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  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Well?

    How can the grassroots hear the speech if someone doesn't run the sound system correctly? And does not someone who sees the message gets through get called a 'liaison'?

    Clearly there are people here who have much to learn about resume' padding...
    So the guys wearing black at the rock concerts who work back stage are liaison's? Learn something new every day. I guess they are also part of the band?



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  3. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    So the guys wearing black at the rock concerts who work back stage are liaison's? Learn something new every day. I guess they are also part of the band?
    No those guys manage to move amps here or there. The proper title is a band manager.

  4. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Grenadine View Post
    I think his job was something like Grassroots Liaison or something along those lines.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Oh, I thought he was running the mixer board for the audio.
    He's like the jack__ of all trades.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  5. #94
    One time, at a Tom Petty concert, Tom tripped over a microphone stand, knocking it over. A Grassroots Liason ran out there, picked it back up, and gave the "OK" sign to Tom Petty. I don't think he noticed the "OK", but the Grassroots Liason then ran back off the stage.

  6. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    One time, at a Tom Petty concert, Tom tripped over a microphone stand, knocking it over. A Grassroots Liason ran out there, picked it back up, and gave the "OK" sign to Tom Petty. I don't think he noticed the "OK", but the Grassroots Liason then ran back off the stage.
    I think I gave a Ron Paul for Pres business card to Tom Petty one time back in 2007.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  7. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I think I gave a Ron Paul for Pres business card to Tom Petty one time back in 2007.
    i don't think that was a time tested political tactic....did you run this by the liason first before going off on your own?



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  9. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by JK/SEA View Post
    i don't think that was a time tested political tactic....did you run this by the liason first before going off on your own?
    Psssh.. Business cards don't win selections. Back-door to back-door, phone barking, and direct e-mails win selections.
    Last edited by phill4paul; 11-18-2014 at 02:01 PM.

  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Psssh.. Business cards don't win elections. Back-door to back-door, phone barking, and direct snail mail win selections.
    I was a deliverer of info packets door to door back in '08. I like to think I had some impact.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
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  11. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    I was a deliverer of info packets door to door back in '08. I like to think I had some impact.
    You probably did. On the election. (hadn't adjusted my quip for political opportunism just yet ).

  12. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    You probably did. On the election. (hadn't adjusted my quip for political opportunism just yet ).
    Thanks! I covered 4-5 blocks' worth of front doors.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
    Hear/buy my music here "government is the enemy of liberty"-RP Support me on Patreon here Ephesians 6:12

  13. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    Thanks! I covered 4-5 blocks' worth of front doors.
    No, no. Thank-you! Sincerely.

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to heavenlyboy34 again.

  14. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    No, no. Thank-you! Sincerely.

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to heavenlyboy34 again.
    Awww, shucks. ~blushes~ I would've done even more, but there are several cul-de-sacs in my neighborhood, so I went though materials faster than I would've marching around regular blocks. /footsoldier for RP4Prez
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
    Hear/buy my music here "government is the enemy of liberty"-RP Support me on Patreon here Ephesians 6:12

  15. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    I was a deliverer of info packets door to door back in '08. I like to think I had some impact.
    I personally knocked/talked and delivered info to a few hundred houses of registered voters in '08 along with the local group we hit thousands total. The precincts we hit hardest had virtually zero difference in primary day vote % to the precincts we didn't hit at all. just saying...

  16. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I personally knocked/talked and delivered info to a few hundred houses of registered voters in '08 along with the local group we hit thousands total. The precincts we hit hardest had virtually zero difference in primary day vote % to the precincts we didn't hit at all. just saying...
    lolz. Yeah, teh GOP was blacking out and marginalizing RP and fanboys big time back then. Getting silver in Nevada was amazing and encouraging...for a while... :/
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
    Hear/buy my music here "government is the enemy of liberty"-RP Support me on Patreon here Ephesians 6:12



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  18. #105
    Do not pose for photos with Matt Collins or he will claim credit for what you do.
    And then proceed to tell you how you're doing it all wrong.

    www.yourlogicalfallacyis.self-importance

  19. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I personally knocked/talked and delivered info to a few hundred houses of registered voters in '08 along with the local group we hit thousands total. The precincts we hit hardest had virtually zero difference in primary day vote % to the precincts we didn't hit at all. just saying...

    Yea same experience, and probably in the same geographic area. Never would do that again... sending a mailer is much better. Door to door really only makes sense for local candidates.

    On another note I'm inclined to believe the collins because 1) public callouts are kinda lame and 2) there's no proof he was the one who added that to the wiki

  20. #107
    Psssh.. Business cards don't win elections. Back-door to back-door, phone barking, and direct snail mail win selections.
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    I was a deliverer of info packets door to door back in '08. I like to think I had some impact.
    Does that make you a back-door man?
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  21. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by brandon View Post
    Yea same experience, and probably in the same geographic area. Never would do that again... sending a mailer is much better. Door to door really only makes sense for local candidates.

    On another note I'm inclined to believe the collins because 1) public callouts are kinda lame and 2) there's no proof he was the one who added that to the wiki
    IMHO. Mailers.



    No one I know. No one. Gives them the time of day. Those I know and myself might be totally in the minority though and I am aware that my view is subjective.

  22. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    No one I know. No one. Gives them the time of day. Those I know and myself might be totally in the minority though and I am aware that my view is subjective.
    They aren't designed for political junkies/activists. They are to hit the people who don't really follow politics. When it comes to local races I know little to nothing about, mailers have influenced me a couple times before.

    They also are more effective when targeted correctly. If you get a list of all voters who rank gun control as a top issue, and then send them a mailer about gun control, that's a lot more effective than just bombing the generic ones to everyone.

  23. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by brandon View Post
    They aren't designed for political junkies/activists. They are to hit the people who don't really follow politics. When it comes to local races I know little to nothing about, mailers have influenced me a couple times before.

    They also are more effective when targeted correctly. If you get a list of all voters who rank gun control as a top issue, and then send them a mailer about gun control, that's a lot more effective than just bombing the generic ones to everyone.
    Not everyone I know are political junkies. And I do know a bit about advertising and marketing. I've been in that business.

  24. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    IMHO. Mailers.



    No one I know. No one. Gives them the time of day. Those I know and myself might be totally in the minority though and I am aware that my view is subjective.
    I constantly hear people say mailers do work. I'm ambivalent on them. #1 reason is because they are expensive as all get out. I have to sell my soul to send a mailer. Period.

    I also think door to door is marginally effective (for local candidates). The precincts I walked DID go my way over my opponents or got me within 2 points.

    Being active and involved in your community is your best focus though. Volunteer, volunteer, volunteer. Did I say volunteer?
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  25. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    I constantly hear people say mailers do work. I'm ambivalent on them. #1 reason is because they are expensive as all get out. I have to sell my soul to send a mailer. Period.
    Are the people that tell you that involved in...marketing?

    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    I also think door to door is marginally effective (for local candidates). The precincts I walked DID go my way over my opponents or got me within 2 points.
    It depends on if they are open to discussion. If they are then it can do wonders for an individual that knows the facts on a targeted issue. Most are not and are decided to vote either R or D tickets or, when local, by name recognition or affiliation. However, if someone is undecided and interested, it can make all the difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    Being active and involved in your community is your best focus though. Volunteer, volunteer, volunteer. Did I say volunteer?
    Now this, this, will open all kind of doors. It will provide a camaraderie in total opposites that will allow an opening for dialog.
    Last edited by phill4paul; 11-18-2014 at 04:03 PM.



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  27. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    I constantly hear people say mailers do work. I'm ambivalent on them. #1 reason is because they are expensive as all get out. I have to sell my soul to send a mailer. Period.

    I also think door to door is marginally effective (for local candidates). The precincts I walked DID go my way over my opponents or got me within 2 points.

    Being active and involved in your community is your best focus though. Volunteer, volunteer, volunteer. Did I say volunteer?
    I think what is effective is probably greatly depends on the type of race and the community it is in.

    I will say the most FUN I had doing it besides making/hanging banners/signs was when our group went to festivals, fairs, public events and handed out information and talked to people. no voter lists, no bothering people at their house, no targeting, just talking to the general public. In my mind, this shotgun method was more effective than the rifle approach but I have zero data to back that up.

  28. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Now this, this, will open all kind of doors. It will provide a camaraderie in total opposites that will allow an opening for dialog.
    Best volunteering gig I ever took was helping with the homeless. I had die hard socialist democrats vote for me.

    Thing is, they know if you are sincere or not. I volunteered because I felt called by my faith. Not because I thought it would advance my political career. I also volunteer on a local festival - I wanted to give back to my community - not win points for an election.

    But the more you volunteer, the more connections you make, the more people who will sway votes your way. I believe word of mouth is powerful. But of course, I have no data on that.
    Last edited by mosquitobite; 11-18-2014 at 04:08 PM.
    Few men have virtue enough to withstand the highest bidder. ~GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter, Aug. 17, 1779

    Quit yer b*tching and whining and GET INVOLVED!!

  29. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I think what is effective is probably greatly depends on the type of race and the community it is in.

    I will say the most FUN I had doing it besides making/hanging banners/signs was when our group went to festivals, fairs, public events and handed out information and talked to people. no voter lists, no bothering people at their house, no targeting, just talking to the general public. In my mind, this shotgun method was more effective than the rifle approach but I have zero data to back that up.
    I am too logical for that to be fun for me. I do like festivals but I do not think the data is there to show it changes any minds.
    This is how my brain thinks as I'm talking to people at a festival:

    "Wish I knew whether this guy was a registered voter or not."
    "Too bad they don't wear their party label on their forehead."
    "Will this guy even remember me/my name in 4 months?"

    So that's why, as a candidate, I preferred door to door. I could target exactly who I wanted to target.
    Few men have virtue enough to withstand the highest bidder. ~GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter, Aug. 17, 1779

    Quit yer b*tching and whining and GET INVOLVED!!

  30. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Are the people that tell you that involved in...marketing?
    Well the people involved in making/marketing the mailers have convinced all the local candidates that they are what win.
    Few men have virtue enough to withstand the highest bidder. ~GEORGE WASHINGTON, letter, Aug. 17, 1779

    Quit yer b*tching and whining and GET INVOLVED!!

  31. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    I am too logical for that to be fun for me. I do like festivals but I do not think the data is there to show it changes any minds.
    This is how my brain thinks as I'm talking to people at a festival:

    "Wish I knew whether this guy was a registered voter or not."
    "Too bad they don't wear their party label on their forehead."
    "Will this guy even remember me/my name in 4 months?"

    So that's why, as a candidate, I preferred door to door. I could target exactly who I wanted to target.
    Yeah, I could see that. I'm just an outgoing person and like talking to people and will claim to being a decent conversationalist that can read people. The only data point I have that I can point to it being successful is that we had a number of people that we met at those festivals show up at meetups and go along with us at future events. I don't recall a single person we met going door to door that ended up becoming an active member or our group.

  32. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by mosquitobite View Post
    I am too logical for that to be fun for me. I do like festivals but I do not think the data is there to show it changes any minds.
    This is how my brain thinks as I'm talking to people at a festival:

    "Wish I knew whether this guy was a registered voter or not."
    "Too bad they don't wear their party label on their forehead."
    "Will this guy even remember me/my name in 4 months?"

    So that's why, as a candidate, I preferred door to door. I could target exactly who I wanted to target.
    Well, the good thing about festival working is that you don't stand the chance of interrupting/disturbing someone (if you're not out there thrusting material into their hands). It's a little tougher on the door to door. People, families, it seems have never had a busier life. It's tough to catch people with a few moments to spare.
    If I could figure out a way to sneak material into every bathroom in America I would be a rich man. There I have a captive audience with nothing better to do.

  33. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Well, the good thing about festival working is that you don't stand the chance of interrupting/disturbing someone (if you're not out there thrusting material into their hands).
    we mainly gave out those business cards that had a bunch of talking points printed front and back with the meetup website info and official ronpaul website on it. Not too difficult to put in your pocket.

    edit: business cards designed/made/printed by our local group at no cost or direction from the campaign before they had anything available.
    Last edited by specsaregood; 11-18-2014 at 04:25 PM.

  34. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by francisco View Post
    Does that make you a back-door man?
    More like front-door man. Here in the very "fenced" suburbs backdoors of homes are inaccessible to the public.
    Quote Originally Posted by Torchbearer
    what works can never be discussed online. there is only one language the government understands, and until the people start speaking it by the magazine full... things will remain the same.
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