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    Difference between Apes and Hominids

    Difference between Apes and Hominids

    There is a great difference between the apes and hominids. Apes can be found in trees and also on the land while hominids are exclusively terrestrial. Apes are not fully bipedal like the hominids. Hominids also have a unique characteristic that shows pair bonding with another member and also having a home base, where apes lack that certain developmental trait. It has been shown that apes are not very good with food sharing, while hominids have been shown to care and share food with other members of the group. This is also a development of social groups. Hominids such as the **** habilis, were discovered with the first making and use of tools and also fire. Apes have not found the ability to make and use tools. Scientific studies also show that the apes have a much smaller brain than the hominids resulting in these vast differences between the two groups.

    http://bcrc.bio.umass.edu/courses/fa...s-and-hominids

    Then how come our DNA is 98% the same as chimps and 95% the same as gorillas? Chimps are closer to us than to gorillas.

    What is wrong with this picture?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    http://bcrc.bio.umass.edu/courses/fa...s-and-hominids

    Then how come our DNA is 98% the same as chimps and 95% the same as gorillas? Chimps are closer to us than to gorillas.

    What is wrong with this picture?
    First of all, science does not fully understand how DNA works.

    Secondly, most of DNA relates to things that are unseen - like cell structure, protein synthesis, metabolic processes, etc. We share the vast majority of our DNA with even simpler organisms like fish. In the large scheme of things, the differences between chimps and hominids are tiny and can be managed by very small changes in DNA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    First of all, science does not fully understand how DNA works.

    Secondly, most of DNA relates to things that are unseen - like cell structure, protein synthesis, metabolic processes, etc. We share the vast majority of our DNA with even simpler organisms like fish. In the large scheme of things, the differences between chimps and hominids are tiny and can be managed by very small changes in DNA.
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    You share 50% of your DNA with bananas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    You share 50% of your DNA with bananas.
    And about 60% with a fruit fly.
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    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    You share 50% of your DNA with bananas.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    And about 60% with a fruit fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    And about 60% with a fruit fly.
    Yeah, that's because fruit flies have a higher concentration of banana DNA in them than Bananas do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Yeah, that's because fruit flies have a higher concentration of banana DNA in them than Bananas do...
    Fruit flies like a banana. Time flies like an arrow.

    But I don't know what (kind of) flies like a giraffe ...
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 10-24-2014 at 06:24 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    http://bcrc.bio.umass.edu/courses/fa...s-and-hominids

    Then how come our DNA is 98% the same as chimps and 95% the same as gorillas? Chimps are closer to us than to gorillas.

    What is wrong with this picture?
    Chimps and gorillas are both apes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Fruit flies like a banana. Time flies like an arrow.

    But I don't know what (kind of) files like a giraffe ...
    Biting mosquito's are friends with giraffes.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    You share 50% of your DNA with bananas.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    And about 60% with a fruit fly.
    It looks like both of these claims are inaccurate.
    http://genetics.thetech.org/online-e...s/genes-common

    ETA: What do I know? Here's something on the 60% with the fruit fly.
    http://www.genome.gov/10005835
    Last edited by erowe1; 10-24-2014 at 06:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Yeah, that's because fruit flies have a higher concentration of banana DNA in them than Bananas do...
    Wait for it.......


    Wait for it.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    It looks like both of these claims are inaccurate.
    http://genetics.thetech.org/online-e...s/genes-common
    At least we are 85% Zebra fish, maybe they are our grandparents.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    It looks like both of these claims are inaccurate.
    http://genetics.thetech.org/online-e...s/genes-common

    ETA: What do I know? Here's something on the 60% with the fruit fly.
    http://www.genome.gov/10005835
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    It looks like both of these claims are inaccurate.
    http://genetics.thetech.org/online-e...s/genes-common

    ETA: What do I know? Here's something on the 60% with the fruit fly.
    http://www.genome.gov/10005835

    Uh no...

    The fledgling field of comparative genomics has already yielded some dramatic results. For example, a March 2000 study comparing the fruit fly genome with the human genome discovered that about 60 percent of genes are conserved between fly and human. Or, to put it more simply, the two organisms appear to share a core set of genes. Researchers have found that two-thirds of human cancer genes have counterparts in the fruit fly. Even more surprisingly, when scientists inserted a human gene associated with early-onset Parkinson's disease into fruit flies, they displayed symptoms similar to those seen in humans with the disorder, raising the possibility that the tiny insects could serve as a new model for testing therapies aimed at Parkinson's.
    http://www.genome.gov/10005835

    N/M you caught it.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    First of all, science does not fully understand how DNA works.

    Secondly, most of DNA relates to things that are unseen - like cell structure, protein synthesis, metabolic processes, etc. We share the vast majority of our DNA with even simpler organisms like fish. In the large scheme of things, the differences between chimps and hominids are tiny and can be managed by very small changes in DNA.
    That is actually not true. Science understands DNA very well. The problem is that humans carry along DNA as they evolve which means that you can find some of the DNAs that we used when we were say a single cell organism. I don't remember the percentage anymore, but only a small fraction of your DNA actually code for any protein in humans. If you actually checked for the DNAs that actually coded for proteins in humans and chimps, you will then see the real difference between the 2.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    Wait for it.......


    Wait for it.......


    Ye are wha' ye' eat, lassie!
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




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    Yep, I still think our species is a genetically engineered hybrid.



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