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    Background checks expected to slip past FBI as Black Friday gun sales skyrocket



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    Black Friday, the biggest retail day in the US, has been a boon for gun sales in recent years – but that’s a problem for the small FBI division handling background checks, as more sales slip through the cracks each year.

    Typically, the 500 men and women checking the criminal and mental histories of potential buyers can keep up with demand. But on the busiest shopping day of the year, Black Friday, they are swamped by approximately 145,000 background check requests.

    Combined with the fact that they are also up against a tight deadline – with only three business days to carry out the check before the gun is released for sale – their job becomes even tougher. Last year, they failed to process two percent of the 145,000 requests, meaning close to 3,000 guns were sold without a background check. This year, the FBI is hiring 100 more personnel to deal with the onslaught.

    "We have a perfect storm coming," FBI manager Kimberly Del Greco told AP.


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    The whole idea behind background checks is that you can allow people that are a deadly threat to their fellow citizens to walk free and somehow make that okay by making everyone else prove to the clerk at the sporting goods store that they are not one of the dangerous people the government has released. It is idiotic on its face. Trying to make and enforce rules establishing different classes of citizen will never work and just invites ever-increasing government tracking of people.

    If people truly are too dangerous to own a gun, as determined with all due process and a trial by jury, they are too dangerous to be free. If they aren't really too dangerous, then leave them the $#@! alone.
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    Gun Sales Skyrocket on Black Friday


    by Truth Revolt | Rip Curl | November 30, 2014
    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/gun-...t-black-friday

    Gun sellers had a huge Black Friday according to the FBI, which said requests for background checks were coming in at three per second.

    More than 144,000 background checks will need to be performed after the the Friday sales, CNN reported Friday. The three-requests-per-second number is three times the daily average. Some 600 FBI and contract call center employees now must work 17-hour workdays to complete the background checks in three business days, as required by law, FBI spokesman Stephen Fischer said.

    “Traditionally, Black Friday is one of our busiest days for transaction volume,” Fischer told CNN.

    On average, more than 500 gun background checks a day fail because of incomplete information required for a decision, according to the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System, which is responsible for checks on firearm purchases from federally licensed shops.

    “We are averaging three checks per second,” he said. “The challenge is to have staff keep up with this volume. We do that by limiting personal leave, asking employees to work extra shifts and re-utilizing former … employees to serve in NICS during this busy period.”
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    The whole idea behind background checks is that you can allow people that are a deadly threat to their fellow citizens to walk free and somehow make that okay by making everyone else prove to the clerk at the sporting goods store that they are not one of the dangerous people the government has released. It is idiotic on its face. Trying to make and enforce rules establishing different classes of citizen will never work and just invites ever-increasing government tracking of people.

    If people truly are too dangerous to own a gun, as determined with all due process and a trial by jury, they are too dangerous to be free. If they aren't really too dangerous, then leave them the $#@! alone.
    Released?
    or created.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    meaning close to 3,000 guns were sold without a background check
    OMG but without the background checks, criminals can get weapons!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    OMG but without the background checks, criminals can get weapons!
    But that would be illegal!
    The proper concern of society is the preservation of individual freedom; the proper concern of the individual is the harmony of society.

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    Here's the problem. It doesn't matter if they get to all the requests. There is still a log that will be checked, eventually.

    Had a family member tell me about one of his friends. He has a type 1 FFL. Has over $300k in firearms including full autos. He gets a call last week. FBI. You've got 30 minutes to come to your address or we go in without you present. Seems he bought something off the internet for a weapon that had gone through a middle-east shell company that was on their radar. They had a stack of papers 6 inches thick with all the info of every online communication he has ever made including e-mails. They made him open every gunsafe and checked every single serial number of every gun he owned. Even made a friend that he had loaned a hunting rifle to bring that over. They gave him some dings here and there about how some of his arms flirted with being out of law. Confiscated two pistol that he had modified for match shooting and told him to file paperwork and he would get them back in a year.

    Point is. They know.
    Last edited by phill4paul; 12-01-2014 at 01:22 PM.



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