Man sexually assaulted after woman breaks into home, climbs into bed

[Spikender]

My IQ dropped from reading this topic.

[CaptUSA]

Geez... If I had a dollar for every time I woke up with my penis in the mouth of some strange woman...

What's missing from this story is the time of night. I mean, was he close to waking up? Had he just gone to bed? These are the important things to consider - was his sleeping pattern interrupted?

[jmdrake]

No, I'm actually not an idiot. Most guys would wake up and be like holy $#@! this is awesome. The next thought would be, 'oh $#@!, that's my buddy's wife, he'll kill me if he finds out about this, I better stop it!!" I'm not saying every guy has to be that way, but the reason why men raping women is seen as such a highly criminal offense is because most men are physically stronger than most women, so a man raping a woman would be like the equivalent of a woman raping a man with a knife or a gun. Unless a woman is violent or made threats of violence, I don't see any reason why a criminal case would need to be made. In this case, all he had to do was call her husband instead of the police.

I'm pretty sure AF will agree with me about calling the police

But even when a man doesn't use violence it's considered rape. If a woman gives into a man who's just too persistent because she tired and wants to get it over with and go to sleep, she can still claim rape and be taken seriously. You think I'm kidding? Read this column by George Will.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...f0a_story.html
Consider the supposed campus epidemic of rape, a.k.a. “sexual assault.” Herewith, a Philadelphia magazine report about Swarthmore College, where in 2013 a student “was in her room with a guy with whom she’d been hooking up for three months”:

“They’d now decided — mutually, she thought — just to be friends. When he ended up falling asleep on her bed, she changed into pajamas and climbed in next to him. Soon, he was putting his arm around her and taking off her clothes. ‘I basically said, “No, I don’t want to have sex with you.” And then he said, “OK, that’s fine” and stopped. . . . And then he started again a few minutes later, taking off my panties, taking off his boxers. I just kind of laid there and didn’t do anything — I had already said no. I was just tired and wanted to go to bed. I let him finish. I pulled my panties back on and went to sleep.’”

Six weeks later, the woman reported that she had been raped. Now the Obama administration is riding to the rescue of “sexual assault” victims. It vows to excavate equities from the ambiguities of the hookup culture, this cocktail of hormones, alcohol and the faux sophistication of today’s prolonged adolescence of especially privileged young adults.

Note that this woman could have told her jackass boyfriend to leave after he attempted to take her panties of the first time. She could have said get the hell out after the second time. But if you point out the obvious when the victim is a woman, you are accused of blaming the victim. Think I'm joking? George Will had members of congress writing scathing letters of rebuke to him for this column.

See: http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/...mn-190088.html

[RonPaulIsGreat]

Well, if a woman is crazy enough to sneak in your house without warning, then suck on your dick while you are unconscious, she's probably an unstable nutter. This is probably the same unstable type of woman if rejected would seek to harm you, aka false rape accusations, spreading lies, or whatnot. I mean really how many stable women break or sneak into an unsuspecting guys house to suck his cock.


So, what's the guy to do, call the husband. Oh, yeah, that's a great plan, the husband is just as likely to show up with a gun directed at you as he would his wife. I'm sure everyone has witnessed a situation where the husband or wife cheated and the anger is directed at the third party. So, scratch that $#@!, lots of drama potential and possible death, once the crazy woman starts the tears and lies.

Nope, unfortunately getting the incident on record as soon as possible is the only practical method of possibly protecting yourself.

I mean, seriously, the bitch is crazy. She is his friends wife to. Stop watching so much porn, women don't crave sucking cock so bad they'll break into houses unless they got a screw loose.

Yeah, I know, I'm a pussy, because I wouldn't $#@! my friends crazy wife that broke into my house, and stuck my dick in her mouth while I was asleep. LOL. I guess I am a pussy then. Oh know.

[jmdrake]

Call a friend if you need help.......

Contrary to what school children are taught cops are not your friends!

We are entering a strange new era where the government is trying to say it's rape whenever you have sex with someone without his/her express written or verbal consent. I was thinking about this the other day. Say if the woman initiates everything then claims you raped her? She says "Sure. I crawled into bed with him half naked. I rubbed up against him. One thing lead to another. But I didn't really want him to penetrate me. I didn't say no, but I didn't say yes either." The only way for a man to protect himself from that is to preemptively say that the woman raped him. Women crying rape after being rebuffed is as old as Joseph an Potiphar's wife. That's basically what happened in the Duke lacrosse rape case. Some frat boys called for some strippers. They didn't get the strippers they wanted. Ugly words were exchange by both sides. One stripper claimed she had been raped even though forensic evidence had shown that she hadn't had sex with anyone she accused of raping her. Had they had consensual sex with her, those men's lives would have been ruined forever.

[jmdrake]

Well, if a woman is crazy enough to sneak in your house without warning, then suck on your dick while you are unconscious, she's probably an unstable nutter. This is probably the same unstable type of woman if rejected would seek to harm you, aka false rape accusations, spreading lies, or whatnot. I mean really how many stable women break or sneak into an unsuspecting guys house to suck his cock.


So, what's the guy to do, call the husband. Oh, yeah, that's a great plan, the husband is just as likely to show up with a gun directed at you as he would his wife. I'm sure everyone has witnessed a situation where the husband or wife cheated and the anger is directed at the third party. So, scratch that $#@!, lots of drama potential and possible death, once the crazy woman starts the tears and lies.

Nope, unfortunately getting the incident on record as soon as possible is the only practical method of possibly protecting yourself.

I mean, seriously, the bitch is crazy. She is his friends wife to. Stop watching so much porn, women don't crave sucking cock so bad they'll break into houses unless they got a screw loose.

Yeah, I know, I'm a pussy, because I wouldn't $#@! my friends crazy wife that broke into my house, and stuck my dick in her mouth while I was asleep. LOL. I guess I am a pussy then. Oh know.

^This. The man in this story still has his life. Had he taken any other course of action she could have ruined it.

[Spikender]

As a man, if you don't like any sort of sexual gratification from any sort of woman, you are obviously either gay or weak.

[jmdrake]

Or you are a virgin who can't get laid to save his life and have to concoct some off the wall fantasy of a crazy chick breaking into your bedroom as your only chance at getting laid.

Waking up with my thing in some unknown creature's mouth is not a fantasy of mine. Sorry.

LOL pure pwnage

[jmdrake]

As a man, if you don't like any sort of sexual gratification from any sort of woman, you are obviously either gay or weak.

[CaptUSA]

women don't crave sucking cock so bad they'll break into houses unless they got a screw loose.

Hmmm... I don't know how many women I've met that don't have at least one screw loose somewhere, but I don't think I'd have to take off my shoes to count them.

As a musician in my 20's, I shared a house with 4 people. We partied every day and there were constantly people around all night. It was not unusual to wake up with strangers. From that experience, I would tell you that women do all sorts of things when they don't feel like they have to hold up appearances.

[jmdrake]

Hmmm... I don't know how many women I've met that don't have at least one screw loose somewhere, but I don't think I'd have to take off my shoes to count them.

As a musician in my 20's, I shared a house with 4 people. We partied every day and there were constantly people around all night. It was not unusual to wake up with strangers. From that experience, I would tell you that women do all sorts of things when they don't feel like they have to hold up appearances.

Well as long as everyone's signed an agreement that no matter what happens nobody will claim rape I guess it's cool. Hmmmm....I wonder if there will be a legal market for that? What could I call it? A "pre intercourse agreement"? Hmmmm.......

[RonPaulIsGreat]

Hmmm... I don't know how many women I've met that don't have at least one screw loose somewhere, but I don't think I'd have to take off my shoes to count them.

As a musician in my 20's, I shared a house with 4 people. We partied every day and there were constantly people around all night. It was not unusual to wake up with strangers. From that experience, I would tell you that women do all sorts of things when they don't feel like they have to hold up appearances.

That's not even the same thing.
1. Those people didn't sneak in your house.
2. Everyone in that house presumably was aware and accepting of that situation.

I mean my house isn't some hippy drug den filled with free love hot hippy chicks, if it was I wouldn't be surprised if all kinds of crazy sex $#@! was happening. We are talking about a normal dude in his bed sleeping. Not even the same thing. Context, people Context.

[CaptUSA]

That's not even the same thing.
1. Those people didn't sneak in your house.
2. Everyone in that house presumably was aware and accepting of that situation.

I mean my house isn't some hippy drug den filled with free love hot hippy chicks, if it was I wouldn't be surprised if all kinds of crazy sex $#@! was happening. We are talking about a normal dude in his bed sleeping. Not even the same thing. Context, people Context.

I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were there. Can you please tell us what context this was?

Or are you just making assumptions based on your own circumstances?

[CaptUSA]

Well as long as everyone's signed an agreement that no matter what happens nobody will claim rape I guess it's cool. Hmmmm....I wonder if there will be a legal market for that? What could I call it? A "pre intercourse agreement"? Hmmmm.......

Funny, back then false claims of rape were the last things from our minds. And if there were papers lying around, they were for different purposes. Really, the thing that concerned us most back then was VD. Hell, if you remember the PR campaigns back then, they used to scare the $#@! out of you making you think your penis would fall off if a girl touched it!

[RonPaulIsGreat]

I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were there. Can you please tell us what context this was?

Or are you just making assumptions based on your own circumstances?

Most articles post anomalies to the norm, they don't detail normal assumptions. So, on a range from your example and a dude sleeping in bed to be rested for tomorrows work day, most likely it's closer to the latter.

But I could be wrong, and the journalist could have failed to mention details important to the context, but highly doubt it, or else the dude wouldn't have called 911 to begin with.

[CaptUSA]

Most articles post anomalies to the norm, they don't detail normal assumptions. So, on a range from your example and a dude sleeping in bed for work, most likely it's closer to the latter.

But I could be wrong, and the journalist could have failed to mention details important to the context, but highly doubt it, or else the dude wouldn't have called 911 to begin with.

No, no...

I was responding to your claim that women wouldn't do this unless they were crazy. I was giving an example of how some women will do all sorts of things. I don't know the relationship between those two or how their circle of friends behave. In some circles, women would not feel at all inhibited from doing something like this. I'm sure she wasn't expecting the dude to call 911.

[jmdrake]

Funny, back then false claims of rape were the last things from our minds. And if there were papers lying around, they were for different purposes. Really, the thing that concerned us most back then was VD. Hell, if you remember the PR campaigns back then, they used to scare the $#@! out of you making you think your penis would fall off if a girl touched it!

But lawyers can't make money off of those other kinds of papers! (Well...unless you get caught with them and need a defense attorney.)

[jmdrake]

No, no...

I was responding to your claim that women wouldn't do this unless they were crazy. I was giving an example of how some women will do all sorts of things. I don't know the relationship between those two or how their circle of friends behave. In some circles, women would not feel at all inhibited from doing something like this. I'm sure she wasn't expecting the dude to call 911.

And the Duke lacrosse players weren't expecting to get charged with rape for firing a couple of strippers. This is the sad legal climate we live in thanks to puritanical feminism. The man in the OP protected his own legal position by calling the cops first. It's the same thing with assault. If you get into a fight, even if you are the one that started it, you're better of legally calling the cops first. They won't charge you with assault until the assault case against the person you actually assaulted is concluded in that person's favor. I've seen it happen. A woman assaulted a man. He had witnesses that she was the one in the wrong. He defended herself. She got a few bruises. She filed an assault charge against him. He tried to file one against her. He wasn't allowed to because she filed first. By the time he was cleared (the woman came to the courthouse but didn't make her presence known to the prosecutor because she knew we had caught her in a lie), he was so ready to be done with everything that he didn't file charges against her.

[Christian Liberty]

Call a friend if you need help.......

Contrary to what school children are taught cops are not your friends!

OK, so basically your problem was that he called cops. Dannno's problem was that he even felt like he needed help and that he didn't want to get raped.

Honestly, tod, I'd much rather live in the type of society when you called friends or neighbors when you needed help or when crimes happened, where peacekeeping was in some sense or another the duty of the entire community, and where government police weren't respected or trusted if they continued to exist at all.

Unfortunately, we don't. Unfortunately, if a non-cop uses violence they very likely get punished for it even if they were justified. And thus increasing the odds that a friend might not get involved.

Unfortunately, 90+% of this country still likes cops. You don't. I don't. But we're an extreme minority in this country. Most people still trust them. Perhaps that makes them stupid. But that applies to most people then, not just the guy in the OP.

[Suzanimal]

Well as long as everyone's signed an agreement that no matter what happens nobody will claim rape I guess it's cool. Hmmmm....I wonder if there will be a legal market for that? What could I call it? A "pre intercourse agreement"? Hmmmm.......

Love Contract

[Rothbardian Girl]

We are entering a strange new era where the government is trying to say it's rape whenever you have sex with someone without his/her express written or verbal consent. I was thinking about this the other day. Say if the woman initiates everything then claims you raped her? She says "Sure. I crawled into bed with him half naked. I rubbed up against him. One thing lead to another. But I didn't really want him to penetrate me. I didn't say no, but I didn't say yes either." The only way for a man to protect himself from that is to preemptively say that the woman raped him. Women crying rape after being rebuffed is as old as Joseph an Potiphar's wife. That's basically what happened in the Duke lacrosse rape case. Some frat boys called for some strippers. They didn't get the strippers they wanted. Ugly words were exchange by both sides. One stripper claimed she had been raped even though forensic evidence had shown that she hadn't had sex with anyone she accused of raping her. Had they had consensual sex with her, those men's lives would have been ruined forever.

Where are some of your statistics? How many false rape claims are there compared to the ones that go unreported? But which phenomenon gets more play in the media and in usual discussions?

It's as simple as this: if at any point during the encounter one party says no, it is the responsibility of the other person to stop. That is the cultural standard that needs to be and is being encouraged, and it's really not a difficult rule of thumb to follow, especially if the parties involved have a modicum of human decency. It's never as simple as telling the "jackass friend" to leave, and it is shocking and frankly disgusting that you would even suggest that. If he's violent enough to think penetration without her permission is acceptable, she has every right to infer that he wouldn't respond well to a "GTFO!". Shooting this scumbag would have been acceptable.

[Acala]

It seems to me that the first course of action is to try talking to her. Not just saying "get the hell out" Talking all night, if needed. Of course there is likely MUCH missing from the story, but wouldn't it make sense to talk her through whatever the problem is that brought her to this? Friendships and lives are at stake. If would be worth spending a lot of time trying to talk some sense into her rather than calling her husband. And I can't imagine calling the cops. It should be needless to say that someone often ends up dead or ruined that way.

[specsaregood]

It seems to me that the first course of action is to try talking to her. Not just saying "get the hell out" Talking all night, if needed. Of course there is likely MUCH missing from the story, but wouldn't it make sense to talk her through whatever the problem is that brought her to this? Friendships and lives are at stake. If would be worth spending a lot of time trying to talk some sense into her rather than calling her husband. And I can't imagine calling the cops. It should be needless to say that someone often ends up dead or ruined that way.

As you say, "Of course there is likely MUCH missing from the story". He might know her well enough to know that calling the cops was the best thing for him and her.

[jmdrake]

Where are some of your statistics? How many false rape claims are there compared to the ones that go unreported? But which phenomenon gets more play in the media and in usual discussions?

The supposedly unreported rapes are the ones getting all the rage. The Obama administration put forward bogus stats claiming 1 in 5 women in college were raped or sexually assaulted. That fake stat is being pushed as gospel when in fact it is based on a survey taken from only TWO college campuses and attempted kissing was included with attempted sexual assault. I would say most men straight have tried to kiss some woman at some point and have been rebuffed.

Read here if you want to know about the statistic. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...his-statistic/

But why does it even freaking matter? How many false claims of rape have to happen before it becomes wise for a man to play "preemptive victim" if a woman comes onto him that he doesn't want? The smart money is report her for sexual assault so that you don't become the victim of a rape witch hunt. It only has to happen once to you for it to be unacceptable.

It's as simple as this: if at any point during the encounter one party says no, it is the responsibility of the other person to stop.

Except IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE! The new rules being pushed by the puritanical feminists is that if nobody says "yes" that's the same as one party saying "no". What part of "The new rush being pushed is that stopping at no is no longer good enough" do you not understand?

That is the cultural standard that needs to be and is being encouraged, and it's really not a difficult rule of thumb to follow, especially if the parties involved have a modicum of human decency. It's never as simple as telling the "jackass friend" to leave, and it is shocking and frankly disgusting that you would even suggest that. If he's violent enough to think penetration without her permission is acceptable, she has every right to infer that he wouldn't respond well to a "GTFO!". Shooting this scumbag would have been acceptable.

She shouldn't have crawled into bed with him in the first place. She should have told him to leave once he started trying to mess with her. Why let this go on long enough for there to be a need for a shooting? Yes he should have taken her no for no (assuming that she isn't just lying about that. I have personal experience defending a client where I caught the woman perjuring herself in the rape claim. She claimed she had had no contact with the defendant until he showed up at her door, but cell phone messages showed she had sent nude pictures of herself to him just hours before. And this same crazy woman had herself been accused of raping a child, but the DA dropped the charges.) But men needing to take it upon themselves to leave when rebuffed doesn't negate the personal responsibility to tell someone to leave when you don't want them there. I'm going to cut myself and jump into a shark tank just so I can shoot the shark when I get bit? It's "shockingly disgusting" that anyone would be so stupid as to suggest that a woman should stay in bed with a man who has indicated that he's interested in sex when she is not. It's stupidity that what you are pushing that is why people think the "solution" to college sexual assaults is to put women in men's fraternity houses. Yeah. Having some young college woman living with a bunch of drunk college men is a way to stop sexual assault.

Edit: And using your own feminist logic, the man in the OP should have shot the woman that crawled in his bed without his knowledge and started giving him a blow job. That's what puritanical feminism gets you ultimately, more violence against women.

[Christian Liberty]

But even when a man doesn't use violence it's considered rape. If a woman gives into a man who's just too persistent because she tired and wants to get it over with and go to sleep, she can still claim rape and be taken seriously. You think I'm kidding? Read this column by George Will.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...f0a_story.html
Consider the supposed campus epidemic of rape, a.k.a. “sexual assault.” Herewith, a Philadelphia magazine report about Swarthmore College, where in 2013 a student “was in her room with a guy with whom she’d been hooking up for three months”:

“They’d now decided — mutually, she thought — just to be friends. When he ended up falling asleep on her bed, she changed into pajamas and climbed in next to him. Soon, he was putting his arm around her and taking off her clothes. ‘I basically said, “No, I don’t want to have sex with you.” And then he said, “OK, that’s fine” and stopped. . . . And then he started again a few minutes later, taking off my panties, taking off his boxers. I just kind of laid there and didn’t do anything — I had already said no. I was just tired and wanted to go to bed. I let him finish. I pulled my panties back on and went to sleep.’”

Six weeks later, the woman reported that she had been raped. Now the Obama administration is riding to the rescue of “sexual assault” victims. It vows to excavate equities from the ambiguities of the hookup culture, this cocktail of hormones, alcohol and the faux sophistication of today’s prolonged adolescence of especially privileged young adults.

Note that this woman could have told her jackass boyfriend to leave after he attempted to take her panties of the first time. She could have said get the hell out after the second time. But if you point out the obvious when the victim is a woman, you are accused of blaming the victim. Think I'm joking? George Will had members of congress writing scathing letters of rebuke to him for this column.

See: http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/...mn-190088.html

If she really didn't want to sleep with him, why in the world would she have just "laid there and let him finish"? And if she were that traumatized, why wait six weeks?

[Rothbardian Girl]

The supposedly unreported rapes are the ones getting all the rage. The Obama administration put forward bogus stats claiming 1 in 5 women in college were raped or sexually assaulted. That fake stat is being pushed as gospel when in fact it is based on a survey taken from only TWO college campuses and attempted kissing was included with attempted sexual assault. I would say most men straight have tried to kiss some woman at some point and have been rebuffed.

Read here if you want to know about the statistic. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...his-statistic/

But why does it even freaking matter? How many false claims of rape have to happen before it becomes wise for a man to play "preemptive victim" if a woman comes onto him that he doesn't want? The smart money is report her for sexual assault so that you don't become the victim of a rape witch hunt. It only has to happen once to you for it to be unacceptable.



Except IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE! The new rules being pushed by the puritanical feminists is that if nobody says "yes" that's the same as one party saying "no". What part of "The new rush being pushed is that stopping at no is no longer good enough" do you not understand?



She shouldn't have crawled into bed with him in the first place. She should have told him to leave once he started trying to mess with her. Why let this go on long enough for there to be a need for a shooting? Yes he should have taken her no for no (assuming that she isn't just lying about that. I have personal experience defending a client where I caught the woman perjuring herself in the rape claim. She claimed she had had no contact with the defendant until he showed up at her door, but cell phone messages showed she had sent nude pictures of herself to him just hours before. And this same crazy woman had herself been accused of raping a child, but the DA dropped the charges.) But men needing to take it upon themselves to leave when rebuffed doesn't negate the personal responsibility to tell someone to leave when you don't want them there. I'm going to cut myself and jump into a shark tank just so I can shoot the shark when I get bit? It's "shockingly disgusting" that anyone would be so stupid as to suggest that a woman should stay in bed with a man who has indicated that he's interested in sex when she is not. It's stupidity that what you are pushing that is why people think the "solution" to college sexual assaults is to put women in men's fraternity houses. Yeah. Having some young college woman living with a bunch of drunk college men is a way to stop sexual assault.

Edit: And using your own feminist logic, the man in the OP should have shot the woman that crawled in his bed without his knowledge and started giving him a blow job. That's what puritanical feminism gets you ultimately, more violence against women.

When she said she didn't want to have sex with him *before* any of it started, that was the signal for him to leave. Instead he predatorily laid in wait, knowing she feared his retaliation if she said no a second time, and used that fear to get his way.

FF, people wait until later to report assaults for a lot of reasons. Maybe what happened to them doesn't fit with their preconceived notions of sexual assault; this is probably the biggest reason. Maybe they fear retribution on the part of the attacker or the attacker's friends. Maybe they fear the police and attorney will judge them (this happens a lot, too). Related to that, they see a system choked with thousands of untested rape kits and see a system that is utterly unsympathetic to their plight.

[dannno]

When she said she didn't want to have sex with him *before* any of it started, that was the signal for him to leave. Instead he predatorily laid in wait, knowing she feared his retaliation if she said no a second time, and used that fear to get his way.

FF, people wait until later to report assaults for a lot of reasons. Maybe what happened to them doesn't fit with their preconceived notions of sexual assault; this is probably the biggest reason. Maybe they fear retribution on the part of the attacker or the attacker's friends. Maybe they fear the police and attorney will judge them (this happens a lot, too). Related to that, they see a system choked with thousands of untested rape kits and see a system that is utterly unsympathetic to their plight.

She didn't fear violence, she was just being lazy, she said it herself. In fact I've known some lazy women but this one is ridiculous, she can't even say the word "no" again which stopped him before and would have again if she just said it.. Then she could have said, "hey, no, I don't want to have sex tonight at all, please stop trying, it isn't going to happen." Then if he continued to be aggressive she could simply say, "hey, if you keep this up I'm going to _____________ (leave, call my male friend, call the police, insert your own response). Instead she 'chose' to be 'raped' and even admitted it was out of pure laziness. If she was afraid he would be violent if she said no then she wouldn't have said she stopped out of laziness. She was probably even in his bed, in which case why should HE leave?

[coastie]

Any chick that looks like that at 31, I wouldn't touch her. If you showed me that pic and said she was 45 I would have believed you without giving it a second thought.

My thoughts exactly. Seems she recently started her new meth habit.

[jmdrake]

When she said she didn't want to have sex with him *before* any of it started, that was the signal for him to leave. Instead he predatorily laid in wait, knowing she feared his retaliation if she said no a second time, and used that fear to get his way.

Ah. So women are incapable of uttering the words "I want you to leave." Got it. And now you are calling this woman a liar. She said nothing about retaliation. Instead she said she went along with it because she wanted to get it over with so that she could got back to sleep.

[jmdrake]

She didn't fear violence, she was just being lazy, she said it herself. In fact I've known some lazy women but this one is ridiculous, she can't even say the word "no" again which stopped him before and would have again if she just said it.. Then she could have said, "hey, no, I don't want to have sex tonight at all, please stop trying, it isn't going to happen." Then if he continued to be aggressive she could simply say, "hey, if you keep this up I'm going to _____________ (leave, call my male friend, call the police, insert your own response). Instead she 'chose' to be 'raped' and even admitted it was out of pure laziness. If she was afraid he would be violent if she said no then she wouldn't have said she stopped out of laziness. She was probably even in his bed, in which case why should HE leave?

She was in her own bed. He had come over to talk, fell asleep, then she put on her PJs and crawled into bed with him. That said I don't think she should have said "no" the second time. She should have said "leave" the first time. But you are 100% right. She expressed no fear of violence or retaliation. Rothbardian girl just made that part up because she realizes how retarded the story sounds otherwise.