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    Soda May Age You as Much as Smoking, Study Says

    Even though I know soda is poison, I was surprised at how little is took (8oz) to have an adverse effect on your body.

    The link between soda and telomere length


    Nobody would mistake sugary soda for a health food, but a new study published in the American Journal of Public Health just found that a daily soda habit can age your immune cells almost two years.

    Senior study author Elissa Epel, PhD, professor of psychiatry at University of California San Francisco, wanted to look at the mechanisms behind soda’s storied link to conditions like diabetes, heart attack, obesity, and even higher rates of death. She studied telomeres, the caps at the end of chromosomes in every cell in our body, from white blood cells. Shorter telomeres have been linked to health detriments like shorter lifespans and more stress, cardiovascular disease, diabetes and cancer, the study notes.

    Epel and her team analyzed data from 5,309 adults in the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) from about 14 years ago. They found that people who drank more sugary soda tended to have shorter telomeres. Drinking an 8-ounce daily serving of soda corresponded to 1.9 years of additional aging, and drinking a daily 20-ounce serving was linked to 4.6 more years of aging. The latter, the authors point out, is exactly the same association found between telomere length and smoking.

    Only the sugary, bubbly stuff showed this effect. Epel didn’t see any association between telomere length and diet soda intake. “The extremely high dose of sugar that we can put into our body within seconds by drinking sugared beverages is uniquely toxic to metabolism,” she says.

    She also didn’t see a significant link between non-carbonated sugary beverages, like fruit juice, which Epel says surprised her. But she thinks the results might be different if the data were more modern. “We think that the jury’s still out on sugared beverages—theoretically they’re just as bad,” she says. “But 14 years ago people were drinking a lot less sugared beverages…they were mostly drinking soda.” At the time of the study, 21% of adults in the study reported consuming 20 ounces or more of sugar-sweetened soda each day, but soda consumption has been on the decline for years.

    Telomere length dwindles naturally as we age, but it may not be an irreversible process. Previous research shows that it’s possible to increase telomere length by as much as 10% over 5 years by stressing less and eating a healthy diet—no soda included.

    http://time.com/3513875/soda-may-age...ch-as-smoking/



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    A Skull and Crossbones coming to a soda near you soon.

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    Cool, they have bacon flavored soda, Tobacco flavored next?
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Cool, they have bacon flavored soda, Tobacco flavored next?
    That is temptation right there. I always knew the Devil worked at Coca Cola.
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    3 Litres of Coca-Cola

    1200 Calories




    16 oz Karo Light Corn Syrup

    1200 Calories
    Last edited by presence; 10-21-2014 at 08:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    Contains the equivelent of a 16 oz of High Fructose Corn Syrup

    1200 Calories
    That reminds me, its almost pecan pie season.... yum.

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    Soda neutralizes stomach acid and reduces the efficiency of absorption of nutrients.

    Aging is caused by nutritional deficiencies.
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    Drinking an 8-ounce daily serving of soda corresponded to 1.9 years of additional aging, and drinking a daily 20-ounce serving was linked to 4.6 more years of aging. The latter, the authors point out, is exactly the same association found between telomere length and smoking.
    Hugh Hefner is famous for smoking a pipe and drinking Pepsi,lots of it,every day of his life.He is 88 years old.
    Many men would love to have lived his lifestyle of smoking and drinking,alcohol and sody pops and 20 year old blond twins,even if he keels over tomorrow,rather than live their present existence until they are 92.6 years old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mad cow View Post
    Hugh Hefner is famous for smoking a pipe and drinking Pepsi,lots of it,every day of his life.He is 88 years old.
    Many men would love to have lived his lifestyle of smoking and drinking,alcohol and sody pops and 20 year old blond twins,even if he keels over tomorrow,rather than live their present existence until they are 92.6 years old.
    He is also almost completely deaf which could be a result of him regularly using Viagra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad cow View Post
    Hugh Hefner is famous for smoking a pipe and drinking Pepsi,lots of it,every day of his life.He is 88 years old.
    Many men would love to have lived his lifestyle of smoking and drinking,alcohol and sody pops and 20 year old blond twins,even if he keels over tomorrow,rather than live their present existence until they are 92.6 years old.
    suffered a stroke in 1985 (Hef quit smoking after that)
    He eats mostly:

    fried chicken, pot roast, lamb chops and mashed potatoes.
    and

    portion control and a rigid eating schedule have enabled him to enjoy a long and healthy life.
    he has

    12 full-time chefs at his disposal 24 hours a day
    http://www.examiner.com/article/play...t-food-cookies



    As is his habit, Hefner chain-drinks decaffeinated diet Pepsi from the can
    http://www.jessicaseigel.com/articles/hefner.shtml
    Last edited by presence; 10-21-2014 at 08:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    He is also almost completely deaf which could be a result of him regularly using Viagra.
    eh, speak up sonny, can't hear ya

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    He is also almost completely deaf which could be a result of him regularly using Viagra.

    Also makes you go blind.
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    Technically, aging is caused by time.

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    I would like to know if the study was about HFCS-sweetened sodas. Carbonated drinks (like bread drinks, root beer, sasparilla, etc) have been around for centuries and didn't cause obesity like HFCS typically does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    I would like to know if the study was about HFCS-sweetened sodas. Carbonated drinks (like bread drinks, root beer, sasparilla, etc) have been around for centuries and didn't cause obesity like HFCS typically does.
    With traditional fermented drinks the sugar content was a small fraction of what it is in modern soda because the yeast ate most of it. That's where the dissolved carbon dioxide comes from in naturally fermented drinks. Modern soda is force-carbonated.

    Not defending fructose, but even pure cane sugar is half fructose in your bloodstream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    With traditional fermented drinks the sugar content was a small fraction of what it is in modern soda because the yeast ate most of it. That's where the dissolved carbon dioxide comes from in naturally fermented drinks. Modern soda is force-carbonated.

    Not defending fructose, but even pure cane sugar is half fructose in your bloodstream.
    Ah, yes. Good point. I've seen a "Soda Stream" machine in action, and you've reminded me of the way CO2 is pumped into the solution. Very different from kvass recipes and such I've tried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Soda neutralizes stomach acid and reduces the efficiency of absorption of nutrients.
    But only non-diet soda?

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    I would like to know if the study was about HFCS-sweetened sodas. Carbonated drinks (like bread drinks, root beer, sasparilla, etc) have been around for centuries and didn't cause obesity like HFCS typically does.
    I don't think it's the HFCS that is causing the obesity. That's too narrow a scope. I think it's the additional 500-calories per day that people consume now as compared to several generations ago, combined with the sedentary lifestyle. Certainly, HFCS has plenty of pointless calories, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNothing View Post
    But only non-diet soda?
    All carbonated drinks. High consumption of carbonated drinks also cause leaching of minerals from the bones.
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    Unproven, sensationalistic, likely false, thread title.

    They proved a correlation between soda intake and telomere length. That telomere length determines aging is a controversial theory (if mainstream medicine still stupidly demonizes saturated fat, you can't count on them to get anything right). My interpretation of this study is that it suggests that the telomere aging theory is likely wrong.

    An accurate title would've been: Soda Intake Correlated With Shorter Telomeres.

    If the controversial telomere theory of aging is correct, then soda might shorten lifespan.

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    I think Coca Cola is healthier than bread.

    The claim about Coca Cola leaching minerals is correct, if one takes it alone, without other foods which contain minerals. But the same is probably true for bread, as it's the acidity what forces calcium from the bones. And also true for any other acidic food, such as meat, without taking something with alkaline minerals (such as mashed potatoes) with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Soda neutralizes stomach acid and reduces the efficiency of absorption of nutrients.

    Aging is caused by nutritional deficiencies.
    It's not just what we don't have in our bodies that hurt us, also what we have that shouldn't, such as excessive polyunsaturated fats from vegetable oils. Polyunsaturated fats are more responsible for aging, obesity, and disease than anything else people have mentioned here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    All carbonated drinks. High consumption of carbonated drinks also cause leaching of minerals from the bones.
    Source?
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