They let filmstars get away with drug 'offences' time after time into rehab because they give people the impression or hope that escape is possible (or we wouldn't suspend disbelief when watching them in some state sanctioned support role)
Originally Posted by RonPaulIsGreat
Boo!!! I was Rooting for the guy. Sad they found him so close to home. I had hoped he'd be in another state. I'm sure he will see plenty of "just-us"
This is a complicated case at first glance. I hope he had a legitimate reason for killing and injuring the state troopers. With that said, I'm not buying the whole coward angle being parroted on the news. When they send a SWAT team to your home at 3 AM, wouldn't that be considered "cowardly?"
Absolutely!
Yes , bad form in fact .
They don't even come close.
The only time you can count on them "getting their man" is when an orgasm of resources spew forth to catch somebody accused of killing one of the King's Men.
Report Shows High Number of Unsolved Murders in U.S.
Posted: Jun 04, 2010 12:58 AM EST Updated: Jun 04, 2010 10:31 AM EST
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/125931...-murders-in-us
LAS VEGAS- Each year 6,000 killers get away with murder in America. That's according to a study of FBI records. The study found the rate of solved homicides since 1980 nationwide is 63%. In Clark County, the rate is 57%.
It's the "probably" that's important.
Innocent until PROVEN guilty is an essential to freedom- not vs/vs.
There is no spoon.
Exactly.
There is an accusation that he shot the Cops.. but little proof of such. Just the media repeating the accusation.
just like the Dorner incident. Accusations,, repeated by media,, with no actual evidence presented.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
didn't put up a fight......yet he looks like Foreman after Ali kicked his ass......wait...he must've tripped getting into the car or somethin'...
Poor bastard is gonna "trip on the soap in the shower" 100 times in the next few weeks.
being in hell has many definitions...
i don't condone what he 'ALLEGEDLY' did................but i completely understand why...
I can only assume they started spreading that meme when they picked up that some people were starting to push a hero meme online and around. Wouldn't want any other would-be shooters to think they would come off as heros/noble or any such idea. Make sure anybody wishing to copy his actions knows before hand that they will go down in the books as a coward.
What do you mean "ancap prejudice" exactly?
I explained why. Its because of the sheer amount of power involved. Those people have the legal right to have their way with you, and you will be killed if you resist. That's why.I could take an accusation like this from a theonomist, but the average Christian just totally makes up their list of crimes as they go along. At least I have reasons for mine.
You have made up your own set of capital crimes, 'Freedom Fanatics Torah' we could call it.
That is the reason for the overwhelming cop response, and why they'll kill this man inside of two years.
You do not DARE raise your hand to a King's Man, knave,
I'm surprised they don't draw and quarter him and send his body parts to all four corners of the King's Realm, like they did to William Wallace.
Hero for doing what? Either he shot someone unprovoked (and he's a murderer) or he didn't (and hes a guy running around in the woods for no particular reason).I will take this down, if and when I determine he is guilty of murder. Until then:
The more prohibitions you have,
the less virtuous people will be.
The more weapons you have,
the less secure people will be.
The more subsidies you have,
the less self-reliant people will be.
Therefore the Master says:
I let go of the law,
and people become honest.
I let go of economics,
and people become prosperous.
I let go of religion,
and people become serene.
I let go of all desire for the common good,
and the good becomes common as grass.
-Tao Te Ching, Section 57
We really don't know what his motivations are. He could be a complete crackpot for all we know.
Tell that to the people on this thread who have already convicted the police of beating Frein.
What do you mean no evidence presented? Do you want them to fly you out to the crime scene so you can investigate yourself?
The more prohibitions you have,
the less virtuous people will be.
The more weapons you have,
the less secure people will be.
The more subsidies you have,
the less self-reliant people will be.
Therefore the Master says:
I let go of the law,
and people become honest.
I let go of economics,
and people become prosperous.
I let go of religion,
and people become serene.
I let go of all desire for the common good,
and the good becomes common as grass.
-Tao Te Ching, Section 57
True enough. He could have had a reason in his head to kill the cop, but that does not justify him in taking another human life. Unless he was in imminent danger, which does not seem to be the case in the initial shooting.
The more prohibitions you have,
the less virtuous people will be.
The more weapons you have,
the less secure people will be.
The more subsidies you have,
the less self-reliant people will be.
Therefore the Master says:
I let go of the law,
and people become honest.
I let go of economics,
and people become prosperous.
I let go of religion,
and people become serene.
I let go of all desire for the common good,
and the good becomes common as grass.
-Tao Te Ching, Section 57
uh...no...we get our facts from Hannity around here...
NO.
That is what a trial is for. But he was executed (Dorner) without trial.
(the intent to execute was clear from the citizens shot)
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
There is such a thing as Justifiable Homicide..
I have no idea if this was the case. but then I have no idea if he was in, fact, the shooter.
It is clear that he was not "hunting cops" as was reported earlier. If he had been,, there would have been more dead cops.
He may have been hiding simply because he knew he was set up for it.
It is not likely he will get a fair trial
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
My point is, unless you go there yourself and see the evidence in person, there's always someone presenting the news to you. pcosmar always brings this up as a reason not to believe the "official story". But it is ALWAYS the case.
By his logic Frein might not even exist. He might be a completely made up person.
The more prohibitions you have,
the less virtuous people will be.
The more weapons you have,
the less secure people will be.
The more subsidies you have,
the less self-reliant people will be.
Therefore the Master says:
I let go of the law,
and people become honest.
I let go of economics,
and people become prosperous.
I let go of religion,
and people become serene.
I let go of all desire for the common good,
and the good becomes common as grass.
-Tao Te Ching, Section 57
As with all stories presented by people that are known liars,, any story is questionable.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
wouldn't it be nice to live in a society where everyone was truthful and forthright?...
This is why i donate to SETI....
It would be nice if honesty was not so damn rare.
If reporters actually asked questions, rather than parroting the "Official Reports". or worse yet,,copy/pasting AP and Reuters.
My personal suspicion,, after following this case loosely.. is that IF he did in fact kill this cop,, it was for a specific reason,, and whether that reason was a good one or not,,, would be up to a jury to decide.
There is obviously more to this than the propaganda outlets want to publish.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Really? He is a hero because for seven weeks he single-handedly outwitted a corrupt government who used 9.6 million FRNs worth of resources.
You and I know that, if innocent, he wasn't "running around in the woods for no particular reason."
OK, I'll bite. This is what stinks about the whole story:
They found his SUV crashed in a swamp 3 days after the shooting. In it they found 2 rifle cases, supplies, his drivers licence and shell cases from the shooting...
First off, his license plates would be enough to ID the SUV as his. Why did he leave his drivers licence in there? It sort of reminds me of that totally unscathed passport found on the ground in front of the WTC on 9/11 - really fishy.
Second, they didn't have the rifle until yesterday. You need physical possession of a firearm before you can forensically match ejection and fireing pin marks to it, so how did they know that brass was associated with the shooting?
They announced really too soon that he was captured with the murder weapon. Even being put in the front of the line and given a rush priority, that's way too fast for the results to definitely say that.
So yeah, some fishy things here.
-t
Outwitting people we already know to be incompetent is a heroic thing? Causing millions of dollars to be wasted paying cops' over time is heroic?
Obama outwitted the american people and is wasting money; he must be a hero!
The more prohibitions you have,
the less virtuous people will be.
The more weapons you have,
the less secure people will be.
The more subsidies you have,
the less self-reliant people will be.
Therefore the Master says:
I let go of the law,
and people become honest.
I let go of economics,
and people become prosperous.
I let go of religion,
and people become serene.
I let go of all desire for the common good,
and the good becomes common as grass.
-Tao Te Ching, Section 57
Or option three,, he is innocent and was running because he was accused and had no way of defending himself against the charge,, or those trying to kill him.
Or option 4,, he shot a criminal that is/was being protected by the State.
I have come to NO Conclusions.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
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