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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    And it's actually harsh, by the way. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.

    Really, a self contained biome would be the same whether it was under the ocean, in Antarctica, on the Moon or on Mars. Though frankly Mars would be a lot more survivable long term than Luna. Luna will ever be a commercial/industrial waypoint.

    We could claim a nation on Mars, get some whack-brained billionaires on board and go 'practice' living in a self contained biome in Antarctica. After 25 years of established biome perfection, launch everything to the Red Planet and set up an independent libertarian colony.
    Imagine the inevitable saboteurs and false flags.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by tangent4ronpaul View Post
    They seem to think they own the moon too. They stuck a flag into it, after all...

    -t
    The flag fell when they took off. Seriously. It's lying on the moon's surface.
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    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
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    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
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    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulConventionWV View Post
    Wow.

    How long does that take?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Islands

    The Jan De Nul Group started working on the Palm Jebel Ali in 2001 and had finished by the end of 2006.
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by staerker View Post
    Imagine the inevitable saboteurs and false flags.
    More likely to have to deal with "liber-whatever" people who just want to go live on Mars. If I weren't already sold out on liberty, I might be "liber-whatever" just to go live on Mars.

  7. #35
    Antarctica by Accident

    I hurt my knee and ended up in Antarctica....



    Yes, this is Antarctica:



    But so is this:










  8. #36
    Yes, this is Antarctica:
    perdy!

    -t

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    The flag fell when they took off. Seriously. It's lying on the moon's surface.
    So does it not count if the flag falls over?



    -t

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    But the moon has rocks. Big rocks. And it wobbles around at the top of a pretty steep gravity well.
    GOOD! That means Earth wouldn't $#@! with us!

    -t

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    It's so strange. 20 years ago Al gore was proclaiming metal, devil music that is destroying the youth, now they get sponsored by Coca-cola. It's laughable.



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by tangent4ronpaul View Post
    So does it not count if the flag falls over?



    -t
    Well, there's probably a ton of dust on top of it as well now. You'd need an archeology team to find it probably.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    Well, there's probably a ton of dust on top of it as well now. You'd need an archeology team to find it probably.
    Not really, no. There is nothing going on to kick up dust, really. I don't think there have been an extraordinary number of meteor strikes on the moon since the 1960's.

    I say, bleached completely white from the hyper UV, laying on the regolith, with only a sprinkling of dust.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    Not really, no. There is nothing going on to kick up dust, really. I don't think there have been an extraordinary number of meteor strikes on the moon since the 1960's.

    I say, bleached completely white from the hyper UV, laying on the regolith, with only a sprinkling of dust.
    From wiki:
    There is some evidence that the Moon may have a tenuous atmosphere of moving dust particles constantly leaping up from and falling back to the Moon's surface, giving rise to a "dust atmosphere" that looks static but is composed of dust particles in constant motion. The term "Moon fountain" has been used to describe this effect by analogy with the stream of molecules of water in a fountain following a ballistic trajectory while appearing static due to the constancy of the stream. According to a model proposed in 2005 by Timothy J. Stubbs, Richard R. Vondrak, and William M. Farrell of the Laboratory for Extraterrestrial Physics at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, [4] this is caused by electrostatic levitation. On the daylit side of the Moon, solar ultraviolet and X-ray radiation is energetic enough to knock electrons out of atoms and molecules in the lunar soil. Positive charges build up until the tiniest particles of lunar dust (measuring 1 micrometre and smaller) are repelled from the surface and lofted anywhere from metres to kilometres high, with the smallest particles reaching the highest altitudes. Eventually they fall back toward the surface where the process is repeated over and over again. On the night side, the dust is negatively charged by electrons in the solar wind. Indeed, the fountain model suggests that the night side would charge up to higher voltages than the day side, possibly launching dust particles to higher velocities and altitudes. [5] This effect could be further enhanced during the portion of the Moon's orbit where it passes through Earth's magnetotail; see Magnetic field of the Moon for more detail. [6] On the terminator there could be significant horizontal electric fields forming between the day and night areas, resulting in horizontal dust transport - a form of "moon storm".[5][7]

    There is some evidence for this effect. In the early 1960s before Apollo 11, Surveyor 7 [8] and several subsequent Surveyor spacecraft that soft-landed on the Moon returned photographs showing an unmistakable twilight glow low over the lunar horizon persisting after the Sun had set.[5] Moreover, the distant horizon between land and sky did not look razor-sharp, as would have been expected in a vacuum where there was no atmospheric haze. Apollo 17 astronauts orbiting the Moon in 1972 repeatedly saw and sketched what they variously called "bands," "streamers" or "twilight rays" for about 10 seconds before lunar sunrise or lunar sunset. Such rays were also reported by astronauts aboard Apollo 8, 10, and 15. These may have been similar to crepuscular rays on Earth.[5]

    Apollo 17 also placed an experiment on the Moon's surface called LEAM, short for Lunar Ejecta and Meteorites. It was designed to look for dust kicked up by small meteoroids hitting the Moon's surface. It had three sensors that could record the speed, energy, and direction of tiny particles: one each pointing up, east, and west. LEAM saw a large number of particles every morning, mostly coming from the east or west—rather than above or below—and mostly slower than speeds expected for lunar ejecta. Also, a few hours after every lunar sunrise, the experiment's temperature increased to near 100 C that LEAM had to be turned off because it was overheating. It is speculated that this could have been a result of electrically-charged moondust sticking to LEAM, darkening its surface so the experiment package absorbed rather than reflected sunlight.[7]

    It's even possible that these storms have been spotted from Earth: For centuries, there have been reports of strange glowing lights on the Moon, known as "Transient lunar phenomenon" or TLPs. Some TLPs have been observed as momentary flashes—now generally accepted to be visible evidence of meteoroids impacting the lunar surface. But others have appeared as amorphous reddish or whitish glows or even as dusky hazy regions that change shape or disappear over seconds or minutes. These may have been a result of sunlight reflecting off of suspended lunar dust.[7]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_soil

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