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    Medical Establisment using Ebola fears to push Flu shots

    Fever? Headache? Muscle aches? Forget about Ebola — chances are astronomically higher that you have the flu or some other common bug.

    That message still hasn't reached many Americans, judging from stories ER doctors and nurses swapped this week at a Chicago medical conference. Misinformed patients with Ebola-like symptoms can take up time and resources in busy emergency rooms, and doctors fear the problem may worsen when flu season ramps up.

    That's one reason why doctors say this year it's especially important for patients to get their flu shots: Fewer flu cases could mean fewer Ebola false alarms.
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    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSto...-shot-26574214



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    Funny you should post this. I was just at a meeting and this came up. The health authorities and hospitals are really worried that they are going to be overwhelmed with false alarm "ebola" cases when the flu season hits. They are hoping the flu shots will stave it off somewhat. I think it will fail.
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    Don't forget the President signing EO to detain citizens who have respiratory issues.

    Obama Signs Executive Order to Allow Detention of Americans With ‘Respiratory Illnesses’
    http://www.infowars.com/obama-signs-...ory-illnesses/
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    Seems that this year's vaccine is almost identical to last year's, with a slight change to the H3N2 strain.

    The 2013-2014 trivalent influenza vaccine was made from the following three viruses:

    an A/California/7/2009 (H1N1)pdm09-like virus;
    an A(H3N2) virus antigenically like the cell-propagated prototype virus A/Victoria/361/2011;
    a B/Massachusetts/2/2012-like virus.
    ...
    http://www.cdc.gov/flu/pastseasons/1314season.htm
    The WHO Vaccine Composition Meeting for the 2014-2015 season was held February 17 -19, 2014 at WHO headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland. On February 20, the Meeting recommended that trivalent vaccines for use in the Northern Hemisphere 2014-15 influenza season contain the following:

    an A/California/7/2009 (H1N1)pdm09-like virus;
    an A/Texas/50/2012 (H3N2)-like virus;
    a B/Massachusetts/2/2012-like virus.

    http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/...-selection.htm
    Early this year, a B-variant went around. It was not included in the standard trivalent vaccine, although it might be in the quadrivalent, which includes the B/Brisbane/60/2008-like virus (same in last year and this year vaccine).

    What flu viruses circulated this season?

    During the 2013-2014 season, influenza A (H3N2), 2009 influenza A (H1N1), and influenza B viruses circulated in the United States. 2009 H1N1 viruses predominated overall during the 2013-14 flu season, though influenza B viruses became the predominant virus nationally later in the season and caused an increase in influenza-like-illness in parts of the northeast especially. After several recent influenza A (H3N2)–predominant seasons, 2013-14 was the first pH1N1–predominant season since the 2009 pH1N1 pandemic.
    Bad news is that they did not identify the late season B outbreak, as it occurred after they stopped tracking for the season. So that variant is still not in this year's standard trivalent vaccine.
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    Oddly enough this showed up on my Pinterest feed today. Whatever, I've never received a flu shot and I've only had it 2 or 3 times as an adult. Last year I got really sick from it (ended up with bronchitis) but that was because I didn't take care of myself. This year, I'm ready.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Oddly enough this showed up on my Pinterest feed today. Whatever, I've never received a flu shot and I've only had it 2 or 3 times as an adult. Last year I got really sick from it (ended up with bronchitis) but that was because I didn't take care of myself. This year, I'm ready.


    Me too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    Funny you should post this. I was just at a meeting and this came up. The health authorities and hospitals are really worried that they are going to be overwhelmed with false alarm "ebola" cases when the flu season hits. They are hoping the flu shots will stave it off somewhat. I think it will fail.
    Well it is designed to fail so yes it will hehe..

    Basic immunology and microbiology dictates that viral RNA polymerases such as the one for flu viruses are very mistake-prone and do not proofread and so mutations are not only likely but happen very very rapidly.. We cannot vaccinate effectively against such a virus and they only choose like 4 strains out of a hat of thousands or millions lol..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotin View Post
    Well it is designed to fail so yes it will hehe..

    Basic immunology and microbiology dictates that viral RNA polymerases such as the one for flu viruses are very mistake-prone and do not proofread and so mutations are not only likely but happen very very rapidly.. We cannot vaccinate effectively against such a virus and they only choose like 4 strains out of a hat of thousands or millions lol..
    One of several reasons I don't get a flu shot. Chances are that if a 1918-style pandemic hits, the vaccine they have in the can will be useless. IF there is a serious pandemic and IF they get a vaccine online for the specific strain in a timely manner (probably only possible if the virus goes around twice) I will take it. Otherwise, I'll take my chances.
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