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Thread: Beefed up iPhone crypto will lead to a child dying, DOJ warned Apple execs

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    Beefed up iPhone crypto will lead to a child dying, DOJ warned Apple execs

    The No. 2 official at the Justice Department recently warned top Apple executives that stronger encryption protections added to iPhones would lead to a horrific tragedy, such as a child dying, because police couldn't access a suspect's device, The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday.

    The beefed up protections, Apple recently disclosed, mean that even when company officials are served with a court order, they will be unable to retrieve potentially crucial evidence such as photos, messages, or contacts stored on iPhones and iPads. Instead, the data can be accessed only by people who know the passcode that serves as the encryption key.

    Justice Department officials wasted no time objecting to the changes and used the scenario of a child being kidnapped and murdered to drive home their claim that Apple was "marketing to criminals." According to the WSJ, Justice Department officials including Deputy Attorney General James Cole met with Apple General Counsel Bruce Sewell and two other company employees on October 1. Reporters Devlin Barrett, Danny Yadron, and Daisuke Wakabayashi gave the following account, which they attributed to the recollections of people who attended.

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    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...d-apple-execs/



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    Love the comments. People are tired of their BS.

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    Smells rotten.

    Not like an Apple.

    It smells of guber-road-apple.

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    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ight-years-ago

    post 21

    QED

    (off to read comments - this should be good!)

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    Apple: We gave you backdoor access.
    DoJ: Thanks, we'd still like to act as if we don't have access. You want some money for playing along?
    Apple: Of course we would.

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    Department of JUST-US


    Maybe they should spend their time helping out the massive increase in homeless children? Nah... that doesn't fit their J Egar Hoover freak show of spying on everyone, anyone, anytime... because the U.S. Constitution is a God Damn piece of paper... according to some politicians/government workers.
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    You mean they actually used the line, "It's for the children!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mani View Post
    You mean they actually used the line, "It's for the children!!"
    Go to C-SPAN video archive (which is poorly transcribed but indexed) and type in "It's for the children"

    Then try that in Goggle...

    -t
    Last edited by tangent4ronpaul; 11-20-2014 at 07:21 AM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by muh_roads View Post
    Apple: We gave you backdoor access.
    DoJ: Thanks, we'd still like to act as if we don't have access. You want some money for playing along?
    Apple: Of course we would.
    And that's why some version of this will be my next smartphone. Behold the Raspberry PiPhone!

    http://www.davidhunt.ie/piphone-a-ra...ed-smartphone/


    Seriously. The only way to make sure you don't get backdoored is to build the dang thing yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twomp View Post
    Crickets when it comes to actual children the State attacks--the 19 month old in Georgia and the 2 year old in California.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    And that's why some version of this will be my next smartphone. Behold the Raspberry PiPhone!

    http://www.davidhunt.ie/piphone-a-ra...ed-smartphone/


    Seriously. The only way to make sure you don't get backdoored is to build the dang thing yourself.
    lol, I like it. It will get better.

    Until then, Android L is the far safer option due to them being open-source. Some systems may not be (I dunno), but Android is still far more open than iOS. Apple has aligned with the devil and should always be avoided.

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    "But, but , if it saves just one child! " . I've seen ads on NBC for some new show where one character says to the other something like "how many rights are we going to violate?". And the other one says "it depends on how many lives you want to save." There it is right there, you have to give up freedoms for security and safety.



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