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In New Zealand:
The Coastguard is a Charity
Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
The DMV is a private non-profit
Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
A tax return has 4 fields
Business licenses aren't a thing
Prostitution is legal
We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care
I agree. It seems that with GPS technology, we'd be able to sell off large sections of the waters to private ownership. I see no reason why it has to be different than land.
You could still have international seaways where ship traffic could travel while ensuring the private property rights of others' sea ownership. I know I'd take pretty good care of my section of the ocean if it meant more profitable sea life would migrate there.
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
As the yield of cod becomes lower in both size and quality the price will go up to the point that cod aquaculture becomes more profitable. It is already well established in Norway. Our course the environmentalists don't like it either. This is about CONTROL pure and simple.
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Rapid growth in European cod farming prompts fears from green groups
Norway, which accounts for around 80% of the world's farmed cod production, increased its national production by 59% from 10,375 tonnes in 2007 to 16,523 tonnes in 2008. The figures, from the country's Directorate of Fisheries confirm the rapid growth in the cod farming industry, but they have prompted fears from green groups that the expansion will lead to more escapes from farms and contamination of the gene pool of wild populations.
"We are very concerned at the current levels of cod farming," said Nina Jensen, head of conservation at WWF Norway. "No environmental impact studies of cod farms have been done, there are no restrictions on location, there are no restrictions on the protection of spawning grounds and there are lots of fish that escape."
"They sell us the president the same way they sell us our clothes and our cars. They sell us every thing from youth to religion the same time they sell us our wars. I want to know who the men in the shadows are. I want to hear somebody asking them why. They can be counted on to tell us who our enemies are but theyre never the ones to fight or to die." - Jackson Browne Lives In The Balance
And this wouldn't be an issue at all.
Surface vessel traffic, no matter how large, has no real impact on fish stocks.
The only conflict would be between fishing vessels and ships, but this is already well mitigated by centuries old "rules of the road" to avoid collisions and modern navigation equipment.
Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11
I was thinking about more of the "Get off my lawn" aspect. If I owned a section of ocean, I wouldn't want someone barging through unannounced and without payment regardless of their intention. It's my water. Doesn't matter if I use it to fish, use it for tidal generation, or sell access to it for travel. Hell, there could be lots of uses and you could make money in several different ways all at the same time. If you spill onto my water - I could sue. It just seems like there could be a new frontier of resource ownership with our GPS technology.
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
Sounds like every industry the government has it's hand in. They start by destroying the ability of the small business owner to compete leaving only the large national government approved corporate monopolies that can. I suspect their day will come to since this is just another stepping stone on the long road leading to nationalization of private industries. (if they ever get that far).
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Wonder if it has anything to do with this:
Salt-Water Fish Extinction Seen By 2048
Already, 29% of edible fish and seafood species have declined by 90% -- a drop that means the collapse of these fisheries. ... Worm and colleagues report their findings in the Nov. 3 issue of 'Science'.
We are definitely going in the direction of the wealthy eating meat and fish, while those not well connected eat GMO cardboard. Feds are killing the cattle industry, seafood industry, fruit and veggies. Look at Michelle O's meals for the school kids... a slathering of boxed mashed potatoes and a Tyson pre-cooked chicken patty with a carton of milk. Do you think her kids eat that.. Do you think that beotch and its' adopted kids would ever touch that?
On day 2 I'm still all in AF. If there is an in to be had. Coupla weeks planning and a hell of a strategy could be formed between you Gunny, Coastie and myself.
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Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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The Gulf of Mexico will never be the same. There's an area the size of Rhode Island covered in oil that is completely dead to all of life. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-1...do-well-disast All one has to do is look at Valdez Alaska to know generations from now that areas of the Gulf of Mexico will still be covered in oil and dead. And the oil is moving to other areas of the Gulf: fishermen off the southwest coast of Florida below Tampa and even fishermen as far away as the Florida Keys have found BP oil in their catches. The Gulf Restoration Network is a small group of volunteers who give of their time and talents and have found over 2.5 million gallons of oil being spilled off Louisiana every single year: and they admit: they only cover a tiny portion of the tens of thousands of oil rigs out there. As they've said: 'if we find this much oil spilling off oil rigs every year in the small areas that we look, just imagine how many gallons of carcinogenic oil are spilling off those oil rigs in its entirety'. Bonny Schumaker is a retired physicist from NASA and she does flyovers of the Gulf and films videos of literally mile after mile after mile after mile of oil sheen sitting on top the Gulf.
Sperm whales in the Gulf were shown to have higher toxins in their blubber than anywhere else on the planet:
And, as you stated, what is being caught there is severely deformed -- shrimp with no eyes, fish having several tails... over 50,000 dolphins have died so far and thousands more in Barataria Bay are severely ill and dying slow, painful, deaths with lung disease in addition to other maladies that are consistent with the cancer-causing carcinogenic elements that are found within oil. I've watched videos year after year of mothers trying to prop up their dolphin calves for their first breath of air after birthing them, only to never see their still-born baby awaken. One mother stayed with her baby for over a week trying to push it up to breath, only to finally push it over to a small boat as if to ask the people in the boat to help her. It's heart wrenching what's going on down there. It really is.
Sea monsters and devoured jobs are sinking shrimp harvesters four years after the BP blowout
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
Just wondering how overfished the Cod industry really is up there, in comparison to Real cod numbers?
I'm against the taxation of land, I'm also against the separation of mineral rights from land possession, so I could only imagine the bureaucratic hell oceanic division would create.
Government would grow her forces more than double trying to regulate and police private ocean space, look at the lawyers and court cases regarding land.
Theoretically dividing any tangible item into sections for private ownership is logical but given the fluid nature of the ocean the whole endeavor sounds illogical to me.
Look up tragedy of the commons before posting such nonsense
It's not just cod. There was no shrimp season this year at all and they cut the elver limit way down. Shrimp isn't really that profitable, but elvers were the second most profitable fishery here after lobster.
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