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    Car Key programming.

    OK, so I'm down to one key on my Ford Explorer. I go to get a copy made. They want 80+ dollars?!?

    What?!?

    So if you have two copies currently, I'd recommend you get on ebay or Alibaba and get a third. Have it cut for less than $2 and program it via the car manual.

    Now if only have one, you probably can't do that.

    So in my case, I bought a programmer from Alibaba for ~$85. I already did two keys with it and it works great, so it has paid for itself.

    Just a heads up.

    My brother has a Volvo and said it cost around $150 to get a copy.
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    More joys of computer cars

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    Any key that can't get wet is no good to me. I would forgo buying the car if I can't dunk the key at least 2 meters deep in water.

    Are there any new cars I can even buy anymore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Any key that can't get wet is no good to me. I would forgo buying the car if I can't dunk the key at least 2 meters deep in water.

    Are there any new cars I can even buy anymore?
    These keys can get wet. Chip is sealed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Any key that can't get wet is no good to me. I would forgo buying the car if I can't dunk the key at least 2 meters deep in water.

    Are there any new cars I can even buy anymore?
    What the $#@! is a meter?

    Stop talking that Jacobin nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    These keys can get wet. Chip is sealed.
    The very first thing I do once this VW's warranty runs out is re-flash the ECM and disable that proximity chip $#@!.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    What the $#@! is a meter?

    Stop talking that Jacobin nonsense.
    a meter is not "Jacobin nonsense"
    or did you not think I would catch that turn of phrase?

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    My own fond fob recollections: (always check the internet for the particular make car, year and model in question)

    The oldest (+20year old) GM "electric" keys I remember had two contacts with one of several possible resistance values inside (for the ECU to detect). Popular problem/fix: An exact value resistor could be spliced right into the wiring to work around a defective keylock contact!

    "Newer" (<20 year old) Toyota cars used (blank) keys with embedded sealed fobs (and remote controls), each having a unique, hard-coded "serial number". Like most passive transponders, a high frequency field energizes a short return burst of a digital code from the keyfob. Only the car's ECU is actually programmed to accept that particular serial number as valid. A maximum of only a few numbers can be programmed before the ECU has to be flashed/re-programmed and wiped clean to start over with all new keys and remotes, or maybe a brand new blank factory ECU would be necessary...

    You could even do the keyfob and/or remote control enabling process yourself with the tricky/bizarre "brake pedal door dance" technique on some 15+ year old Toyotas, but the newer cars (2004 an up) require the specific ECU programmer tool that's usually only available at the dealer. GOTCHA! Or, a careful, reasonably priced eBay purchase described in the OP post #1 << Nice purchase Danke!

    WORKAROUND: The "brain end" of a decapitated good key could remain (attached near the keylock) thus enabling the ECU. Any number of "dumb" keys could then be cut (before decapitation!) and to unlock the steering column and start the car.

    It's a theft security "feature" - Investigate and Be careful << AF- (Flashing might lead to a useless VW or a huge cash outlay at the dealer!)

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by HVACTech View Post
    a meter is not "Jacobin nonsense"
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    Quote Originally Posted by HVACTech View Post
    a meter is not "Jacobin nonsense"
    or did you not think I would catch that turn of phrase?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    What the $#@! is a meter?

    Stop talking that Jacobin nonsense.
    I bet the commie use Celsius too!
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    Do you have a link to the programmer you are using ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsat_98 View Post
    Do you have a link to the programmer you are using ?
    Yes
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    That's great, don't accidently lose that link then while sharing it with others...



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    Quote Originally Posted by FindLiberty View Post
    That's great, don't accidently lose that link then while sharing it with others...
    No Problem
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindLiberty View Post
    WORKAROUND: The "brain end" of a decapitated good key could remain (attached near the keylock) thus enabling the ECU. Any number of "dumb" keys could then be cut (before decapitation!) and to unlock the steering column and start the car.
    I actually did that for a while: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eft&highlight=

    But I love gadgets, and when my brother told me his expensive story, I decided to buy a programmer.
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    What year is the Ford? I work at a Ford dealer and never heard of a programmer for the key itself. We program the car to the key with a laptop and Ford's IDS software.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    What year is the Ford? I work at a Ford dealer and never heard of a programmer for the key itself. We program the car to the key with a laptop and Ford's IDS software.
    Yes, they call it an auto key programmer immobilizer. So yes, you are not programming the key itself. Same with FOB remote "programming" that is also a function of the device I linked to.
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