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He's asked me to share this video on here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-MIZZ7NBlE
Those who want liberty must organize as effectively as those who want tyranny. -- Iyad el Baghdadi
Luctor et emergo lives in the Netherlands - maybe he could go there?
Those who want liberty must organize as effectively as those who want tyranny. -- Iyad el Baghdadi
Where is Iyad now ?
Those who want liberty must organize as effectively as those who want tyranny. -- Iyad el Baghdadi
http://www.el-baghdadi.com/index.php...nism-and-islam
More at link...haven't read it all yet myself.Philosophical libertarianism and Islam
In my search in early Islamic intellectual history I noticed that early interpretations about free will were philosophically libertarian. In a free will context, "Libertarian" means the position that human beings have true free will, and a rejection of determinism. Pre-Islamic Quraysh, on the other hand, were hard determinists. They even commonly blamed their own immorality and excesses on fate. The Umayyads (direct as well as cultural descendants of Quraysh) would later seek to promote hard determinism under various guises. Umayyads (especially in their middle period) referred to fatalism in order to justify their own tyranny and to discourage rebellion.
Among the earliest "heretics" killed by the Umayyads was Ghaylan al Dimashqi, who was previously in the employ of Umar bin Abdulaziz. Umar bin Abdulaziz had tried to reverse the Umayyad trend, and appointed Ghaylan to return Umayyad family largesse back to the people. Ghaylan was both harsh and upfront about his despise and disgust with Umayyad excesses. After Umar's death he "had to go". So Umar's successors accused Ghaylan of being a "Qadari" (that he didn't believe in predestination) and tortured him to death for heresy. Till today he's often referred to as "Ghaylan al Qadari", although he almost certainly did not reject "qadar" (God's power on all things). If he had really been a heretic, Umar bin Abdulaziz (who was very selective) wouldn't have put him in such a high position. But then again history is written by the victors, and Ghaylan's story was written not by him but by those who put him to death for heresy.
Those who want liberty must organize as effectively as those who want tyranny. -- Iyad el Baghdadi
http://www.el-baghdadi.com/index.php...nism-and-islam
More at link...haven't read it all yet myself.Philosophical libertarianism and Islam
In my search in early Islamic intellectual history I noticed that early interpretations about free will were philosophically libertarian. In a free will context, "Libertarian" means the position that human beings have true free will, and a rejection of determinism. Pre-Islamic Quraysh, on the other hand, were hard determinists. They even commonly blamed their own immorality and excesses on fate. The Umayyads (direct as well as cultural descendants of Quraysh) would later seek to promote hard determinism under various guises. Umayyads (especially in their middle period) referred to fatalism in order to justify their own tyranny and to discourage rebellion.
Among the earliest "heretics" killed by the Umayyads was Ghaylan al Dimashqi, who was previously in the employ of Umar bin Abdulaziz. Umar bin Abdulaziz had tried to reverse the Umayyad trend, and appointed Ghaylan to return Umayyad family largesse back to the people. Ghaylan was both harsh and upfront about his despise and disgust with Umayyad excesses. After Umar's death he "had to go". So Umar's successors accused Ghaylan of being a "Qadari" (that he didn't believe in predestination) and tortured him to death for heresy. Till today he's often referred to as "Ghaylan al Qadari", although he almost certainly did not reject "qadar" (God's power on all things). If he had really been a heretic, Umar bin Abdulaziz (who was very selective) wouldn't have put him in such a high position. But then again history is written by the victors, and Ghaylan's story was written not by him but by those who put him to death for heresy.
Those who want liberty must organize as effectively as those who want tyranny. -- Iyad el Baghdadi
Last edited by Weston White; 11-02-2014 at 09:17 AM.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding one’s self in the ranks of the insane.” — Marcus Aurelius
“They’re not buying it. CNN, you dumb bastards!” — President Trump 2020
Consilio et Animis de Oppresso Liber
off (maybe on) topic: can someone tell me the name that Mr. Snowden posted here please?
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just a libertarian - no caucus
It doesn't seem that he ever posted here. One of his known names is TheTrueHOOHA, see more at: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...nment-to-Girls
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding one’s self in the ranks of the insane.” — Marcus Aurelius
“They’re not buying it. CNN, you dumb bastards!” — President Trump 2020
Consilio et Animis de Oppresso Liber
FYI: Iyad got to see his wife, baby boy on his 1st birthday and his own 38th birthday. Hoping this is permanent for him, but I don't have any details.
Those who want liberty must organize as effectively as those who want tyranny. -- Iyad el Baghdadi
Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.
Duty is the most sublime word in the English language. Do your duty in all things. You can not do more than your duty. You should never wish to do less than your duty.
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