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    Internet Gambling Ban: A Winner for Sheldon Adelson, A Losing Bet for the Rest of Us

    Internet Gambling Ban: A Winner for Sheldon Adelson, A Losing Bet for the Rest of Us
    Written by Ron Paul - Sunday November 16, 2014

    Most Americans, regardless of ideology, oppose “crony capitalism” or “cronyism.” Cronyism is where politicians write laws aimed at helping their favored business beneficiaries. Despite public opposition to cronyism, politicians still seek to use the legislative process to help special interests.

    For example, Congress may soon vote on legislation outlawing Internet gambling. It is an open secret, at least inside the Beltway, that this legislation is being considered as a favor to billionaire casino owner, Sheldon Adelson. Mr. Adelson, who is perhaps best known for using his enormous wealth to advance a pro-war foreign policy, is now using his political influence to turn his online competitors into criminals.

    Supporters of an Internet gambling ban publicly deny they are motivated by a desire to curry favor with a wealthy donor. Instead, they give a number of high-minded reasons for wanting to ban this activity. Some claim that legalizing online gambling will enrich criminals and even terrorists! But criminalizing online casinos will not eliminate the demand for online casinos. Instead, passage of this legislation will likely guarantee that the online gambling market is controlled by criminals. Thus, it is those who support outlawing online gambling who may be aiding criminals and terrorists.

    A federal online gambling ban would overturn laws in three states that allow online gambling. It would also end the ongoing debate over legalizing online gambling in many other states. Yet some have claimed that Congress must pass this law in order to protect states rights! Their argument is that citizens of states that ban Internet gambling may easily get around those laws by accessing online casinos operating in states where online gambling is legalized.

    Even if the argument had merit that allowing states to legalize online gambling undermines laws in other states, it would not justify federal legislation on the issue. Nowhere in the Constitution is the federal government given any authority to regulate activities such as online gambling. Arguing that "states rights" justifies creating new federal crimes turns the Tenth Amendment, which was intended to limit federal power, on its head.

    Many supporters of an Internet gambling ban sincerely believe that gambling is an immoral and destructive activity that should be outlawed. However, the proposed legislation is not at all about the morality of gambling. It is about whether Americans who do gamble should have the choice to do so online, or be forced to visit brick-and-mortar casinos.

    Even if there was some moral distinction between gambling online or in a physical casino, prohibiting behavior that does not involve force or fraud has no place in a free society. It is no more appropriate for gambling opponents to use force to stop people from playing poker online than it would be for me to use force to stop people from reading pro-war, neocon writers.

    Giving government new powers over the Internet to prevent online gambling will inevitably threaten all of our liberties. Government bureaucrats will use this new authority to expand their surveillance of the Internet activities of Americans who have no interest in gambling, just as they used the new powers granted by the PATRIOT Act to justify mass surveillance.

    The proposed ban on Internet gambling is a blatantly unconstitutional infringement on our liberties that will likely expand the surveillance state. Worst of all, it is all being done for the benefit of one powerful billionaire. Anyone who thinks banning online gambling will not diminish our freedoms while enriching criminals is making a losing bet.
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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    good to see Ron Paul say something about this guy. He's the jerk that spent millions in the MJ dis-info campaign in florida.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-pot-campaign/

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbitech View Post
    good to see Ron Paul say something about this guy. He's the jerk that spent millions in the MJ dis-info campaign in florida.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-pot-campaign/
    Seems like he's basically just buying his political will and to hell with the rest of us. The nerve of that guy to run all that reefer madness/morality nonsense in Florida to scare the old folks, knowing damn well that old people have had a huge part in growing his casino business with their SS checks. Jerk.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    From the article:
    Adelson is a major donor to the Republican Party and even gets visits from Republican presidential candidates during campaigns, such as Mitt Romney in 2012. He allegedly spent $93 million in campaign contributions in 2012.
    Yeah, Romney, Graham and others met with Adelson within the past couple of weeks too.

    Related thread:
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...heldon-Adelson
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Seems like he's basically just buying his political will and to hell with the rest of us. The nerve of that guy to run all that reefer madness/morality nonsense in Florida to scare the old folks, knowing damn well that old people have had a huge part in growing his casino business with their SS checks. Jerk.

    that and his wife is a drug addiction research MD who thinks she is saving the world. Probably make a nice buck off forced rehab of drug offenders in FL too.


    http://fortune.com/2012/02/08/meet-t...eldon-adelson/
    She is quite proud of what the clinics have done. “My clinics have achieved far above the goals I had for them,” she says. “Saving a drug addict is the equivalent of saving about 20 people. Treating one drug addict reduces his criminal activity, reduces his arrests, reduces his appearances in court, reduces his time sitting in prison, reduces his injecting drugs, reduces him being infected with HIV & Hepatitis C while sharing needles, and reduces his infecting others if he is already infected. It also improves his general medical condition, improves his behavior at home and in the environment, improves his work habits, and has a positive impact on his family by having a normal person around them. By treating one person, we can save many lives, and a mission like that is very much fulfilling.”

    mmm hmmm....

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    Related:

    During his MSNBC program on Monday night, Chris Matthews referred to a weekend gathering of the Israeli American Council (IAC) that is backed by Las Vegas casino owner and Republican donor Sheldon Adelson as his own “whore bar” where Republican figures “say anything for that guy, because he’s a hawk, to get his money.”

    Matthews made the disparaging comments during a discussion with The Washington Post’s Jonathan Capehart and David Corn of Mother Jones about foreign policy and his belief that some in the Republican Party are eager to start a war with Iran.
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    Shortly thereafter, Corn remarked how former Vice President Dick Cheney also had recently “appeared before Sheldon Adelson's group in Vegas,” where “he made jokes about bombing Iran and the crowd laughed.” Corn then suggested that, in turn, “[t]hese people want war with Iran.”

    Matthews also took time to mock Republican candidates and figures for even meeting with Adelson (and not how a slew Democrats have sought the support and financial backing of, say, Tom Steyer).
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    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/curtis-...ed-adelson-his
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Might be worth starting a running Sheldon Adelson thread in the 2016 candidates subforum, given his influence buying candidates like Newt in 2012. His trail of dirt is a hundred miles long and keeps growing.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book



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    Money talks, everyone else better keep their mouths shut. "Democracy"? Enough with that farce already...

    Sheldon Adelson's Dismissal of Israeli Democracy Draws Silence From Groups He Backs
    By Josh Nathan-Kazis - November 12, 2014

    Recipients of casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson’s largesse are dodging questions about his latest salvo against Israeli democracy.

    Adelson, a leading Republican donor, has long stood out among American Jews for his conservative views. He may have stepped farther outside of the American Jewish mainstream than ever before, however, in statements at a conference in Washington on November 9 in which he seemed to write off Israel as a democratic state.

    “I don’t think the Bible says anything about democracy,” Adelson said. “[God] didn’t talk about Israel remaining as a democratic state… Israel isn’t going to be a democratic state — so what?”

    While Anti-Defamation League national president Abraham Foxman has slammed Adelson’s remarks, leaders of groups that have taken money from Adelson have not responded to requests to address his statements.

    “Mr. Adelson is certainly entitled to his views,” said Mark Charendoff, president of the Maimonides Foundation and former president of the Jewish Funders Network. “The question is whether he seeks to impose those views on the not-for-profits he supports, and whether he seeks to determine their educational message.”

    A spokesperson for Birthright Israel, whose group gets $32 million a year from Adelson, did not respond to a request for comment. Neither did the Republican Jewish Coalition, the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, or the Israeli American Council, all of which have received major funding from Adelson.
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    This is not the first time that some Jewish charities that take Adelson’s cash appear to be avoiding discussion of his political views. ... But a challenge to Israel’s democratic character by such a prominent funder of Jewish causes and advocate for Israel interferes with the very message many of those groups seek to convey.
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    Three-quarters of Israeli Jews believe that Israel “can be both Jewish and democratic,” according to a 2013 Israel Democracy Institute report. A recent survey by the Jewish Agency’s Jewish People Policy Planning Institute found that attitudes in the Jewish Diaspora are similar to those in Israel, and that those who believe that “Israel should be ‘only Jewish’ or ‘only democratic’ are outside the consensus view of Diaspora Jews.”
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    In his comments, made during a high-profile appearance in Washington at the inaugural national conference of the Israeli American Council, Adelson appeared to brush all that aside. The council, which received some 40% of its funding from Adelson in 2012, hosted Adelson in a discussion with Democratic Jewish mega-donor Haim Saban, another major donor to the group. Saban told Adelson that he supported a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict because any other resolution would imperil Israel’s democratic status. Adelson disagreed, disparaging Israeli democracy. Israel, he urged, should build “a big wall” around its borders.
    ...
    “Sheldon Adelson’s comment suggesting that it’s not so important that Israel remain a democracy is disturbing on many levels,” Foxman wrote. “In fact, the founders of Israel got it exactly right when they emphasized the country being both a Jewish and democratic state. Any initiatives that move Israel away from either value would ill-serve the state and people of Israel.”
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    More: http://forward.com/articles/209072/s...-democracy-dr/
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    Quote Originally Posted by newbitech View Post
    that and his wife is a drug addiction research MD who thinks she is saving the world. Probably make a nice buck off forced rehab of drug offenders in FL too.
    Very noble endeavor, unless taxpayer money is going to it...sounds like something to research.
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 11-17-2014 at 09:31 PM.
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Very noble endeavor, unless taxpayer money is going to it...seems like a research project.
    Meh. It's how the drug warriors claim there's an epidemic of marijuana abuse. Possession defendants are often forced by court order to attend "substance abuse counseling", which is the metric used by the warriors to claim that abuse is out of control. They never mention that it's court ordered, not voluntary, regardless of circumstances. And of course the defendant is ordered to pay for the "counseling", which goes into the pockets of Mrs. Adelson and other "investors" in the counseling centers (judges, prosecutors, etc). Nice racket.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Meh. It's how the drug warriors claim there's an epidemic of marijuana abuse. Possession defendants are often forced by court order to attend "substance abuse counseling", which is the metric used by the warriors to claim that abuse is out of control. They never mention that it's court ordered, not voluntary, regardless of circumstances. And of course the defendant is ordered to pay for the "counseling", which goes into the pockets of Mrs. Adelson and other "investors" in the counseling centers (judges, prosecutors, etc). Nice racket.
    Customers forced by government? Yeah, that's a scam too.
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-...376/cosponsors

    S.3376 - A bill to ensure the integrity of laws enacted to prevent the use of financial instruments for funding or operating online casinos are not undermined by legal opinions not carrying the force of law issued by Federal Government lawyers.
    114th Congress (2015-2016)

    Sponsor: Sen. Cotton, Tom [R-AR] (Introduced 09/21/2016)
    Committees: Senate - Judiciary
    Latest Action: 09/21/2016 Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary. (All Actions)

    Sponsor: Sen. Cotton, Tom [R-AR] | Cosponsor statistics: 2 current - includes 2 original

    Cosponsor Date Cosponsored
    Sen. Lee, Mike [R-UT]* 09/21/2016
    Sen. Graham, Lindsey [R-SC]* 09/21/2016
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