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    Rand Paul to lay out foreign policy vision

    Rand Paul to lay out foreign policy vision

    By MANU RAJU | 10/23/14 6:00 AM EDT

    Rand Paul, whose foreign policy views have become a frequent target of his GOP critics, will use a high-profile speech in New York on Thursday to urge the United States to exercise restraint when engaging in wars overseas.

    At a dinner hosted by the Center for the National Interest, the libertarian-minded Kentucky senator, a potential White House contender in 2016, will argue for “limits” on U.S. engagement in military conflicts. It’s a view that runs counter to the hawks among his fellow Republicans who have called for a more aggressive American presence in hot spots in the Middle East.

    “America shouldn’t fight wars where the best outcome is stalemate,” Paul plans to say, according to excerpts provided by his office. “America shouldn’t fight wars when there is no plan for victory. America shouldn’t fight wars that aren’t authorized by the American people, by Congress. America should and will fight wars when the consequences — intended and unintended — are worth the sacrifice.”

    Paul plans to add: “After the tragedies of Iraq and Libya, Americans are right to expect more from their country when we go to war.”

    Paul aides say the speech will be the first time the freshman senator fully spells out his “conservative realist” foreign policy, outlining how he views international trade, diplomacy and the national debt as it relates to national security.

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    http://www.politico.com/story/2014/1...cy-112126.html



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    Rand Paul to lay out four-pronged platform on foreign policy

    By Ashley Killough
    Thu October 23, 2014

    (CNN) -- For the first time since facing an onslaught of criticism this year over his foreign policy views, Sen. Rand Paul will spell out his comprehensive national security platform Thursday in remarks that his office bills as a major foreign policy speech.

    The Kentucky Republican, who's aggressively laying groundwork for a potential presidential campaign, is set to deliver his address in New York at the Center for the National Interest, a think-tank founded by former President Richard Nixon.

    In a four-pronged framework Paul will attempt to cement himself as a "conservative realist," according to his spokesman, and address critics that characterize his views as isolationist.

    "America should and will fight wars when the consequences—intended and unintended—are worth the sacrifice," he will say, according to prepared remarks.

    Paul has tried to defend his traditionally non-interventionist positions in interviews and high-profile Senate floor speeches this year, as well as a speech early last year at the Heritage Foundation.

    But he aims to approach his speech Thursday from the perspective of a major, would-be U.S. leader, rather than a lawmaker, according to his spokesman.

    In four points, he'll outline how and when he would advocate for the use of force if the U.S. or U.S. interests are threatened, and he'll underscore his widely-known position that a U.S. president should seek authorization from Congress before taking military action.

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    Rand Paul’s Non-Isolationism
    A preview of an important foreign-policy speech he’ll give Thursday night

    By Eliana Johnson
    OCTOBER 23, 2014 1:15 AM

    If at first you don’t succeed, try, try, try again. That, apparently, is Rand Paul’s approach to convincing the political establishment and, perhaps more important, Republican-primary voters, that he is not an isolationist.

    He’s said it on television, he’s declared it in print, and, on Thursday evening, he’ll proclaim it again to a ballroom full of foreign-policy realists.

    So, if he’s not an isolationist, what is he? The “non-interventionist” label the Kentucky senator has offered up doesn’t seem to have stuck; in tonight’s remarks, he’ll embrace a new one: “conservative realist.”

    In New York to deliver the keynote address at the Center for the National Interest’s annual dinner and to receive an award from the foreign-policy organization, which was founded by Richard Nixon in 1994, Paul will offer a sweeping picture of his worldview for the first time.

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    In his speech, an advance copy of which has been shared exclusively with National Review Online, he will outline a number of national-security threats, from Russia to China to the Middle East, and his proposals for dealing with them. But he will cut to the chase early, arguing that “the greatest threat to our national security is our national debt.” That’s why, he will say, the promotion of free trade and technology should lead our public-diplomacy efforts.

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    Interesting that he has to keep doing this.

    The problem is that the neocons will find a way to pick it apart enough to keep their base frightened of his position. I've heard it over and over, "I like Rand Paul, but he scares me on foreign policy". It's like they have that line permanently affixed to their frontal lobes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    It's like they have that line permanently affixed to their frontal lobes.
    Because they know that if you just keep repeating it, the non critical thinkers will just accept it as fact.

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    So, if he’s not an isolationist, what is he? The “non-interventionist” label the Kentucky senator has offered up doesn’t seem to have stuck; in tonight’s remarks, he’ll embrace a new one: “conservative realist.”

    Problem = ask boobus what the difference is between "non-interventist" and "isolationist"

    Result = "there's a difference?"

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    I have a feeling he might have been planning to do this earlier, but decided against it because of the ISIS hysteria. Now that the focus has shifted a bit and the Obama admin has already goofed on the weapons, it's a better time to make the case
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    I'm very much looking forward to hearing Rand's latest perspective on this topic.

    lead on.
    The bigger government gets, the smaller I wish it was.
    My new motto: More Love, Less Laws



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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    I've heard it over and over, "I like Rand Paul, but he scares me on foreign policy". It's like they have that line permanently affixed to their frontal lobes.
    And Rand is a moderate on foreign policy issues. He's right in the middle. It just shows how extreme those people are.

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    This article appeared on yahoo news. Not looking good. Half is negative. The positive comments have down votes. But a lot of negatives target his character is the usual d vs r insults.

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    Anyone know if this will be live streamed?

    I couldn't find anything..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traditional Conservative View Post
    And Rand is a moderate on foreign policy issues. He's right in the middle. It just shows how extreme those people are.
    Amen!
    Experience teaches us that it is much easier to prevent an enemy from posting themselves than it is to dislodge them after they have got possession.
    ~ George Washington

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    It's 8:39 P.M. EST. The speech must be happening by now..



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