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    President Obama To Dictate Immigration Executive Order In Vegas On Friday

    When Obama uses his pen, it's time for Americans to open their wallets.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-1...r-vegas-friday

    While what normally happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas; President Obama's decision to dictate his Immigration Executive Order from sin city will likely have repurcussions across the entire nation. As NY Times reports, Obama is preparing to use his executive authority to provide work permits for up to five million people who are in the US illegally, and to shield them from deportation. But these new arrivals will not receive one key benefit: government subsidies for health care available under Obamacare. The immigrants would also be unlikely to receive benefits like food stamps, Medicaid coverage or other need-based federal programs offered to citizens and to some legal residents. "The costs of extending these programs to millions of low-wage illegal immigrants would be enormous," said Senator Jeff Sessions "this is yet another danger posed to Americans by the president’s unconstitutional action."

    A Democratic official says President Barack Obama will visit Las Vegas on Friday.

    The trip comes amid anticipation that the president will announce executive orders on immigration as soon as this week. Obama used a stop in Las Vegas in 2013 to outline his blueprint for immigration legislation.

    Legislation passed in the Senate, but gained no traction in the Republican-led House. Obama announced this summer that he would instead move forward with executive action on immigration, but delayed the measures until after the midterm election.

    People familiar with the president's proposals say the policy could shield from deportation as many as 5 million people in the country illegally, and grant them work permits.

    The official insisted on anonymity because this person wasn't authorized to confirm the president's trip by name.
    But, as The NY Times reports, it appears the immigrants won't get the entire largesse of American dependency...

    Millions of undocumented immigrants who are set to be granted a form of legal status by President Obama as early as this week will not receive one key benefit: government subsidies for health care available under the Affordable Care Act.

    Mr. Obama is preparing to use his executive authority to provide work permits for up to five million people who are in the United States illegally, and to shield them from deportation. But an official familiar with the administration’s deliberations said on Tuesday that such people would not be eligible for subsidized, low-cost plans from the government’s health insurance marketplace, HealthCare.gov.

    ...

    The decision would reflect the political sensitivities that arise when there is a collision between two of the most divisive issues in Washington: health care and immigration. It would also underline the White House preference for not risking the fury of conservative lawmakers who have long opposed providing government health care to illegal immigrants, and who fought intensely to deny such immigrants coverage under the Affordable Care Act.

    ...

    But a White House decision to deny health care benefits to the immigrants would also fall far short of the kind of full membership in American society that activists have spent decades fighting for. The immigrants would also be unlikely to receive benefits like food stamps, Medicaid coverage or other need-based federal programs offered to citizens and to some legal residents.
    However, Sylvia Mathews Burwell, the secretary of health and human services, said that
    federal aid — including health care benefits — could be available to children who are United States citizens but living with parents who are illegal immigrants. Such so-called mixed families “should not be scared,” she said, because they may be eligible for coverage and financial assistance.
    [...]
    We leave it to Senator Jeff Session of Alabama - the senior Republican on the Senate Budget Committee to conclude:

    "The costs of extending these programs to millions of low-wage illegal immigrants would be enormous... This is yet another danger posed to Americans by the president’s unconstitutional action."

    “It is plain that President Obama has no authority to grant lawful status to those declared unlawful by the duly passed laws of the United States,” he said. “Nor does the president have any authority to declare such individuals eligible to receive health benefits that have been restricted to lawful residents.”
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock



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    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-1...n-it-announced

    Ahead of President Obama's address to the nation tomorrow to dictate his executive orders on immigration, potentially allowing millions of undocumented immigrants to stay legally in the US, a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds nearly half of Americans disapprove of his plan. Only a dismal 38% support the President taking this executive action... which makes us wonder if there has ever been so much revulsion at the policies of a standing President. It's good to be king.

    As NBC News reports,

    Forty-eight percent oppose Obama taking executive action on immigration -- which could come as soon as later this week -- while 38 percent support it; another 14 percent have no opinion or are unsure.

    ...

    Not surprisingly, these numbers largely break along partisan lines: 63 percent of Democrats approve of Obama taking executive action here, versus just 11 percent of Republicans and 37 percent of independents.

    Latinos are divided, with 43 percent supporting the action and 37 percent opposing it.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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    This is how "WWE DC" get slave labor levels across America.

    Amazing how the Fascist US Chamber of Commerce and the GOP are/will sit back behind closed doors and toast 'MISSION ACCOMPLISH' right after Obama signs away the citizens of this country. GOP get their crony corporatism cheap labor and campaign contributions or future executive jobs, Obama gets his millions in Democrat voting welfare/hooked on .gov public assistance, while keeping the country divided among racial and economic lines. I'm sure you'll find team Blue vs. team Red Kabuki Theater for the dumb down proletariat to give the impression of caring for American citizens.

    Lame Duck presidents are the most dangerous... look for future sellouts by Obama, of course this will fund his future monument, $1/4 Billion presidential library, built by those recipients of stolen taxpayer's loot, via the usual government payola/racketeering operations. Clinton proof (NAFTA, selling TOP SECRET technologies to the Chinese/CFR, NWO, etc) Dubya Bush (Military-Security Industrial Complex, WAR machine, NWO, as well as the corporate energy sector)

    Some things never end, but the trend is even more frightening, as they're getting worse for the people/taxpayers and an consecrating Borg for the ruling class.

    PS: Con Artists Jim "CRAPSHOOT" Cramer, part of the pump monkeys on CNBC, said this morning about Obama's Amnesty announcement coming from Las Vegas later this week. "Immigrates are needed for the next housing boom..."

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/102183389

    I presume, ever increasing more is needed in the front end to payoff the back end... now why does that sound familiar?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucille View Post
    Millions of undocumented immigrants who are set to be granted a form of legal status by President Obama as early as this week will not receive one key benefit: government subsidies for health care available under the Affordable Care Act.

    Mr. Obama is preparing to use his executive authority to provide work permits for up to five million people who are in the United States illegally, and to shield them from deportation. But an official familiar with the administration’s deliberations said on Tuesday that such people would not be eligible for subsidized, low-cost plans from the government’s health insurance marketplace, HealthCare.gov.
    No Obamacare? Damn, that sounds like a pretty sweet deal!
    Where do I sign up to become one of these "legal undocumented immigrants" ... ?
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    I knew this was going to happen soon, as nothing Obama would love better than to get Freddie Gruber off the top news story on FOX ... ABC, NBC and CBS barely covering the truth that Obama straight up lied to the Congress (the stupid Americans), to ram Obamacare through. My prediction is Obama's speech tomorrow night, and the next morning Ferguson erupts to get Obama's executive order off the front page. Homeland Security already set up in underground parking lots at Ferguson to get everything started. Obama has become too laughable and predictable these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    I knew this was going to happen soon, as nothing Obama would love better than to get Freddie Gruber off the top news story on FOX ... ABC, NBC and CBS barely covering the truth that Obama straight up lied to the Congress (the stupid Americans), to ram Obamacare through. My prediction is Obama's speech tomorrow night, and the next morning Ferguson erupts to get Obama's executive order off the front page. Homeland Security already set up in underground parking lots at Ferguson to get everything started. Obama has become too laughable and predictable these days.
    I bet you are right

    -t

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    What an appropriate place for him to gamble our future away.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Let me get this right - from a illegal immigrants perspective:

    OK, so I sign up for a work permit and I loose my free health care, housing, food stamps and education and get to pay taxes... (but I get to vote dem!!!)

    Lemme thunk...

    DANG! - this is going to be more popular than Obamacare!

    On the plus side the repubs are threatening to shut down the government via purse strings if he does.

    -t



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    Will Obama be making the announcement at one of Sheldon Adelson's casinos?

    Let’s Deal With Reality and Pass Immigration Reform
    By SHELDON G. ADELSON - June 19, 2014
    ...
    As a Republican, it’s my view that efforts to complete immigration reform should be led by our party. Some on the outer fringes of the GOP may disagree, but the truth is we are humans first and partisans second. Frankly, the Democrats don’t have a monopoly on having hearts.

    While I do not practice or promote illegal behavior, the reality is that 11 million illegal immigrants are currently in this country.
    ...
    Most of the immigrants who are here illegally came for the same reason as those who are here legally—a chance to make a better life for themselves and their families. They came heeding the famous words of poet Emma Lazarus that have welcomed generations of immigrants, including my parents, to the United States as they pass the Statue of Liberty and her golden torch: “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free … Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me.”
    ...
    Let’s start by instituting a process in which all undocumented immigrants receive permits to legally work here. Let’s provide them with the opportunity to get driver’s licenses and bank accounts—simple things that we all take for granted. The immigrants here illegally need jobs, want to work and are willing to take on jobs that are not appealing to many Americans. Additionally, many of them are exploited because of their illegal status in this country.
    ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    I knew this was going to happen soon, as nothing Obama would love better than to get Freddie Gruber off the top news story on FOX ... ABC, NBC and CBS barely covering the truth that Obama straight up lied to the Congress (the stupid Americans), to ram Obamacare through. My prediction is Obama's speech tomorrow night, and the next morning Ferguson erupts to get Obama's executive order off the front page. Homeland Security already set up in underground parking lots at Ferguson to get everything started. Obama has become too laughable and predictable these days.
    That's always the game plan when something incriminating or embarrassing exposure these criminals and their failed organizations within the Washington DC beltway.

    "Freddie Gruber"... now that's funny.
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    Is it any surprise that a story about a reporter questioning an alleged rape victim has 4 times the comments as impending unlawful dictates that will affect hundreds of millions of people?

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    Oblahblah is going to speechify on it tonight.

    http://reason.com/blog/2014/11/20/am...-executive-act

    President Barack Obama will announce his plan to take unilateral executive action on immigration in a primetime speech tonight.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    Didn't realize the country belonged exclusively to whites.
    Usually white countries are a lot better off and "safe", which is why more immigrants make their way into EU, australia, usa, canada. Once in these countries, the ones that can good a good job will move from a neighborhood that is predominantly populated by people of similar ethnic origin to a white neighborhood.

    I am Chinese and it has been a pleasure to live in the usa.

    I am against the new world order and the planning of a north American union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post

    PS: Con Artists Jim "CRAPSHOOT" Cramer, part of the pump monkeys on CNBC, said this morning about Obama's Amnesty announcement coming from Las Vegas later this week. "Immigrates are needed for the next housing boom..."

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/102183389

    I presume, ever increasing more is needed in the front end to payoff the back end... now why does that sound familiar?

    In fairness to Jim Cramer, he prefaced those comments by noting that he wasn't going to get in to the politics of the issue at all, just the potential investment opportunity it presented. And he alluded to the idea that these sorts of people buying homes contributed to the first housing bubble before he sort of corrected himself and avoided offering that particular thought crime. So this was not an expression of approval. He's just pointing out (probably correctly) that it could cause a short term bubble in the housing market and that might provide an investment opportunity.

    In fact, Cramer is on our side when it comes to immigration. He has called out the Democratic Party for their insanity of promoting amnesty at a time of crippling unemployment. He's accused politicians of favoring the interests of foreign workers over the American people, and he's wondered aloud why everybody pretends that the laws of supply and demand don't apply to labor.

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    Statewide protests planned in Nevada

    Statewide protests being planned. I hope they are out in the streets blocking traffic like Times Square on New Years Eve!
    (Any Nevadan Tea Partiers here?)

    Statewide tea party protests are being planned in Nevada to greet President Barack Obama’s announcement of executive action on amnesty.

    The president will announce his executive amnesty plan Thursday night at 8 p.m. in a primetime address to the nation. Obama will then speak at Del Sol High School in Las Vegas Friday with Senate Minority Leader-elect Harry Reid.

    Las Vegas Tea Party organizer Karen Steelmon sent the message out to supporters that statewide protests are being planned.

    “LOCATION TENTATIVELY AT DEL SOL HIGH SCHOOL ON E. PATRICK NOT VERIFIED…..KEEP FRIDAY OPEN TO PROTEST AT A MOMENTS NOTICE….DETAILS WILL BE POSTED HERE AS SOON ARE THEY ARE RECEIVED…..WE WILL COORDINATE PROTESTS STATEWIDE….”

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/19/im...-in-las-vegas/
    PROTEST AGAINST OBAMA'S TYRANNICAL AMNESTY
    NOVEMBER 21
    NOON (SUBJECT TO CHANGE)
    DEL SOL HIGH SCHOOL (for Las Vegas - see other locations below)
    3100 E. PATRICK LANE (BETWEEN PECOS AND EASTERN)

    Across Nevada, patriots will take part in this event to demonstrate that We The People do not accept the dismissal of our laws!!

    .... STATEWIDE .......check for the rally location near you.....

    I want Nevada out in force! Even if you are THE ONLY ONE who shows up....you are MORE THAN NONE! WAVE THAT FLAG AND SIGN AND SHOW NEVADA AND THE COUNTRY THAT WE WILL NOT TOLERATE INJUSTICE! TAKE LOTS OF PICTURES!

    OBAMA COMING TO VEGAS
    FRIDAY NOVEMBER 21 TO SPEAK ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION....AND RALLY WITH HARRY REID

    WE WILL COORDINATE PROTESTS STATEWIDE At...
    (continued) http://lasvegasteaparty.org
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Statewide protests being planned. I hope they are out in the streets blocking traffic like Times Square on New Years Eve!
    (Any Nevadan Tea Partiers here?)
    Ha. Don't count on that. How many of these so-called 'Tea Party' protests turn out as huge of a turnout as they say? Few.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucille View Post
    Oblahblah is going to speechify on it tonight.

    http://reason.com/blog/2014/11/20/am...-executive-act
    His news media, cbs, cnn, and nbc are providing cover for him by not broadcasting his lies tonight.

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    I saw that, Dianne! Progs are upset (as usual) but of course too dumb to realize CBSABCNBC are doing him a favor.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...burn/19263969/

    Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) issued an ominous warning Wednesday, warning violence could break out after President Barack Obama announces executive action on immigration Thursday.

    “The country’s going to go nuts, because they’re going to see it as a move outside the authority of the president, and it’s going to be a very serious situation,” Coburn said on USA Today’s “Capital Download” program. “You’re going to see — hopefully not — but you could see instances of anarchy. … You could see violence.”
    LOL Please.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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    I think he's supposed to speak at 8 pm ET.

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    Typical emotional speech.

    What's the point of being a productive, law abiding, honest person in this country any more? The hand-outs and bail-outs are going to the lawbreakers at the expense of the productive people. It just makes that person a SUCKER. Anyone that thinks this move will actually prevent the illegals from raking in the freebies is naive. They'll figure out a way, regardless, even if there are changes in the process.

    They'll still be illegals in my mind regardless of how much King O thinks he can just ignore Article I of the Constitution.
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