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Thread: CA - Parents sue cops after they grenade their 2 year old in wrong home raid

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    Exclamation CA - Parents sue cops after they grenade their 2 year old in wrong home raid

    Who are the terrorists again?


    2-Year-Old Hospitalized After Police Raid Wrong Home, Threw Grenade into His Bedroom

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/2-y...fCLgbdtLP1Y.99

    Ventura, CA — A 2-year-old boy was burned and hospitalized after police threw an explosive device directly into his room during a “no-knock” raid on the wrong home, despite being told by the parents that there was an infant in the room, according to a lawsuit.

    Jose and Paulina Salinas are suing the City of Oxnard and its police department, seeking damages for assault, battery, trespass, false imprisonment and infliction of emotional distress.

    According to Courthouse News, in their lawsuit, the Salinas family says they were sleeping on April 16, around 4 a.m., when they were awakened by scuffling footsteps and vehicles outside their condominium.

    When Jose Salinas drew the curtains of his bedroom window, he saw the barrel of a policeman’s gun pointed at him.

    Police broke the front windows of the home and set off three smoke bombs. Police then crashed through the front door with guns drawn, yelling, “Get down and put your hands to your head!

    With laser-mounted guns pointed at them, Paulina and Jose Salinas were handcuffed and put to their knees. Their 10-year-old daughter and 6-year-old son were shoved into a corner.

    As police approached one of the bedrooms, Paulina Salinas and her two older children told officers there was a 2-year-old in the room. Police ignored them, told them to cover their ears, and threw a smoke bomb into the room as 2-year-old Justin Salinas stood near the door.

    When the smoke bomb detonated, shrapnel from the blast hit Justin in the foot, causing first-degree burns and glass cuts.

    The 2-year-old was brought the the hospital and treated for his injuries.


    This incident was confirmed by a press release from the Oxnard Police Department released shortly after the incident in April.

    The press release reported that a 2-year-old boy had been injured during a “multi-location search warrant operation” conducted by several agencies to combat gang activity.

    “At one of the search warrant locations, a 2-year old sustained minor injuries,” the statement said. “The child was transported to a local hospital, where he was treated and released.”

    After the initial horror of the raid, the family was detained for four hours despite there being “no resemblance of any claimant to any of the previous tenants at the location,” according to the complaint.

    Police were apparently looking for an individual who lived in the house at least four months prior to the Salinas family, according to the report.

    The Salinas family is now dealing with the physical and emotional stress of this traumatic experience. They now feel that their home is a dangerous place to live and are “scared to death and rattled by any noise they hear at night.”

    Justin is “afraid of the dark and of people in general,” while the other two children “suffer recurring nightmares, and are terrified of sleeping alone,” the lawsuit states.
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    Sometimes mistakes are made, but everything was done legally.


    "There's got to be a way for us to hold ourselves accountable absent putting cops in jail for making mistakes," he said.
    "IF GOD DIDN'T WANT TO HELP AMERICA, THEN WE WOULD HAVE Hillary Clinton"!!
    "let them search you,touch you,violate your Rights,just don't be a dick!"~ cdc482
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    All my life I've been at the mercy of men just following orders... Never again!~Erik Lehnsherr
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    Deja vu.
    Those who want liberty must organize as effectively as those who want tyranny. -- Iyad el Baghdadi

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    Quote Originally Posted by aGameOfThrones View Post
    Sometimes mistakes are made, but everything was done legally.
    There is, you moron (talking to the quoted cop, not you). Any time any "cop" uses his state-sanctioned badge to cause injury to an innocent, he should be put to death. Done. Period.
    This post represents only the opinions of Christian Liberty and not the rest of the forum. Use discretion when reading

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    Warlike behavior is war...

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    Excellent, there needs to be serious lawsuits over crap like this. Police need to walk on eggshells when they carry out these no-knock raids and make sure they have the right damn house, the way it is now I think their attitude is "Oh well, uh-nudder day at work... ooops, wrong house, sorry folks."

    They need to know saying sorry wont cut it.
    Summum Jus, Summa Iniuria - More Law, Less Justice

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    The press release reported that a 2-year-old boy had been injured during a “multi-location search warrant operation” conducted by several agencies to combat gang activity.
    Police were apparently looking for an individual who lived in the house at least four months prior to the Salinas family, according to the report.
    No f*cks are given.....

    1). Don't live in an area where zero'dark thirty SWAT entries are common. Simple. If economic events require you to live there, work as much as you can (you can get by on 4 hours of sleep) and make enough money that you can go live in a normal neighborhood where the Ghetto bird and sirens are a rare event not an hourly thing.

    I can hear it now, "Ohhhhh....Gabe is a racist". Whatever. I am past caring what irrelevant people call me. Me....I call myself a realist. Argue with me successfully about how many SWAT entries per capita there are in Bel Air as opposed to Nickerson Gardens.
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-of-a-SWAT-cop



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    i think its safe to say that Integrity, Honor, and a basic sense of humanity and intelligence, is not something that is a requirement to being in Law Enforcement.

    Until this ATTITUDE is changed, we will see worse story's than this one....far worse.

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    If they are too chicken to just knock on the door
    in daylight hours, hire someone else, or send
    an unarmed robot to ask about who lives there
    before turning the place into a bloodbath only
    a few minutes later.

    It's insane.

    Maybe personal responsibility/liability for injury/damages
    would help get the "authorities" under control again.

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    This family has learned a valuable lesson about how and when to obey. If they cancel the lawsuit, then they are truly ready for a Brave New America.
    No one here wanted to be the Billionaire.

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    How is this $#@!ing possible after Baby Bou in Georgia? It's the same goddamn story!
    Non-violence is the creed of those that maintain a monopoly on force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indy Vidual View Post
    This family has learned a valuable lesson about how and when to obey. If they cancel the lawsuit, then they are truly ready for a Brave New America.
    The lawsuit will "settle", I don't recall ever seeing one go to a jury.......

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    the BLACK ARMY rides on..BEHOLD! they are become DEATH!
    Last edited by jkr; 11-20-2014 at 08:32 PM.
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

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    The press release reported that a 2-year-old boy had been injured during a “multi-location search warrant operation” conducted by several agencies uniformed gangs to combat gang activity.
    FTFT
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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    Quote Originally Posted by amy31416 View Post
    Deja vu.
    all over again...



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    Quote Originally Posted by limequat View Post
    How is this $#@!ing possible after Baby Bou in Georgia? It's the same goddamn story!
    Actually, the injuries are much less, but the misconduct is far more egregious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    all over again...
    And before these two cases there was the 12 year old girl somewhere who got flash-banged while sleeping during a wrong door raid , and the girl in Detroit who was flash-banged then shot in the head. And this case is only making news because of the lawsuit -- who knows how many similar cases have gone without media attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    Actually, the injuries are much less, but the misconduct is far more egregious.
    Yes, thankfully this little boy did not suffer injuries nearly as bad as Baby Bou Bou did.

    The grenade went off near his foot as opposed to blowing half his face off.


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    Alright we need to dig up pics of the kid. It's not real until people see the face.
    Non-violence is the creed of those that maintain a monopoly on force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
    the BLACK AMY rides on..BEHOLD! they are become DEATH!
    :blinks:
    Those who want liberty must organize as effectively as those who want tyranny. -- Iyad el Baghdadi

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    Quote Originally Posted by limequat View Post
    Alright we need to dig up pics of the kid. It's not real until people see the face.
    Nothing in the news until the lawsuit was filed.

    This happens all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Nothing in the news until the lawsuit was filed.

    This happens all the time.
    Newz is generated ONLY from approved sources such as police spokesman and court clerks....

    Newz about government operations that is..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinTime View Post
    Excellent, there needs to be serious lawsuits over crap like this. Police need to walk on eggshells when they carry out these no-knock raids and make sure they have the right damn house, the way it is now I think their attitude is "Oh well, uh-nudder day at work... ooops, wrong house, sorry folks."

    They need to know saying sorry wont cut it.
    Is there a way to sue the cops for their personal assets?
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Is there a way to sue the cops for their personal assets?
    Not if they are covered under "qualified immunity." Which is why you will always see a payout without an admission of any wrongdoing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Is there a way to sue the cops for their personal assets?
    No, as Phill already mentioned, they are a protected class of Super Citizens.

    If they are smart enough to do, whatever is they are going to do, while in uniform, they will almost always skate.



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