Mental Health Issues Put 34,500 on New York’s No-Guns List

[Anti Federalist]

I know this is, on the surface, a "gun issue", this is just the start, there will be more, and more intrusive, databases of "No - Blank" lists as we go forward.

All secret and all unable to be questioned.




Mental Health Issues Put 34,500 on New York’s No-Guns List

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/19/ny...pgtype=article

A newly created database of New Yorkers deemed too mentally unstable to carry firearms has grown to roughly 34,500 names, a previously undisclosed figure that has raised concerns among some mental health advocates that too many people have been categorized as dangerous.

The database, established in the aftermath of the mass shooting in 2012 at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., and maintained by the state Division of Criminal Justice Services, is the result of the Safe Act. It is an expansive package of gun control measures pushed through by the administration of Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo. The law, better known for its ban on assault weapons, compels licensed mental health professionals in New York to report to the authorities any patient “likely to engage in conduct that would result in serious harm to self or others.”

But the number of entries in the database highlights the difficulty of America’s complicated balancing act between public safety and the right to bear arms when it comes to people with mental health issues. “That seems extraordinarily high to me,” said Sam Tsemberis, a former director of New York City’s involuntary hospitalization program for homeless and dangerous people, now the chief executive of Pathways to Housing, which provides housing to the mentally ill. “Assumed dangerousness is a far cry from actual dangerousness.”

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[phill4paul]

the difficulty of America’s complicated balancing act between public safety and the right to bear arms

If Americans chose to exercise, or dependent on location were granted the privilege of exercising, their right to bear arms then there wouldn't need to be a "complicated balancing act."

[aGameOfThrones]

The NYPD's current uniformed strength is approximately 34,500.

[Occam's Banana]

That 34,500 number seems way too low to me. The list should include anyone who wants to carry firearms.
I mean, obviously, anyone who actually wants to carry firearms must therefore have mental health issues.

Amirite?

[mosquitobite]

Join the military - they teach you to kill people - come home with PTSD - get pills - BAM! on the mental health issues list - NO GUNS FOR YOU SUCKA!

[newbitech]

I know this is, on the surface, a "gun issue", this is just the start, there will be more, and more intrusive, databases of "No - Blank" lists as we go forward.

All secret and all unable to be questioned.




Mental Health Issues Put 34,500 on New York’s No-Guns List

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/19/ny...pgtype=article

A newly created database of New Yorkers deemed too mentally unstable to carry firearms has grown to roughly 34,500 names, a previously undisclosed figure that has raised concerns among some mental health advocates that too many people have been categorized as dangerous.

The database, established in the aftermath of the mass shooting in 2012 at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., and maintained by the state Division of Criminal Justice Services, is the result of the Safe Act. It is an expansive package of gun control measures pushed through by the administration of Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo. The law, better known for its ban on assault weapons, compels licensed mental health professionals in New York to report to the authorities any patient “likely to engage in conduct that would result in serious harm to self or others.”

But the number of entries in the database highlights the difficulty of America’s complicated balancing act between public safety and the right to bear arms when it comes to people with mental health issues. “That seems extraordinarily high to me,” said Sam Tsemberis, a former director of New York City’s involuntary hospitalization program for homeless and dangerous people, now the chief executive of Pathways to Housing, which provides housing to the mentally ill. “Assumed dangerousness is a far cry from actual dangerousness.”

More at link...

In other news, "scientist" can now predict mental health "disorders" based on birth season.

"no winter babies"

http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/birt...ditions-111913