to be published online this week by the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, did not necessarily raise alarms about existing genetically modified crops like soybeans, corn, cotton and canola. There are special circumstances, they say, that make the creeping bentgrass more environmentally worrisome, like its extraordinarily light pollen.

    Because Scotts has plans to develop other varieties of bioengineered grasses for use on household lawns, the new findings could have implications well beyond the golf course. And the study suggests that some previous studies of the environmental impact of genetically modified plants have been too small to capture the full spread of altered genes.

    Continued...
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Isn't it just maddening how she just flat out $#@!ing ignores the fact that her first lie was exposed, and just promptly posts another one? Why anybody with half a brain thinks she is some sort of an Earth-mother sage / guru just defies all logic.

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    Since the witch that DonnaY quoted didn'tmention which type of grass is being tested, I am assuming it's bentgrass, which is used on golf courses, not in cattle fields. But all that's typical of DOnnaY's research.

    What's really interesting about this is ...

    The ability to control Poa annua with glyphosate could eliminate nearly 500,000 pounds of pesticides including fumigants, fungicides, insecticides and herbicides per year, according to estimates based on current use patterns. Research also shows that watering needs are lessened when Poa annua is removed from the turf. A number of studies are being conducted with several universities to learn more about how watering needs are lessened when the percentage of Poa annua is changed.
    So keep weeping for the environment while organic farming methods continue to destroy it, because honestly - nobody actually expects you to make a lick of sense.

  23. #20
    Damage Control

    Whether something is called a GMO or it's called a hybrid is simply semantics. No matter how it's sliced (pardon the pun), what is happening is an intentional manipulation of Mother Nature. In our unquenchable thirst for power and money, the human race has become pompous and mistakenly convinced that we can control the monsters we create, that we have the ability to direct nature and shape our world to our own selfish perception of what is good for the rest of the world. And time after time, Mother Nature rises up to strike a retaliatory blow to remind us that we are not as omnipotent as we think. Instead of taking these reminders as the fair warnings they represent, the producers of such products blow them off as minor challenges to be overcome and then attempt to convince their detractors that they know more because they are more educated in the field of study, therefore true experts.

    Two days after the story broke, news sites were issuing detractions and making corrections regarding the deaths of the cattle. Apparently, they did not die from cyanide poisoning, but from prussic acid poisoning. Ahem! Prussic acid poisoning is hydrogen cyanide poisoning...same thing and another example of semantics. A second correction addressed the “mistaken” claim that the grass was genetically modified, correcting it to being a hybrid. These corrections are clearly a sign that the power machines are at work doing damage control.

    Enter the esteemed Dr. Larry Redmon, State Forage Specialist, who quickly posted this statement on the Texas AgriLife Extension Service blog:

    “... There is, although it appears to be an isolated event, prussic acid potential, and therefore potential for cattle death when grazing Tifton 85 bermudagrass....Some private individuals are beginning to issue their own notices at sale barns. This is not the type of announcement our producers need as all this does is alarm people...”

    Pardon me, Dr. Redmon, if I gaze at you with a somewhat skeptical eye. Your job is to help farmers to increase profits, not to protect human beings from the harmful effects of farming practices.

    The fact that his statement uses the word “potential” several times implies that cyanide poisoning is only possible and not necessarily fact, when after a number of tests on the grass were performed and the site visited several times, it was established that cyanide was the culprit. Dr. Redmon is a professor at Texas A&M where his profile states that he identifies and evaluates management strategies that allow beef cattle producers to reduce costs associated with pasture management, which increases the potential for positive cash flow. In other words, how to make the most money from feeding strategies. The profile also informs us that he conducts various educational programs state-wide in response to requests made by commodity groups and the industry. Hmmm.....
    http://terrimeredith.hubpages.com/hu...dGMO-Semantics
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    [SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000][B]DONNAY IS LYING! IT WAS NOT GM GRASS !!!!
    Nice to see you back..

    I don't worry about such here. no one locally is planting something that grows here without help.

    and I have never seen my neighbors using fertilizers (other than manure) or pesticides. But these are not the factory Farms.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    This is even more confusing as to why this is a problem. If the GM grass is so harmful that it kills the cows, then there will be no beef to sell to the consumers. The GM grass will all by itself limit the GM beef coming to market. If you ask me, I say that's a win. Also the cyanide aka zyklone B was an insecticide used to kill lice and was not used to protect the inmates not kill them. The author would dismiss govt proclamations about the safety on GMOs when it goes against him but easily swallows govt storyline about the Nazis when it works in his favor.
    That is not the same grass--- just an article pointing out when cattle ate modified Tifton 85 Bermuda Grass. The point that this stuff is being allowed with no safety evaluations and no consequences because they are being protected.



    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Also, the FDA, EPA, USDA etc etc already do all the controlling of the food supply already, so why reply on them for help? I really want to do something but I am not sure if there's anything I can even do to affect our current situation.
    The reason why we are in this predicament is because of the Biotech's in-bed with government. I do not want them controlling any of it and I want the people to demand transparency from these corporations or boycott them.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  26. #23

    So after hearing you bitch for 7 awful $#@!ing years that plant modification achieved with hybrid breeding techniques is NOT the same as GMO modification, now you're going to post some crap and insist that it is absolutely the same thing? But of course, you're not provide a shred of evidence to support that allegation.

    (And you're going to pat yourself on the back for "discovering" that prussic acid is another name for hydrogen cyanide, too? Priceless!)

    You should $#@!ing be banned.
    Last edited by angelatc; 12-14-2014 at 08:15 PM.

  27. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Nice to see you back..

    I don't worry about such here. no one locally is planting something that grows here without help.

    and I have never seen my neighbors using fertilizers (other than manure) or pesticides. But these are not the factory Farms.

    Last time I checked, cattle don't eat Kentucky Bluegrass as a matter of routine. It's a lawn grass, not a feed grass. But the anti-science people aren't big on facts or details.



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    Pesticide Companies Use Clever Loophole to Avoid Regulation of Genetically Modified Grass

    The biotechnology industry has found another use for pesticide-resistant gene technology by putting it in grass seeds, and in the process, completely avoided federal regulation of this new genetically engineered (GE) product.

    Soon, lawns and farms across America could consist of Scotts Roundup-Ready Kentucky Bluegrass (whether people want it or not), designed to withstand “massive amounts of Monsanto’s Roundup herbicide,” according to EcoWatch.

    Monsanto and Scotts managed to get their GE grass on the market without approval from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) due to loopholes in federal law.

    Ordinarily, GE crops come under federal regulation as long as they contain genetic material from “plant pests”—the beings that the gene manipulation are designed to resist.

    But Scotts decided to use DNA from other plants in creating the new kind of Kentucky bluegrass, along with other techniques that avoided triggering the USDA to step in and require testing, as well as its approval, before the grass could be sold to consumers.

    EcoWatch’s Charlotte Warren and Ronnie Cummins warn that because of bluegrass’ light pollen, the grass can easily spread to neighboring properties. Once it does, the GE version will genetically merge with existing grasses—including organic ones that farmers rely on to produce organic meat, for example.

    “As these seeds spread and more and more grass takes up that genetic trait, we’ll find organic farmers who want to grass feed their beef, can’t do it because their grass is genetically modified, which is prohibited in organic standards,” Bill Duesing of the Northeast Organic Farming Association wrote for CT News Junkie. “GMOs are pollution with a life of its own.”

    Warren and Cummins noted that research has shown that GE grass eaten by animals has a “devastating impact” on their health, whether they be “prized horses” or cattle raised for the meat market. The journalists also predict that the use of GE grass will lead to increased use of the widely used herbicide Roundup, which contains the ingredient glyphosate, said to cause numerous diseases, from Parkinson’s to cancer.

    http://www.allgov.com/news/controver...28?news=853262
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Last time I checked, cattle don't eat Kentucky Bluegrass as a matter of routine. It's a lawn grass, not a feed grass. But the anti-science people aren't big on facts or details.
    Oh,, I am sure factory farms are growing feed.
    Just not up here.. nor in places like the Bundy Ranch,, that free range their stock.
    But I would expect such from corporate farms.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

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  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Again, you are not really a very good researcher. (That's because real research involves things like education and graduate degrees, not YouTube and Natural News.) You are just an ideologue propaganda machine, working for those that are lobbying to make the government take over the food.
    Wait a second! Isn't this the very same thing that you criticize The Collins for saying? Why would anyone not having a graduate degree be incapable of "real" research? That smells like an illogical-phallus-she or something.
    I have an autographed copy of Revolution: A Manifesto for sale. Mint condition, inquire within. (I don't sign in often, so please allow plenty of time for a response)

  32. #28
    The vaccinator likes not donnay. How strange

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Again, you are not really a very good researcher. (That's because real research involves things like education and graduate degrees, not YouTube and Natural News.) You are just an ideologue propaganda machine, working for those that are lobbying to make the government take over the food.

    Here's the original CBS story: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/grass-li...cattle-deaths/

    Here's a big fat correction at the bottom of the page:

    And here's a follow up story: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/grass-ti...hybrid-not-gm/



    But this won't stop you from repeating your lies over and over and over. The next time the subject of GM grass comes up, you'll pretend you didn't see this and you'l post it again, because that's just how you roll.

    YOu should be banned.
    Real research requires degrees? Lol.

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    The point that this stuff is being allowed with no safety evaluations and no consequences because they are being protected.
    This actually goes back as far as 2002 or 2003 as I recall. The company pulled the research because the products were not being contained and were getting loose. Of course, back in 05 or '06 U.S. Department of Agriculture announced that Scotts Miracle-Gro’s herbicide-resistant Kentucky bluegrass would be exempt from tests typically required of transgenic crops.

    Here is a report on that... U.S.D.A. Ruling on Bluegrass Stirs Cries of Lax Regulation

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