Killings By Police in Utah Outpacing Gang, Drug, Child-Abuse, and Spousal Homicides.

[Anti Federalist]

How very appropriate, given the other thread on this topic.

Links to the data and related stories at link.



Killings By Police in Utah Outpacing Gang, Drug, Child-Abuse, and Spousal Homicides

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/kil...uYj5hrmsZ2p.99

Data from a five-year period is painting a disturbing picture of a deadly trend among Utah police officers.

Up until this year, killings by police officers ranked second only to homicide of intimate partners. However, this year, including a Saturday shooting in South Jordan, deadly force by police surpassed even violence between spouses and dating partners.

As police killings rise, more people are becoming aware and police watchdog groups are saying that it’s time we start treating deadly force by police as a potentially serious public safety problem. The Free Thought Project agrees.

“The numbers reflect that there could be an issue, and it’s going to take a deeper understanding of these shootings,” said Chris Gebhardt to the Salt Lake Tribune, a former police lieutenant and sergeant who served in Washington, D.C., and in Utah, including six years on SWAT teams and several training duties. “It definitely can’t be written off as citizen groups being upset with law enforcement.”

Only one single case of police deadly force in Utah has ever been deemed “unjustified” by prosecutors which was the 2012 shooting of Danielle Willard by West Valley City police.

The Tribune also spoke to Ian Adams, a West Jordan police officer and spokesman for the Utah Fraternal Order of Police who says, “Police are trained and expected to react to deadly threats. As many deadly threats emerge is the exact amount of times police will respond.”

“The onus is on the person being arrested to stop trying to assault and kill police officers and the innocent public. … Why do some in society continue to insist the problem lies with police officers?”

Apparently Adams is unaware of police tendencies to escalate an otherwise peaceful situation into violent one, at the drop of a hat.

As recent FBI data has shown, violence among citizens is at an all time low, while violence by police is at an all time high. To imply that police are justified in 100% of these killings is not only irresponsible but incredibly dangerous.

The death of another human being should be avoided at all costs and when it happens, regardless of whether or not the person wheres a badge, there should be a full investigation; by a third party.

“Sometimes the line between is it legal and is it necessary becomes difficult to distinguish,” criminal justice professor at Weber State University, Robert Wadman said. “In the judgment of the officer, ‘Is my life in jeopardy? Yes.’ At that point in time, they’re legally grounded in using deadly force. But the question is, is it necessary? That’s something that needs to be firmly addressed, for example, in training.”

Gang violence in America was once a national conversation and rightfully so. However, with the legalization of marijuana in several states, these cartels are diminishing and their once violent hold is slipping away. They no longer pose such a large threat.

Americans are less violent now than ever before, so why are we seeing an increase in police violence? If the recent events in Ferguson, MO and the heavy militarization among police forces nationwide, have taught this country anything, it’s that we are long overdue for a serious conversation about police reform.

[Anti Federalist]

And what I have been bitching and hollering about now for YEARS...

The Circular Force Continuum.

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‘Officers may use any force available’

The Peace Officer Standards and Training (POST) division of the Utah Department of Safety oversees, directly or indirectly, the basic training of all police recruits in Utah. At its four-month academy, cadets are introduced to the use-of-force continuum, a diagram showing officer force options — simply showing up at the scene; verbal commands, touching or holding a subject, pepper spray, police dogs, baton, Taser, or deadly force — arrayed in a circle for the officer’s selection.

"Officers may use any force available provided they can justify the reasonableness of force used," the manual states.

Adams maintains that officers in Utah typically use less force than may be justified.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/1842489-1...outpacing-gang

Just so everybody is clear on this:

The CFC maintains that a cop can use whatever force he deems reasonable to ensure his safety, including deadly force.

What that means in the real world is a cop can blow you away for twitching funny, making "furtive movements" or "menacing staring".

And the "reasonableness" of his action will be determined by...fellow cops.

Which is why, after years and hundreds of shootings in one sparsely populated state, ONLY ONE was ever determined to be "unreasonable".

Treat every encounter with a cop as potentially life threatening one, and avoid these criminal lunatics at all costs.

[invisible]

Gang violence in America was once a national conversation and rightfully so. However, with the legalization of marijuana in several states, these cartels are diminishing and their once violent hold is slipping away. They no longer pose such a large threat.

Wait a second. If this is true, then why are we still seeing the drug war propaganda claiming the opposite, especially in places that have had ballot initiatives? I'm pretty sure that even this very newspaper runs plenty of articles explaining why legalization in UT would be a bad idea.

[Anti Federalist]

Wait a second. If this is true, then why are we still seeing the drug war propaganda claiming the opposite, especially in places that have had ballot initiatives? I'm pretty sure that even this very newspaper runs plenty of articles explaining why legalization in UT would be a bad idea.

You answered yourself: "drug war propaganda".

The police state needs self justification.

So, the propaganda organs are organing.

[invisible]

You answered yourself: "drug war propaganda".

The police state needs self justification.

So, the propaganda organs are organing.

Yes, they do, otherwise there wouldn't be much of any justification for what they do.
Yes, always constantly grinding away.

Rhetorical question is rhetorical. It wasn't asked for your specific benefit, I know you know the answer.

[Zippyjuan]

According to State statistics, in 2012 they had one gang related homicide and seven listed as "domestic violence" and three from "child abuse". That is pretty low. (43 total homicides) http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/doc..._Utah_2012.pdf

[oyarde]

I have no idea , but would imagine police killings to out pace spousal homicides in many places .

[Zippyjuan]

According to FBI "Expanded Homicide" statistics, http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...10shrtbl10.xls

There were a total of 12,996 murder victims in 2010. Of those, 110 were husbands and 603 wives for a total of 713 or 5.5% of all murders. That makes the risk of being killed by a spouse slightly higher than the risk of being killed by a policeman but both are extremely rare given 12 million deaths a year.

[Anti Federalist]

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[Anti Federalist]

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[tod evans]

I have no idea , but would imagine police killings to out pace spousal homicides in many places .

Unlike kops that kill aren't most spouses actually justified?

[Henry Rogue]

According to State statistics, in 2012 they had one gang related homicide and seven listed as "domestic violence" and three from "child abuse". That is pretty low. (43 total homicides) http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/doc..._Utah_2012.pdf

Factor in how much time is spent with spouses compared to time in contact with police. It's like that thing I hear about, more dogs bite people each year than do sharks. I see dogs every day, never saw a shark.

[Anti Federalist]

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[Suzanimal]

Utah Cop Who Killed Unarmed Young Woman Rehired by City

The drug detective who killed Danielle Willard more than 2 1/2 years ago went back on West Valley City’s payroll Wednesday, though it’s not clear whether he will work as a police officer there. Shaun Cowley — who was fired in September 2013 — had been fighting to get his job back. But the city on Wednesday filed paperwork to dismiss Cowley’s administrative complaint over his termination.

His attorney, Lindsay Jarvis, said Cowley was reinstated as a West Valley City employee as of 2:30 p.m. Wednesday, when an administrative hearing officer signed the dismissal order.

More than two years after police shot and killed Danielle Willard during an undercover drug investigation, the city settled a wrongful-death lawsuit with the woman’s family for $1.425 million. West Valley City said in a statement that the settlement is not an admission of liability “but rather a compromise of disputed claims among the parties.” The settlement covered the city and the police officers who were named as defendants in the suit.

The Nov. 2, 2012, shooting sparked numerous protests and led Willard’s parents, Melissa Kennedy and Frederick Willard, to file the federal suit. Named as defendants were West Valley City; narcotics unit detectives Shaun Cowley and Kevin Salmon; their supervisor Lt. John Coyle; and then-police chief Thayle “Buzz” Nielsen.

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http://truthvoice.com/2015/06/utah-c...hired-by-city/

[Anti Federalist]

Factor in how much time is spent with spouses compared to time in contact with police. It's like that thing I hear about more dogs bite people each than sharks. I see dogs every day, never saw a shark.

Oh, I missed this last year.

Great point.