More Vietnam Vets Have Committed Suicide than Were Killed in the War

[Ronin Truth]

More Vietnam Vets Have Committed Suicide than Were Killed in the War

Laurence M. Vance

That is what Marjorie Cohn claims out in “US Government Sanitizes Vietnam War History.” Having written about military suicides several times, I have no doubt that what she says is true. What any of these Vietnam vet have committed if they had not gone to Vietnam. Perhaps a few. But not 58,000. Suicide is what fighting an unjust and immoral war leads to. I can’t imagine large numbers of men committing suicide years after actually defending the United States from attack.

Stay out of the military–you might commit suicide later. And that is no hyperbole.

6:39 pm on October 21, 2014

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http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/...ed-in-the-war/

[donnay]

What a shame. That war should have never happen. The soldiers are basic cannon fodder--this government does not care whether they live or die.


“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.” ~ Henry Kissinger

[Aratus]

Today's War on Terror is as manipulatively heartless and dysfunctional as was our Crusade Against Godless Communism.
Expect the PTSD wounds in today's young people to have an equally depressing tally over the next three to five decades.

[Spikender]

Thanks to war-mongerers, war profiteers, bankers, and power-hungry people everywhere... that generation of young men was basically $#@!ED.

An entire generation.

[Ronin Truth]

Thanks to war-mongerers, war profiteers, bankers, and power-hungry people everywhere... that generation of young men was basically $#@!ED.

An entire generation.

There are 78,000,000 Boomers, ~57,000 Viet Nam US soldier deaths. Hardly an entire generation, not even close.

[Spikender]

There are 78,000,000 Boomers, ~57,000 Viet Nam US soldier deaths. Hardly an entire generation, not even close.

There were almost 3 million American men who served in Vietnam. Death is hardly the only way to be "$#@!ED". This very article proves the mind-$#@! from the war for those who didn't die in combat. Not to mention the crackdowns at home, the heartache for families who learned that their sons had been killed in action, and the loss of liberty here at home which continues for generations afterwards.

http://www.nationalvietnamveteransfo...statistics.htm

Between 1995 and 2000, there were apparently 390 vets dying per day.

That is a $#@!ED generation.

[Ronin Truth]

There were almost 3 million American men who served in Vietnam. Death is hardly the only way to be "$#@!ED". This very article proves the mind-$#@! from the war for those who didn't die in combat. Not to mention the crackdowns at home, the heartache for families who learned that their sons had been killed in action, and the loss of liberty here at home which continues for generations afterwards.

http://www.nationalvietnamveteransfo...statistics.htm

Between 1995 and 2000, there were apparently 390 vets dying per day.

That is a $#@!ED generation.

About as many in Viet Nam as in Korea. Fractional compared to WWII and the even much worse Civil War, as generational tragedies go.

[goRPaul]

“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.” ~ Henry Kissinger

Not caring about the pawns is a sign of a poor chess player.

[Aratus]

McCain & Graham push for a draft as BHO continues
the practice under the "W" of reusing + recycling all
unfortunate volunteers. ask me about a tragedy, now.

[phill4paul]

“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.” ~ Henry Kissinger

If I ever had a chance to get within arms reach of this particular war criminal I would do what needs to be done for "justice" sake. And feel fine with the corresponding results of my action.

Dear Lord (if you are there), this I pray. Give me 5 minutes alone in a men's room with this man and I will help make the cosmos right.

[Spikender]

About as many in Viet Nam as in Korea. Fractional compared to WWII and the even much worse Civil War, as generational tragedies go.

I don't really see the point in comparing the degrees of "badness" a generation tragedy is when they all should've never happened.

But fair enough point.

[Ronin Truth]

I don't really see the point in comparing the degrees of "badness" a generation tragedy is when they all should've never happened.

But fair enough point.

The point was the original thread title and post. I don't know about the subsequent suicide rates of the veterans of the other US wars.

[Spikender]

The point was the original thread title and post. I don't know about the subsequent suicide rates of the veterans of the other US wars.

And my point was that they got $#@!ed both physically and mentally but you had to get semantic on me.

[Ronin Truth]

And my point was that they got $#@!ed both physically and mentally but you had to get semantic on me.

It's a dirty job, but someone needs to do it. Otherwise how will anyone understand what the hell you are talking about?

"Say what you mean and mean what you say." "$#@!ed generation" just does not compute. Sorry.

[Spikender]

It's a dirty job, but someone needs to do it. Otherwise how will anyone understand what the hell you are talking about?

"Say what you mean and mean what you say." "$#@!ed generation" just does not compute. Sorry.

Everyone understands what I'm talking about except the happily semantic literalist known as Ronin Truth.

Though I guess I should be clearer and just say that I consider every generation as a "$#@!ED" generation in their own special ways.

I don't understand what you mean by "does not compute". Are you a computer now? I'm sorry, but you're a living being and you should say "that doesn't make sense to me", man.

*Grins*

[Ronin Truth]

Everyone understands what I'm talking about except the happily semantic literalist known as Ronin Truth.

Though I guess I should be clearer and just say that I consider every generation as a "$#@!ED" generation in their own special ways.

I don't understand what you mean by "does not compute". Are you a computer now? I'm sorry, but you're a living being and you should say "that doesn't make sense to me", man.

*Grins*

Retired computer programmer, old habits die hard. Not speaking and writing literally, causes very strange behavior in the programs.

It seems you managed to catch the gist of my meaning. Mission accomplished.

[Spikender]

Retired computer programmer, old habits die hard. Not speaking and writing literally, causes very strange behavior in the programs.

It seems you managed to catch the gist of my meaning. Mission accomplished.

Retired? Well I'm not a programmer by job title, but I do know a bit of Python... kind of necessary for my job, even if I'm not technically a programmer.

I kind of knew what you were getting at but I like to stand by what I say like a stubborn mule, even if it is "$#@!ED".

[Ronin Truth]

Retired? Well I'm not a programmer by job title, but I do know a bit of Python... kind of necessary for my job, even if I'm not technically a programmer.

I kind of knew what you were getting at but I like to stand by what I say like a stubborn mule, even if it is "$#@!ED".

Python rocks!

[Spikender]

Python rocks!

I know right? I once used C++ but then two years ago I got into Python and have never looked back.

Great for writing scripts for my job, got a vault of stuff I've been helping others build onto, though I'm a bit rusty recently because I haven't been using it.