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    Ron Paul lets cat out of the bag on Rand Presidential Run: ‘I Think It's Great He's Doing It’

    In an interview with PoliticKING With Larry King on Thursday, the elder Paul spoke in the present tense about his son's presidential ambitions (emphasis added):

    KING: Do you encourage your son to run for President?

    PAUL: Not really, and I have mixed feelings about it because I know what is entailed and how much punishment he gets - it always annoys me he has to suffer some of the consequences because of something I said or did. But he shouldn't have to do that but that's the way system works. So yes I think it's great he's doing it. He has a good message and he understand free-market economics and I just think that its doing a world of good. But I also know the power and strength of the establishment and its a tough road to hoe I'll tell you that but I would never have discouraged him from doing it. Just like I didn't say "Rand I really want to see you go to med school and be a doctor" but I never discourage and was delighted when he did go to med school and become an opthamologist.

    It's nitpicking, sure, but it's also telling—even Paul's father sees his son running as a foregone conclusion.
    Read more, with video:

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/polit...l-run-20141017
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    Rand isn't even brushing it off anymore.

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    [...] its a tough road to hoe [...]
    Idiom transcription fail.

    Do people who do this ever stop to wonder, "Hoeing a road? That sounds kinda strange. Did he actually say that? Am I getting it right?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Idiom transcription fail.

    Do people who do this ever stop to wonder, "Hoeing a road? That sounds kinda strange. Did he actually say that? Am I getting it right?"
    I always thought it was "a tough row to hoe."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    I always thought it was "a tough row to hoe."
    It is. Hence why the transcription failed. What did you think Occam was saying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    I always thought it was "a tough row to hoe."
    Indeed it is. And if you listen to the video, that's what Ron actually said.

    Apparently, the transcriber stretched the "t" sound at the start of "to" to a "d" sound at the end of "row."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkblots View Post
    It is. Hence why the transcription failed. What did you think Occam was saying?
    I thought I was hearing things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TaftFan View Post
    Rand isn't even brushing it off anymore.
    Of course not, he has national attention now and even mundanes on the street know his name.

    He's done a good job getting his name out there and tightening up his stances and I'm glad his dad approves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikender View Post
    Of course not, he has national attention now and even mundanes on the street know his name.

    He's done a good job getting his name out there and tightening up his stances and I'm glad his dad approves.
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    H. L. Mencken said it best:


    “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”


    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

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    "Not really, and I have mixed feelings about it because I know what is entailed and how much punishment he gets - it always annoys me he has to suffer some of the consequences because of something I said or did. But he shouldn't have to do that but that's the way system works. "

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    Sometime over the summer it seems like, at least internally with his family, that they decided to go for it. Politically, Rand can't make any official moves until at least after the elections, and (preferably) after any new winners begin their first term in office. It would be even more ideal to wait and see what Hillary is going to do, because if she goes for it, she will be in the process of creating her narrative now. Someone like Joe Biden or John Kerry, their narrative would be "stay the course", but if either one of them run, Hillary would have a different narrative, for contrast. Something about the current policies she strongly disagrees with, and this is why she didn't serve a second term in the current Administration. Once the story with the Democrats is clearer, Rand can more effectively tailor his narrative for a campaign launch. But no one on the Republican side should want to be the first, unless their platform is "because Obama", which is a proven losing strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Sometime over the summer it seems like, at least internally with his family, that they decided to go for it. Politically, Rand can't make any official moves until at least after the elections, and (preferably) after any new winners begin their first term in office. It would be even more ideal to wait and see what Hillary is going to do, because if she goes for it, she will be in the process of creating her narrative now. Someone like Joe Biden or John Kerry, their narrative would be "stay the course", but if either one of them run, Hillary would have a different narrative, for contrast. Something about the current policies she strongly disagrees with, and this is why she didn't serve a second term in the current Administration. Once the story with the Democrats is clearer, Rand can more effectively tailor his narrative for a campaign launch. But no one on the Republican side should want to be the first, unless their platform is "because Obama", which is a proven losing strategy.
    I agree but not sure how strongly ...

    Since everyone assumes Hillary will be the dem nominee that they will be quick to assume the first front runner of the GOP to be the nominee. Kind of a Romney situation - where it was almost a given before the race even started that he would be the pick.

    If Rand announced early and then, in Romney fashion, went straight to general election rhetoric and kept his aim on Hillary (or whoever) it might help create a narrative of "Rand Paul is going to win".
    That's really the only reason Romney won. I never talked to a die hard Romney fan during the primary except one or two - but several people that supported anyway because "he is going to win".

    Of course ... he could also wait a prolonged time to announce while the "amateurs" debated as he waits in the wings as the media to keeps wondering when he will announce. Undermining the competition and, again, creating a narrative that the primary is already won.

    ... or, most likely, neither scenario will happen. But it is definitely better to be seen as the presumptive nominee rather than the underdog.

    Whenever he announces will be a calculated move and the decision will be made by folks wiser (and better paid) than I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Idiom transcription fail.

    Do people who do this ever stop to wonder, "Hoeing a road? That sounds kinda strange. Did he actually say that? Am I getting it right?"
    I think it's funny that Occam's BANANA is pointing out an idiom transcription fail. Your username is an idiom transcription fail - albeit an intentional one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Original_Intent View Post
    I think it's funny that Occam's BANANA is pointing out an idiom transcription fail. Your username is an idiom transcription fail - albeit an intentional one.


    +rep to you, sir!

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    Primary season sure is approaching fast. It always starts heating up quickly after the midterms.

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    I'm looking forward to seeing Ron draw larger crowds than Rand. lol



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    It's a tough toad to row.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctiger2 View Post
    I'm looking forward to seeing Ron draw larger crowds than Rand. lol
    Yeah, hang your hat on that. I'm looking forward to seeing Randal draw many more votes than his father and I'm sure his father is as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    I thought I was hearing things.
    Beats being deaf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Idiom transcription fail.

    Do people who do this ever stop to wonder, "Hoeing a road? That sounds kinda strange. Did he actually say that? Am I getting it right?"
    Methinks the transcriber thought Ron was speaking along the lines of inner city prostitution. As opposed to rural farm work. Hoe, road/row... ya' know?

    Politics is whoreable sometimes.
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    Ron could have been addressing it from more of a popular media perspective. i.e. simply the assumption that Rand probably intends to run. After all, Rand has said repeatedly that the two of them don't discuss it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Idiom transcription fail.

    Do people who do this ever stop to wonder, "Hoeing a road? That sounds kinda strange. Did he actually say that? Am I getting it right?"



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    Quote Originally Posted by RonZeplin View Post
    It's a tough toad to row.
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    H. L. Mencken said it best:


    “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”


    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

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    I wonder when and where it will happen when he officially announces....
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    Quote Originally Posted by philipped View Post
    I wonder when and where it will happen when he officially announces....
    Probably on Hannity's show. If not, Hannity will be the first one to interview him.

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    Getting into a Presidential race is hard to do...

    You don't want to be first because then you bear the brunt of the scrutiny. You don't want to be last because then you look like Johnny-come-lately and won't have as much time to build funds and an organization. You also dont want to launch at the same time as someone else because then your limelight and organic PR gets cut in half or maybe even overshadowed all together.

    And then there is the FEC nonsense which makes it very difficult in what one can and can't say prior to actually having a campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    I always thought it was "a tough row to hoe."
    It is if you farm. Or have ever hoed a row.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    It is if you farm. Or have ever hoed a row.
    I've rode a tough ho!




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