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    Call the Suicide Prevention Hotline — Get Killed by a SWAT Team

    Will Grigg:

    A still-unidentified 35-year-old man from Roy, Utah called a suicide prevention hotline at 4:00 a.m. Tuesday morning (October 21). A SWAT team showed up and, according to Roy PD spokesman Matt Gwynn, “negotiated” with the “subject” for more than six hours.

    “At some point those negotiations failed and unfortunately the SWAT team was involved in a shooting, and the subject is now deceased,” Gwynn told a reporter for the Ogden Standard-Examiner, taking refuge in the familiar, officially-prescribed impersonal language used to describe police shootings.

    Eyewitness Ron Smith told the Standard-Examiner that he heard “one shot, and then a pause, and then four or five shots after that, that were very rapid.”
    Although he provided no further details from the incident — not even the name of the victim — Gwynn quickly asserted the reasonableness of the lethal actions by his fellow officers.

    “officers are authorized to stop a threat whenever their life is threatened, or the life of another is threatened,” recited Gwynn. “And at that point if the officer feels he is justified, he may act to stop that threat.” Note, once again, how Gwynn scrupulously avoids the use of descriptive language acknowledging that one of his comrades just killed another human being.

    Police are trained and encouraged to perceive the public at large to be a “threat” to “officer safety”; one illustration of this is the fact that as Gwynn spoke to the reporter in an otherwise placid neighborhood he was wearing body armor beneath his polo shirt. In a situation involving a potentially suicidal person, the formula regurgitated by Detective Gwynn would justify pre-emptive execution of the “subject,” who is, after all, threatening to kill someone.

    “We encourage those having suicidal thoughts or tendencies to contact a physician or expert that can talk them through it,” advised Gwynn. “In this particular case he attempted to do that — it’s unfortunate and sad that it failed.”

    Gwynn appeared utterly insensible of how his advice would appear to anybody paying attention: Suicidally depressed people who call for help will invariably attract the attention of state functionaries endowed with the power of discretionary killing.



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    A suicide was successfully prevented - whats yer problem?

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    Don't kill yourself or we'll shoot?
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    “At some point those negotiations failed and unfortunately the SWAT team was involved in a shooting, and the subject is now deceased,” Gwynn told a reporter for the Ogden Standard-Examiner, taking refuge in the familiar, officially-prescribed impersonal language used to describe police shootings.

    [...]

    “officers are authorized to stop a threat whenever their life is threatened, or the life of another is threatened,” recited Gwynn. “And at that point if the officer feels he is justified, he may act to stop that threat.” Note, once again, how Gwynn scrupulously avoids the use of descriptive language acknowledging that one of his comrades just killed another human being.
    His calling these $#@!s out for their mealy-mouthed bull$#@! is just one of the many reasons I love Will Grigg.

    The thing about reportage of these kinds of stories that pisses me off more than anything else is how "journalists" and police routinely indulge in grotesque euphemisms and sanitized circumlocutions when describing killings by police.

    One of the most disgusting examples of this is when two NBC "journalists" described the slaying of Miriam Carey as follows:
    The police shot at her, and she died a short time later.
    See what I mean? The police didn't "shoot her" - they shot "at" her.
    And apparently coincidentally, "she died a short time later." (Of what? A heart attack? Old age? Ebola? )
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    Well hell, there you go...suicide prevented.

    High fives!

    BugSplat!

    RTB.

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    You all have it wrong.

    He actually succeeded in convincing the SWAT team to kill him, so really, they just ran into a man who made a really persuasive case for suicide by cop.
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    In a situation involving a potentially suicidal person, the formula regurgitated by Detective Gwynn would justify pre-emptive execution of the “subject,” who is, after all, threatening to kill someone.
    Well, thank God the crime of suicide was prevented.

    And since cold-blooded murder is not a crime when a SWAT team does it...
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    Apparently the man called the number for the Suicide Enforcement Hotline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Apparently the man called the number for the Suicide Enforcement Hotline.
    Whose staff were at the ready on the same switchboard / dispatch center.
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