Adolf Hitler - Untold Story

[Demigod]

I haven't read Mein Kampf yet, but my understanding is that one of Hitler's agendas was to expand the territories, so I need verification that they actually lost key pieces of land. As I mentioned in my first post, I need to do some follow up research. I'm no expert on the WWs by any stretch, so before I take this information as truth, I want other sources that back up the claims.

Except for the swamps in Eastern Prussia,Germany lost almost nothing in means of important European territory,Germany was mostly punished financially and lost all of their colonies.But on the other hand Austro-Hungary as a multi-ethnic empire after its break up left a lot of German population in the various new countries and some of those countries like Czechoslovakia had a developed industry.Before WW II I can not say whether the Germans have been prosecuted,but after the war every German in Eastern Europe was either killed,deported to Germany or assimilated.
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[dannno]

I haven't read Mein Kampf yet, but my understanding is that one of Hitler's agendas was to expand the territories, so I need verification that they actually lost key pieces of land. As I mentioned in my first post, I need to do some follow up research. I'm no expert on the WWs by any stretch, so before I take this information as truth, I want other sources that back up the claims.

Ya I haven't really found anything in the video so far that makes me admire Hitler, he probably did want to expand his empire since he was surrounded by and competing with other expanding empires.

I'm not a huge fan of war and killing, Hitler reveled in it.. he wasn't a machine gunner tho, he liked to run messages around, capture enemies, etc..

Hitler liked jokes, except for sexual jokes and political jokes. I love sexual jokes and political jokes. Hitler didn't like drugs, abstract art or sex, he banned drugs, instituted smoking ordinances and made laws against homosexuality. They burned books and art. I love drugs and sex and am ok with people participating in homosexual activity.

However seeing what Germany was up against and the issues they faced does help me understand where some of his legitimate concerns and feelings came from and why he took certain actions and why the German population supported it.

[Ronin Truth]

National Socialism
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/...l-socialism-2/

Educational!

[mac_hine]

Below is an interesting video of a compilation of Hitler's speeches with English subtitles. Fascinating to listen to because he sounds like a run of the mill progressive. Did y'all know he admired FDR?

Of course, Roosevelt also had many loyal supporters. One of his admirers sent word to the White House encouraging the president to stand his ground and be proud of his "heroic efforts in the interests of the American people." The President's "successful battle against economic distress," wrote the German chancellor, Adolph Hitler, "is being followed by the entire German people with interest and admiration."

The Surprising History of What Europe's Dictators Thought of the New Deal, http://www.alternet.org/story/151563...eal?page=0%2C0

[erowe1]

Hitler get's a lot of bad press.

uhhh

[Chester Copperpot]

this film is complete pro-axis propaganda.. it whitewashes every transgression of the nazis and japs while completely illuminating those of the allies. War is never good.. bad things happen.. but this purports Hitler to be a saint. its bogus

[otherone]

this purports Hitler to be a saint. its bogus

bad childhood.

[dannno]

this film is complete pro-axis propaganda.. it whitewashes every transgression of the nazis and japs while completely illuminating those of the allies. War is never good.. bad things happen.. but this purports Hitler to be a saint. its bogus

But wait a minute, we've been taught about the atrocities Hitler and the Japanese committed our entire lives... What's wrong with having ONE film that does the opposite?? Admittedly I'm still only about half way thru, but I still haven't seen where the film glorifies Hitler - it does EXPLAIN why Hitler did some of the things he did by showing the atrocities that were being committed against the Germans and explaining the background behind the agreements with the British and the Zionists.... I dunno basically my take out of the whole thing so far was that Hitler was crazy and evil, but maybe only as or possibly even less crazy and evil than Stalin and probably even Churchill.

I'm not a fan of National Socialism at all, but at least it's an ethos.

[Ronin Truth]

Leftists Become Incandescent When Reminded of the Socialist Roots of Nazism

[FloralScent]

But wait a minute, we've been taught about the atrocities Hitler and the Japanese committed our entire lives... What's wrong with having ONE film that does the opposite?? Admittedly I'm still only about half way thru, but I still haven't seen where the film glorifies Hitler - it does EXPLAIN why Hitler did some of the things he did by showing the atrocities that were being committed against the Germans and explaining the background behind the agreements with the British and the Zionists.... I dunno basically my take out of the whole thing so far was that Hitler was crazy and evil, but maybe only as or possibly even less crazy and evil than Stalin and probably even Churchill.

I'm not a fan of National Socialism at all, but at least it's an ethos.

Hitler's biggest crime was his meddling in military affairs, and he pretty much sealed the fate of Europe in doing so. He had the chance to stomp the fledgling NWO into the dust and he blew it. Had he left the execution of that war to von Manstein, history would read very differently.

[Anti-Neocon]

I will not watch that video because nothing will ever convince me that Hitler was good. Also I am not too happy about Nazi scientist being brought to the USA.

Your position on Hitler/the Holocaust must be extremely strong if you won't allow it to be challenged.

[erowe1]

Your position on Hitler/the Holocaust must be extremely strong if you won't allow it to be challenged.

Or she just has a good BS detector.

[Anti-Neocon]

Or she just has a good BS detector.

That's an extremely special BS detector - one that can detect BS before even seeing it.

[erowe1]

That's an extremely special BS detector - one that can detect BS before even seeing it.

Nope. That's a pretty normal BS detector. Smart folks don't need to go wasting their time gobbling up every tall tale they come across just so they can figure out they shouldn't believe them.

[Anti-Neocon]

Nope. That's a pretty normal BS detector. Smart folks don't need to go wasting their time gobbling up every tall tale they come across just so they can figure out they shouldn't believe them.

Smart folks should at least take the effort to acquaint themselves with both sides of an issue before advocating for a particular side.

As for WWII, it is foolish to accept at face value the stories told by the Communist Soviets, who were particularly keen of propaganda.

It's kind of ironic how much blind faith of Communist government stories we see on a liberty-oriented forum.

[erowe1]

Smart folks should at least take the effort to acquaint themselves with both sides of an issue before advocating for a particular side.

As for WWII, it is foolish to accept at face value the stories told by the Communist Soviets, who were particularly keen of propaganda.

The thread isn't about WW2 in general. It's about Hitler.

Hopefully you don't waste too much time acquainting yourself with the other side of the issue about the Earth being round before committing to the position that it is.

[Anti-Neocon]

The thread isn't about WW2 in general. It's about Hitler.

Hopefully you don't waste too much time acquainting yourself with the other side of the issue about the Earth being round before committing to the position that it is.

Great false equivalence there. WE can prove the Earth is round if we wish to. The tools to do so are accessible to you or I.

Now you go and tell me how I can prove to myself the truthfulness of the Soviet line regarding Hilter and the Holocaust.

Otherwise, your post is fallacious rubbish.

[Ronin Truth]

National Socialism

By Charles Burris

December 10, 2014

Daniel Hannan’s excellent overview article describing the common collectivist roots of internationalist Marxist Socialism and German National Socialism is a topic that bears constant repetition to the attentive public. The subject has received previous detailed exposure in vital works such as Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn’s Leftism: from de Sade and Marx to Hitler and Marcuse, and Jonah Goldberg’s Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change. I contributed a brief piece myself on the subject at LRC a number of years ago. In the above superb documentary, The Soviet Story,this symbiotic relationship is forcefully driven home. In particular, check out George Watson, author of The Lost Literature of Socialism (beginning at 14:15) who Hannan used as one of his primary reference sources. The brief segment comparing and contrasting contemporary German National Socialist propaganda posters with those of Soviet Union (with the Internationale playing in the background) is one of the most amazing examples of film editing I have witnessed. I will be soon showing this superb documentary once again to my World History students next semester in January. I strongly urge you purchase it and the above mentioned books.

The Best of Charles Burris

Charles A. Burris [send him mail] teaches history in the Murray N. Rothbard Room at Memorial High School in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/12/c...nal-socialism/

[willwash]

Except for the swamps in Eastern Prussia,Germany lost almost nothing in means of important European territory,Germany was mostly punished financially and lost all of their colonies.But on the other hand Austro-Hungary as a multi-ethnic empire after its break up left a lot of German population in the various new countries and some of those countries like Czechoslovakia had a developed industry.Before WW II I can not say whether the Germans have been prosecuted,but after the war every German in Eastern Europe was either killed,deported to Germany or assimilated.
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It's important to understand the pan-germanism that defined the nazi philosophy as well. For thousands of years "Germany" was a loose fragmentation of small, weak principalities, often a single castle and the range at which you could shoot a narrow from it. When Hitler took power in Germany, he saw it has his objective to unite all ethnic Germans under one flag, a process begun, but not finished, by Bismarck in the 19th century. This is actually what the nazi slogan "Deutschland uber alles" meant. It was not an ethnocentric jab at the rest of the world as is commonly taught...it was a rallying cry to ethnic Germans of this or that territory (at one point there were hundreds of tiny principalities) to put grossdeutschland--greater Germany--ahead of local loyalties, so that Germany could attain to the international power enjoyed by England and France.
This required territorial acquisitions in many countries, many of which were obtained peacefully, eg the Austrian Anschluss, the Ruhr valley, and the Sudetenland of Czechoslovakia. The international community drew the line at Danzig, however...Germany was becoming too powerful to be tolerated. Over centuries and many, many wars, a delicate balance if power respected by the big powers of England, France, and Spain had developed. Germany smashed onto the scene in the late 19 th century and messed all that up. Spain was kind of irrelevant at that point, but England and France saw the emerging German threat as a common enemy.

[BV2]

Hitler was a piece of $#@!. A real totalitarian scum bag. If there is an untold story it is of the dangers of statism, and nothing more. As a statist ruler, Hitler's name appears beside such paragons as: Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao. There is no redeeming him, unless it is in the eyes of a statist. If that is the case, is redemption even necessary?

[Chester Copperpot]

But wait a minute, we've been taught about the atrocities Hitler and the Japanese committed our entire lives... What's wrong with having ONE film that does the opposite?? Admittedly I'm still only about half way thru, but I still haven't seen where the film glorifies Hitler - it does EXPLAIN why Hitler did some of the things he did by showing the atrocities that were being committed against the Germans and explaining the background behind the agreements with the British and the Zionists.... I dunno basically my take out of the whole thing so far was that Hitler was crazy and evil, but maybe only as or possibly even less crazy and evil than Stalin and probably even Churchill.

I'm not a fan of National Socialism at all, but at least it's an ethos.

Theres nothing "wrong" with it, except that it is just as much bull$#@! as the $#@! the other side says about stuff...

[Ronin Truth]

“Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.”

[Anti-Neocon]

I think "malleability" may be a better word than "power". The true power lies in the hands of the mass media and those who have the money to buy influence.

[usa]

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[usa]

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[usa]

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[RonPaul4Prez2012]

I waited around for awhile to watch this but I never knew that this was so in depth and important. Its easily to this date the most important movie I have ever seen. If you have not seen it I highly recommend that you watch all of it. We have been lied to about so much in the past and I'm glad that this clears the air on so many past occurrences.

[orenbus]

I waited around for awhile to watch this but I never knew that this was so in depth and important. Its easily to this date the most important movie I have ever seen. If you have not seen it I highly recommend that you watch all of it. We have been lied to about so much in the past and I'm glad that this clears the air on so many past occurrences.

Out of curiosity why do you believe the material in this video more than what is taught in school history books? If it's an issue of not trusting what many would consider established history, how do you trust one source vs. an other without yourself having first hand knowledge of the events?

[VIDEODROME]

6 hours?

[Schifference]

Out of curiosity why do you believe the material in this video more than what is taught in school history books? If it's an issue of not trusting what many would consider established history, how do you trust one source vs. an other without yourself having first hand knowledge of the events?

Credibility of the historical establishment teachings?