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    Will tonight's results help or hurt Hillary's chances in 2016?

    The Republicans wholly own the legislative branch now. What does it mean for the next two years? What does it mean for 2016? Will Hillary and the Dems have a better case to be made as a result or will they be on the way out?



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    Probably help whomever the D nominee is. Republicans will get more blame for stuff over the next two years.

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    It will hurt Joe Biden, but probably not Hillary.

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    This is an important question with meaningful consequences that warrants further discussion.

    I for one believe that these results will help Hillary's chances in 2016. Democrats will need a win after this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by green73 View Post
    The Republicans wholly own the legislative branch now. What does it mean for the next two years? What does it mean for 2016? Will Hillary and the Dems have a better case to be made as a result or will they be on the way out?
    A win for Jeb Bush?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    A win for Jeb Bush?

    /shudder
    What's your thinking behind that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bxm042 View Post
    This is an important question with meaningful consequences that warrants further discussion.

    I for one believe that these results will help Hillary's chances in 2016. Democrats will need a win after this.
    Sure. But will they want baggage from the Obama administration of Obama was seen as dragging dems down?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Sure. But will they want baggage from the Obama administration of Obama was seen as dragging dems down?
    What baggage? In two years time with the American short-term memory, they will have a much stronger case to be made for themselves. That's the democracy dance!



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    Quote Originally Posted by green73 View Post
    The Republicans wholly own the legislative branch now. What does it mean for the next two years? What does it mean for 2016? Will Hillary and the Dems have a better case to be made as a result or will they be on the way out?
    Dems on the way out? Ha. Sitting presidents' party usually don't do so hot during midterms, if 2010 is any indication. Republicans are losing the war on rhetoric and alienating a lot of voters that aren't well off White, Anglo-Saxon Protestants, not to mention sitting with the label of 'no.' The Dems are still in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green73 View Post
    What's your thinking behind that?
    Jeb Bush will be the GOP candidate.. a prediction.

    Watch and see.
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    Hillary will net benefit, because as established in past cycles, after some midterm gains, Republicans will pridefully think they can coast into the White House by pushing yet another milquetoast moderate who alienates their own base. Marquee example was 2010---after the Democrats got the worst midterms congressional beating in 150 years, and with the whole country speaking as one to repeal Obamacare, the GOP nominated the one candidate who was the most fatally flawed on the issue (Romney, of Romneycare).

    So, buoyed by the complete takeover of Congress in this election, with the damaged brand called Hillary on the horizon, the Republican leadership will no doubt push for the even more damaged Bush as its standard bearer come 2016.
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    Some demographics:


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    It all depends on what the GOP does to get things on the right track over the next year or so.

    It's all about the economy.

    If they can get it moving in the right direction, 2016 will be theirs.
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    This will change the bottleneck from the Senate to Obama, and he will run interference. as people will get totally screwed under these policies, Hillaries chances will go down the spiral of the porcelain god.

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    I doubt it that next two years of gop Congress control will be of much help for Hillay "what difference does it make" Clinton (despite all the efforts they may make).. the damage done by swc is too massive to be out of memory spans in two years.
    And the reminder will remain in WH for those two years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiaboy View Post
    It all depends on what the GOP does to get things on the right track over the next year or so.

    It's all about the economy.

    If they can get it moving in the right direction, 2016 will be theirs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by green73 View Post
    The Republicans wholly own the legislative branch now. What does it mean for the next two years? What does it mean for 2016? Will Hillary and the Dems have a better case to be made as a result or will they be on the way out?
    It does not hurt a Dem , the votes for them come from much different places and lots of them .

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    The Dems will have to run against Obama's 8 years,much like the GOP against Bush in '08.
    Hillary has no chance,she is too closely tied to the Obama administration,it will be somebody else.
    The GOP will likely snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again by trying to outdo the Dems in socialism and Statism over the next two years and then nominate some moron for President like they have for the last....I am too tired and too disgusted to think about how long it's been.
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    Well it depends if they start passing legislation that benefits the people. The REDEEM ACT is a start. Keystone pipeline is another. I can't see Obama vetoing the pipeline. I expect these to be on the table first thing when they get sworn in.

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    The Republicans will continually send relatively modest bills to Obama's desk over the next two years.

    These will be bills with widespread support both within the GOP and amoung the electorate as a whole.

    If he accepts them, the Republicans can claim these as accomplishments - and I think that's the most likely outcome.

    If he rejects them, the Republicans can turn the "party of obstruction" narrative around.

    Either way, the big win tonight helps them a lot for 2016.

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    Since Repubs control both house and senate now they can back a real conservative candidate if they choose. If they win and the majority does not like thier polices they do not have to support them completely. An example is Bush could have opened ANWR when Repubs controlled everything for oil exploration but guys like McCain blocked it. THere are enough RINOs to keep a real conservative president in check from changing the status quo.
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    It means Democrats will be crying non-stop about voter fraud, voter ID laws, super PACs and whatever conspiracy theories they conveniently forget whenever they win an election.

    It means birthers and tea party will finally STFU until summer of 2015.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    The Republicans will continually send relatively modest bills to Obama's desk over the next two years.

    These will be bills with widespread support both within the GOP and amoung the electorate as a whole.

    If he accepts them, the Republicans can claim these as accomplishments - and I think that's the most likely outcome.

    If he rejects them, the Republicans can turn the "party of obstruction" narrative around.

    Either way, the big win tonight helps them a lot for 2016.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Some demographics:

    Let's be honest, not like the GOP is in any position to win the demographics race if you don't count White, Anglo-Saxon Protestants.



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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiaboy View Post
    It all depends on what the GOP does to get things on the right track over the next year or so.

    It's all about the economy.

    If they can get it moving in the right direction, 2016 will be theirs.
    If they hawk more war, don't walk Obamacare back, and do nothing about Keystone - Hitlery will win.
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    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
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    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    If they hawk more war, don't walk Obamacare back, and do nothing about Keystone - Hitlery will win.
    Well, there will be another Democrat in the White House, anyway, though I think Clinton is as overhyped and unelectable now as she was in 2008.

    But if Republicans pass repeal after repeal after repeal--become neither a 'do-nothing Congress' nor a do-everything Congress, but what we really need, an undo-everything Congress, none of it will get past the White House un-vetoed and the Republicans will enter January 2017 in every federal elective office.

    But then, of course, people will expect them to undo all that $#@! and make it stick--at which point we will be easily able to separate the conservatives from the RINOs. So, since some things do trump partisanship up in Washington, I sincerely doubt we'll see this plan implemented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Well, there will be another Democrat in the White House, anyway, though I think Clinton is as overhyped and unelectable now as she was in 2008.

    But if Republicans pass repeal after repeal after repeal--become neither a 'do-nothing Congress' nor a do-everything Congress, but what we really need, an undo-everything Congress, none of it will get past the White House un-vetoed and the Republicans will enter January 2017 in every federal elective office.

    But then, of course, people will expect them to undo all that $#@! and make it stick--at which point we will be easily able to separate the conservatives from the RINOs. So, since some things do trump partisanship up in Washington, I sincerely doubt we'll see this plan implemented.
    I like what Reagan said about the gov't 'undoing all that $#@!'. (starts at 36 sec)

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Jeb Bush will be the GOP candidate.. a prediction.

    Watch and see.
    Ahhh Jeb nepotism bush, the perfect piece of $#@! to awaken the false dichotomy right before they install Hillary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    If they hawk more war, don't walk Obamacare back, and do nothing about Keystone - Hitlery will win.
    Hillary will not win she be installed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ZENemy View Post
    Ahhh Jeb nepotism bush, the perfect piece of $#@! to awaken the false dichotomy right before they install Hillary.
    He would be her only hope. He's the only monster who could possibly make her look good.

    BUSH vs. CLINTON 2016

    Are we really stupid enough to settle for this?

    C'mon, everybody! Let's do the RINO/DINO/Lino-dance!

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