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    Was Smedley Butler a "Founding Father" of the American police state?

    A lot of us here at RPFs (including myself) have enormous admiration for US Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler, most notably for his famous work "War Is a Racket" - which exists as both a booklet (the text of which can be found here: http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html) and a speech (a reenactment of which can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_EXqJ8f-0).

    That's why it was disappointing for me to learn of Butler's stint as "Director of Public Safety" in Philadelphia in the 1920s - as I discovered in an article referenced in another thread (h/t XNN: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post5712993). I guess it just goes to show what power can do to people. One of the best examples of this phenomenon is another man I admire enormously: Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson was at his brilliant greatest when speaking and acting in defiance of the Powers That Be - but when he was himself one of the Powers That Be ... not so much. It looks like the same is true of Smedley Butler, as well. To be fair, though, I'm not aware that Butler ever professed to be a "libertarian" of any kind - and so it may be that Butler (unlike Jefferson) at least escapes the taint of hypocrisy ...

    What say you?

    FTA "The Militarization of American Police Has Long Historical Roots": http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/143228
    The 1924 appointment of General Smedley Butler as chief of police in Philadelphia epitomized the militarization of American police institutions during the Progressive era. Known for turning the Haitian Gendarmerie into a powerful colonial instrument, Butler cracked down on corruption, promoted use of high-speed cars and new radio technology, set up an iron ring of semi-military posts around the city, and followed what he called a “pound policy”–ordering his men, armed with sawed-off shotguns, to raid speakeasies and suspected bootlegging institutions suddenly and repeatedly if necessary. During his tenure, police closed 2,566 speakeasies compared with only 220 in the preceding year. Claiming the best way to stop crime was to shoot criminals and make jails unbearable, Butler was replaced after he stormed the Ritz-Carleton, shutting down a debutante ball. One angry citizen compared him to a military dictator while another wrote that “military tactics which might do in Mexico and other places has no place in the administration of civil affairs.”
    Here is the relevant entry from Wikipedia (links and footnotes elided): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley..._Public_Safety
    At the urging of Butler's father, in 1924, the newly elected mayor of Philadelphia W. Freeland Kendrick asked him to leave the Marines to become the Director of Public Safety, the official in charge of running the city's police and fire departments. Philadelphia's municipal government was notoriously corrupt and Butler initially refused. Kendrick asked President Calvin Coolidge to intervene. Coolidge contacted Butler and authorized him to take the necessary leave from the Corps. At the request of the President, Butler served in the post from January 1924 until December 1925. He began his new job by assembling all 4,000 of the city police into the Metropolitan Opera House in shifts to introduce himself and inform them that things would change while he was in charge. He replaced corrupt police officers and, in some cases, switched entire units from one part of the city to another, undermining local protection rackets and profiteering.

    Within 48 hours of taking over, Butler organized raids on more than 900 speakeasies, ordering them padlocked and, in many cases, destroyed. In addition to raiding the speakeasies, he also attempted to eliminate other illegal activities: bootlegging, prostitution, gambling and police corruption. More zealous than he was political, he ordered crackdowns on the social elite's favorite hangouts, such as the Ritz-Carlton and the Union League, as well as on drinking establishments that served the working class. Although he was effective in reducing crime and police corruption, he was a controversial leader. In one instance he made a statement that he would promote the first officer to kill a bandit and stated, "I don't believe there is a single bandit notch on a policeman's guns [sic] in this city, go out and get some." Although many of the local citizens and police felt that the raids were just a show, the raids continued for several weeks.

    He implemented programs to improve city safety and security. He established policies and guidelines of administration, and developed a Philadelphia police uniform that resembled that of the Marine Corps. Other changes included military-style checkpoints into the city, bandit chasing squads armed with sawed-off shotguns, and armored police cars. The press began reporting on the good and the bad aspects of Butler's personal war on crime. The reports praised the new uniforms, the new programs and the reductions in crime but they also reflected the public's negative opinion of their new Public Safety director. Many felt that he was being too aggressive in his tactics and resented the reductions in their civil rights, such as the stopping of citizens at the city checkpoints. Butler frequently swore in his radio addresses, causing many citizens to suggest his behavior, particularly his language, was inappropriate for someone of his rank and stature. Some even suggested Butler acted like a military dictator, even charging that he wrongfully used active-duty Marines in some of his raids. Major R. A. Haynes, the federal Prohibition commissioner, visited the city in 1924, six months after Butler was appointed. He announced that "great progress" had been made in the city and attributed that success to Butler.

    Eventually Butler's leadership style and the directness of actions undermined his support within the community. His departure seemed imminent. Mayor Kendrick reported to the press, "I had the guts to bring General Butler to Philadelphia and I have the guts to fire him." Feeling that his duties in Philadelphia were coming to an end, Butler contacted General Lejeune to prepare for his return to the Marine Corps. Not all of the city felt he was doing a bad job, though, and when the news started to break that he would be leaving, people began to gather at the Academy of Music. A group of 4,000 supporters assembled and negotiated a truce between him and the mayor to keep him in Philadelphia for a while longer, and the President authorized a one year extension for him.

    Butler devoted much of his second year to executing arrest warrants, cracking down on crooked police and enforcing prohibition. On January 1, 1926, his leave from the Marine Corps ended and the President declined a request for a second extension. Butler received orders to report to San Diego and he prepared his family and his belongings for the new assignment. In light of his pending departure, Butler began to defy the Mayor and other key city officials. On the eve of his departure, he had an article printed in the paper stating his intention to stay and "finish the job". The mayor was surprised and furious when he read the press release the next morning and demanded his resignation. After almost two years in office, Butler resigned under pressure, stating later that "cleaning up Philadelphia was worse than any battle I was ever in."
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    Yup, a shameful part of Uncle Smedley's past.

    One angry citizen compared him to a military dictator while another wrote that “military tactics which might do in Mexico and other places has no place in the administration of civil affairs.”
    Keep in mind this happened in the early twenties, and his famous speeches and "War is a Racket" came ten years later, so all I can say is had some sort of epiphany.

    Because I find it hard to believe that a man who could "crack down" like he did in Philly, could say this:

    There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 11-26-2014 at 06:42 PM.

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    Apparently he didn't see a difference between a standing army and police either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yup, a shameful part of Uncle Smedley's past.

    Keep in mind this happened in the early twenties, and his famous speeches and "War is a Racket" came ten years later, so all I can say is had some sort of epiphany.

    Because I find it hard to believe that a man who could "crack down" like he did in Philly, could say this:
    There is some indication of that in "War Is a Racket":

    Quote Originally Posted by Smedley Butler
    For a great many years, as a soldier, I had a suspicion that war was a racket; not until I retired to civil life did I fully realize it. Now that I see the international war clouds gathering, as they are today, I must face it and speak out.
    Unfortunately, very few of those who set the Ring of Power upon their fingers ever seem able to take it off ...

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    “I spent thirty-three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yup, a shameful part of Uncle Smedley's past.



    Keep in mind this happened in the early twenties, and his famous speeches and "War is a Racket" came ten years later, so all I can say is had some sort of epiphany.

    Because I find it hard to believe that a man who could "crack down" like he did in Philly, could say this:
    ^This

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    There is some indication of that in "War Is a Racket":



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    I put the blame on Prohibition for the creation of the Police State.

    Sure,, a lot of people were involved,, but it was prohibition that created the problem.
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    Yes. And I don't believe he was reformed later in life.

    Smedley D. Butler and Prohibition Enforcement

    He demanded complete dictatorial power as condition for taking the Commissioner job, he expected unconditional personal loyalty, and implemented a regime of no-knock and warrantless raids.

    His problem with politicians stemmed from them being political. He felt betrayed because he thought he had a deal to run his fiefdom as he saw fit. Judges and politicians were a hindrance. The masses loved his iron fist as supported by the many letters sent to the Secretary of the Navy asking that he stay on in the position. Why even the KKK sent a letter supporting his works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XNavyNuke View Post
    Yes. And I don't believe he was reformed later in life.

    Smedley D. Butler and Prohibition Enforcement

    He demanded complete dictatorial power as condition for taking the Commissioner job, he expected unconditional personal loyalty, and implemented a regime of no-knock and warrantless raids.

    His problem with politicians stemmed from them being political. He felt betrayed because he thought he had a deal to run his fiefdom as he saw fit. Judges and politicians were a hindrance. The masses loved his iron fist as supported by the many letters sent to the Secretary of the Navy asking that he stay on in the position. Why even the KKK sent a letter supporting his works.

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    Prohibition was repealed in 1919. But War is a Racket wasn't published in 1935. So that doesn't go along with your "he didn't reform later in life" thesis.
    Last edited by jmdrake; 11-28-2014 at 10:02 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Prohibition was repealed in 1919. But War is a Racket wasn't published in 1935. So that doesn't go along with your "he didn't reform later in life" thesis.
    Actually, the 18th amendment establishing federal prohibition was ratified in 1919. It went into effect in 1920.

    Federal prohibition was not repealed until 1933, with the ratification of the 21st amendment.

    Butler was the DPS head-cracker in Philadelphia circa 1924 - so that's about 10 years from then to "War Is a Racket."

    So I guess the question is whether Butler's attitudes with respect to law enforcement evolved the way his attitude about war did.

    Does anyone know if he did or said anything that would clearly answer this question one way or the other?
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 11-28-2014 at 10:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    A lot of us here at RPFs (including myself) have enormous admiration for US Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler, most notably for his famous work "War Is a Racket" - which exists as both a booklet (the text of which can be found here: http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html) and a speech (a reenactment of which can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_EXqJ8f-0).

    That's why it was disappointing for me to learn of Butler's stint as "Director of Public Safety" in Philadelphia in the 1920s - as I discovered in an article referenced in another thread (h/t XNN: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post5712993). I guess it just goes to show what power can do to people. One of the best examples of this phenomenon is another man I admire enormously: Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson was at his brilliant greatest when speaking and acting in defiance of the Powers That Be - but when he was himself one of the Powers That Be ... not so much. It looks like the same is true of Smedley Butler, as well. To be fair, though, I'm not aware that Butler ever professed to be a "libertarian" of any kind - and so it may be that Butler (unlike Jefferson) at least escapes the taint of hypocrisy ...

    What say you?

    FTA "The Militarization of American Police Has Long Historical Roots": http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/143228


    Here is the relevant entry from Wikipedia (links and footnotes elided): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley..._Public_Safety
    What do you expect a soldier to do.He was trained his entire life to think like a soldier and fight the enemy.If you put him in charge of policing all that you are doing is giving him a new enemy in the people.The military needs to be socialist and ruthless by nature,no matter how noble soldiers tend to be terrible civil leaders.The most they can do in civil maters is having the foresight and strength to preserve the state from the inner enemies by a coup but they should never try to cling to the power and should give it back immediately.

    He was given an order to clean the city and from what I read he did his job.

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    Doesn't his son or something posts here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Actually, the 18th amendment establishing federal prohibition was ratified in 1919. It went into effect in 1920.

    Federal prohibition was not repealed until 1933, with the ratification of the 21st amendment.

    Butler was the DPS head-cracker in Philadelphia circa 1924 - so that's about 10 years from then to "War Is a Racket."

    So I guess the question is whether Butler's attitudes with respect to law enforcement evolved the way his attitude about war did.

    Does anyone know if he did or said anything that would clearly answer this question one way or the other?
    Okay. I screwed up my dates. But "War is a Racket" was still published after the repeal of prohibition. As to your latter question, I don't know. All I can say is that being a police state goon during prohibition goes right along with being a foreign interventionist goon. If he saw the light on one, one would think he would see the light on the other. Possible he didn't though.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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