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    Write in Mr Giggles like I do.
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    I'll happily write in Ron Paul again.
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    I would write in Ron Paul again if it came to that.
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    If Romie is on the ticket, I don't think it matters who we vote for.
    ??? Voting doesn't matter!?!????

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    Me, I will write in RP
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    That was one of the stupidest discussion that I have ever heard. If it wasn't on TV, the public would just assume they were a couple of mentally ill homeless people.

    Flopney won't run again. Not gonna happen. If he did run, he would not get the nomination. Republican voters are tired of losing and the people at Fox have almost nothing in common with Republican voters.
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    I mean, the fact that Romney keeps popping up is at least planting the idea in people's heads since folks, for some reason, see him as the de-facto leader of the GOP, maybe because of his money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.NoSmile View Post
    I mean, the fact that Romney keeps popping up is at least planting the idea in people's heads since folks, for some reason, see him as the de-facto leader of the GOP, maybe because of his money.
    It's a distraction, so that santorum can come in through the back door and surge from behind.
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    Mitt Romney is ‘done, done, done’ running for president, wife Ann insists
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...esident-wife-/

    Media:
    So you're saying there's a chance!
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    Quote Originally Posted by invisible View Post
    It's a distraction, so that santorum can come in through the back door and surge from behind.
    Thanks for planting the imagery of Frothy "surging from behind" in my head.

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    If you morons run Romney again don't act completely shellshocked when you lose again like last time.
    ...but when the trumpets blew again and the knights charged, the name they cried was "Stannis! Stannis! STANNIS!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.NoSmile View Post
    I mean, the fact that Romney keeps popping up is at least planting the idea in people's heads since folks, for some reason, see him as the de-facto leader of the GOP, maybe because of his money.
    It is because of the political climate right now. He was planted in their heads for about 6 years, including a general election campaign 2 years ago. He's the most recent GOP candidate they know. As people start launching campaigns for 2016, they'll stop talking about him. Polling suggest the same.

    It would be the same way with Hillary if she was nominated and lost in 2016. They would still be polling her in 2018 while she trot around on a walker.
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    he might be right, and Rand should have 3rd party as plan B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cindy25 View Post
    he might be right, and Rand should have 3rd party as plan B.
    I've always suggested this plan B, executed either by Rand or by his father, to short circuit the "Bush/Romney/Christie is electable" meme the MSM and GOP leadership will hit us with like a freight train, as usual during primary season. Rand or Ron running third party would shake the rank and file out of believing the establishment frontrunner was electable, because they'd realize the conservative vote would be split in the election. Realizing this, they would vote for Paul in the Republican primaries and make him the GOP nominee to head off Hillary from winning. I don't believe anything short of this plan will be enough to derail the MSM's "electable" freight train once it's in full motion next year.
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    So out of touch. Why do American's love these news anchors so much?

    When the guy selling you News is making 6 - 7 figure salaries. You might want to pause and reflect if that person has the same vested interest as the average American.

    See O'Reilly, Hannity, Maddow, Chris Matthews etc...
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    On bringing the troops home
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    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
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    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    @ HB -

    I'll happily write in Ron Paul again.
    sounds like a plan. I can already hear my rino friends blaming me for another dem as prez...

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    Viable solutions are impossible from within the system, because the system is the problem.
    "One thing my years in Washington taught me is that most politicians are followers, not leaders. Therefore we should not waste time and resources trying to educate politicians. Politicians will not support individual liberty and limited government unless and until they are forced to do so by the people," says Ron Paul."

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    Quote Originally Posted by navy-vet View Post
    really...I wonder too
    Perhaps they are one and the same after-all...
    we're screwed
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/20...9sL/story.html

    Vote all you want. The secret government won’t change.
    The people we elect aren’t the ones calling the shots, says Tufts University’s Michael Glennon

    The voters who put Barack Obama in office expected some big changes. From the NSA’s warrantless wiretapping to Guantanamo Bay to the Patriot Act, candidate Obama was a defender of civil liberties and privacy, promising a dramatically different approach from his predecessor.

    But six years into his administration, the Obama version of national security looks almost indistinguishable from the one he inherited. Guantanamo Bay remains open. The NSA has, if anything, become more aggressive in monitoring Americans. Drone strikes have escalated. Most recently it was reported that the same president who won a Nobel Prize in part for promoting nuclear disarmament is spending up to $1 trillion modernizing and revitalizing America’s nuclear weapons.

    Why did the face in the Oval Office change but the policies remain the same? Critics tend to focus on Obama himself, a leader who perhaps has shifted with politics to take a harder line. But Tufts University political scientist Michael J. Glennon has a more pessimistic answer: Obama couldn’t have changed policies much even if he tried.

    Though it’s a bedrock American principle that citizens can steer their own government by electing new officials, Glennon suggests that in practice, much of our government no longer works that way. In a new book, “National Security and Double Government,” he catalogs the ways that the defense and national security apparatus is effectively self-governing, with virtually no accountability, transparency, or checks and balances of any kind. He uses the term “double government”: There’s the one we elect, and then there’s the one behind it, steering huge swaths of policy almost unchecked. Elected officials end up serving as mere cover for the real decisions made by the bureaucracy.

    Glennon cites the example of Obama and his team being shocked and angry to discover upon taking office that the military gave them only two options for the war in Afghanistan: The United States could add more troops, or the United States could add a lot more troops. Hemmed in, Obama added 30,000 more troops.

    Glennon’s critique sounds like an outsider’s take, even a radical one. In fact, he is the quintessential insider: He was legal counsel to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and a consultant to various congressional committees, as well as to the State Department. “National Security and Double Government” comes favorably blurbed by former members of the Defense Department, State Department, White House, and even the CIA. And he’s not a conspiracy theorist: Rather, he sees the problem as one of “smart, hard-working, public-spirited people acting in good faith who are responding to systemic incentives”—without any meaningful oversight to rein them in.

    How exactly has double government taken hold? And what can be done about it? Glennon spoke with Ideas from his office at Tufts’ Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy. This interview has been condensed and edited.

    IDEAS: Where does the term “double government” come from?

    GLENNON: It comes from Walter Bagehot’s famous theory, unveiled in the 1860s. Bagehot was the scholar who presided over the birth of the Economist magazine—they still have a column named after him. Bagehot tried to explain in his book “The English Constitution” how the British government worked. He suggested that there are two sets of institutions. There are the “dignified institutions,” the monarchy and the House of Lords, which people erroneously believed ran the government. But he suggested that there was in reality a second set of institutions, which he referred to as the “efficient institutions,” that actually set governmental policy. And those were the House of Commons, the prime minister, and the British cabinet.

    IDEAS: What evidence exists for saying America has a double government?

    GLENNON:I was curious why a president such as Barack Obama would embrace the very same national security and counterterrorism policies that he campaigned eloquently against. Why would that president continue those same policies in case after case after case? I initially wrote it based on my own experience and personal knowledge and conversations with dozens of individuals in the military, law enforcement, and intelligence agencies of our government, as well as, of course, officeholders on Capitol Hill and in the courts. And the documented evidence in the book is substantial—there are 800 footnotes in the book.

    IDEAS: Why would policy makers hand over the national-security keys to unelected officials?

    GLENNON: It hasn’t been a conscious decision....Members of Congress are generalists and need to defer to experts within the national security realm, as elsewhere. They are particularly concerned about being caught out on a limb having made a wrong judgment about national security and tend, therefore, to defer to experts, who tend to exaggerate threats. The courts similarly tend to defer to the expertise of the network that defines national security policy.

    The presidency itself is not a top-down institution, as many people in the public believe, headed by a president who gives orders and causes the bureaucracy to click its heels and salute. National security policy actually bubbles up from within the bureaucracy. Many of the more controversial policies, from the mining of Nicaragua’s harbors to the NSA surveillance program, originated within the bureaucracy. John Kerry was not exaggerating when he said that some of those programs are “on autopilot.”

    IDEAS: Isn’t this just another way of saying that big bureaucracies are difficult to change?

    GLENNON: It’s much more serious than that. These particular bureaucracies don’t set truck widths or determine railroad freight rates. They make nerve-center security decisions that in a democracy can be irreversible, that can close down the marketplace of ideas, and can result in some very dire consequences.

    IDEAS: Couldn’t Obama’s national-security decisions just result from the difference in vantage point between being a campaigner and being the commander-in-chief, responsible for 320 million lives?

    GLENNON: There is an element of what you described. There is not only one explanation or one cause for the amazing continuity of American national security policy. But obviously there is something else going on when policy after policy after policy all continue virtually the same way that they were in the George W. Bush administration.

    IDEAS: This isn’t how we’re taught to think of the American political system.

    GLENNON: I think the American people are deluded, as Bagehot explained about the British population, that the institutions that provide the public face actually set American national security policy. They believe that when they vote for a president or member of Congress or succeed in bringing a case before the courts, that policy is going to change. Now, there are many counter-examples in which these branches do affect policy, as Bagehot predicted there would be. But the larger picture is still true—policy by and large in the national security realm is made by the concealed institutions.

    IDEAS: Do we have any hope of fixing the problem?

    GLENNON: The ultimate problem is the pervasive political ignorance on the part of the American people. And indifference to the threat that is emerging from these concealed institutions. That is where the energy for reform has to come from: the American people. Not from government. Government is very much the problem here. The people have to take the bull by the horns. And that’s a very difficult thing to do, because the ignorance is in many ways rational. There is very little profit to be had in learning about, and being active about, problems that you can’t affect, policies that you can’t change.
    I have seen through it all... the system is against us. ALL OF IT.

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    RMoney wont run again. Jeb Bush is the new Chosen One. And since I won't be voting for Gary Johnson, count me in for another Ron Paul write-in.

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    Party of One SimCity = the illusion of choice in America

    The GrandOligarchParty better get it through their heads, no candidate they stick on pedestal will win, unless they include, Libertarians, Constitutionalists, and Independents

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    He should. Third times a charm right? What else is the guy doing? Rick Santorum is making movies. Herman Cain is on the radio. Newt Gingrich went to CNN? Ron Paul is doing the Ron Paul Channel and Voices of Liberty thing. Michele Bachmann is retiring, moving to whatever she's doing next.
    And, he would have Rand's endorsement if/when he wins the nomination.
    Guess Newt's back to collecting paychecks at D.C. Lobbyist firms and of course the CFR RICO organization... under the cloak of "Historian"

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    Quote Originally Posted by COpatriot View Post
    If you morons run Romney again don't act completely shellshocked when you lose again like last time.
    Yep, and you gun owners better start selling off your guns now while you can still get something for them. Between obama and Hildebeast, there's little doubt that the SCOTUS will continue to be 5-4.

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    That's IF there is a SCOTUS in the NWO that's sure to follow.



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    If we were legitimately truthful with ourselves, Romney could take Hilary. Romney would also slightly be better than Hilary too. With that being said, the state would self-destruct. Why do you ancaps not want this ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard101 View Post
    If we were legitimately truthful with ourselves, Romney could take Hilary. Romney would also slightly be better than Hilary too. With that being said, the state would self-destruct. Why do you ancaps not want this ?
    Speak for yourself. I have no confidence at all that Mitt or other establishment Republicans can beat Hillary, given the objective evidence of the GOP national performance in '12. Mitt didn't win OH, FL and VA, and alienated conservatives (fewer Republicans voted for Romney than they did for McCain in '08). Where is the electoral evidence that the situation has changed in those states, that establishment GOP candidates lost in both '08 and '12?

    In terms of him being better than Hillary, by our standards, would we be invading and performing more covert ops with a democratic interventionist, or a Republican interventionist? How would the architect of Romneycare turn back Obamacare? How would a Romney Supreme Court be better for constitutionalists than a Hillary court, given 75% of his judicial appointments in MA were social liberals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peace&Freedom View Post
    I've always suggested this plan B, executed either by Rand or by his father, to short circuit the "Bush/Romney/Christie is electable" meme the MSM and GOP leadership will hit us with like a freight train, as usual during primary season. Rand or Ron running third party would shake the rank and file out of believing the establishment frontrunner was electable, because they'd realize the conservative vote would be split in the election. Realizing this, they would vote for Paul in the Republican primaries and make him the GOP nominee to head off Hillary from winning. I don't believe anything short of this plan will be enough to derail the MSM's "electable" freight train once it's in full motion next year.
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    As if I needed more proof that Coulter is nothing more than a political troll who is D-riding Romney hardcore.
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    IDEAS: Do we have any hope of fixing the problem?

    GLENNON: The ultimate problem is the pervasive political ignorance on the part of the American people. And indifference to the threat that is emerging from these concealed institutions. That is where the energy for reform has to come from: the American people. Not from government. Government is very much the problem here. The people have to take the bull by the horns. And that’s a very difficult thing to do, because the ignorance is in many ways rational. There is very little profit to be had in learning about, and being active about, problems that you can’t affect, policies that you can’t change.
    This man is just a Debby Downer.

    Clearly, the answer is just to vote harder.

    Seriously, though, great article, thanks for posting.

    We were warned, Eisenhower TOLD us about it, and we ignored the warnings and are now reaping the whirlwind.

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    Whew. Thank goodness I don't care what Bill O'Reilly or Ann Coulter has to say.
    "Your mother's dead, before long I'll be dead, and you...and your brother and your sister and all of her children, all of us dead, all of us..rotting in the ground. It's the family name that lives on. It's all that lives on. Not your personal glory, not your honor, but family." - Tywin Lannister


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    Even Limbaugh said he has proven he can't win. What are these dumbos thinking?

  30. #56
    Romney will be around enough to muddy the waters and assure himself a place in a GOP administration.

    Jeb Bush will be the nominee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by invisible View Post
    It's a distraction, so that santorum can come in through the back door and surge from behind.
    A Santorum surge from behind? Isn't that what you get when you Google Santorum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Mitt Romney is ‘done, done, done’ running for president, wife Ann insists
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...esident-wife-/

    Media:
    So you're saying there's a chance!
    I'm sure that you had this in mind:

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Romney will be around enough to muddy the waters and assure himself a place in a GOP administration.

    Jeb Bush will be the nominee.
    I agree.

    God damn it.

    Another four to five million principled individuals will write in Rand, Ron, or Ricky Martin - and President Clinton will ascend to her rightful place in the center ring of the Washington DC three-ring circus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorfolkPCSolutions View Post
    - and President Clinton will ascend to her rightful place in the center ring of the Washington DC three-ring circus.
    Clinton or Bush

    What Difference At This Point Does It Make ...?
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