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    Kentucky Senate: McConnell (R) 52%, Grimes (D) 44%

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...entucky_senate

    Quote Originally Posted by Rasmussen Reports
    Seventy-six percent (76%) of Kentucky voters say they have already made up their minds how they are going to vote, and McConnell leads 55% to 45% among these voters. Among the 24% who still could change their minds, the candidates are tied at 41% apiece, with 17% opting for a third-party candidate or undecided.

    Among the 84% of Kentucky voters who say they will definitely vote in this contest, McConnell leads 53% to 44%.

    Grimes has the support of 73% of Kentucky Democrats and 16% of the state’s Republicans. McConnell earns 83% backing from his fellow Republicans and 24% of the vote from Democrats. He also has a 21-point lead among voters not affiliated with either of the major parties.
    Not surprising; the DSCC recently retreated from this race.

    Adios, Grimes.



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    It was never a real contest. Maybe they were trying to get her some name recognition in case Rand leaves the Senate.

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    Audit the fed will go through?

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    Grimes is just a joke. She wouldn't even say that she voted for President Obama when asked two or three different times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard101 View Post
    Audit the fed will go through?
    Reid won't be able to block it by himself if he is no longer the Senate's majority leader.

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    Grimes never had a real chance

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    I don't trust Rasmusseun polling
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    McConnell can do more damage turning Republican senate votes against Rand than one Democrat ever could, and poisoning all the legislation even when he becomes president. Remember how the House leadership kept trying to destroy Audit the Fed with amendments?

    Grimes is just one vote against us, who will convince absolutely no one else to join her.
    Original supporter of Ron Paul since 2007 and lifelong supporter of liberty and the Constitution. I stand with Rand.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    I don't trust Rasmusseun polling
    They predicted Rand Paul's 2010 win exactly right: Their final Kentucky poll showed Paul ahead by twelve points over Conway, and that was the margin by which Paul won. According to Nate Silver, it was the only state Rasmussen polled well that year.

    Rasmussen also nailed McConnell's victory in 2008.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTyke View Post
    McConnell can do more damage turning Republican senate votes against Rand than one Democrat ever could, and poisoning all the legislation even when he becomes president. Remember how the House leadership kept trying to destroy Audit the Fed with amendments?

    Grimes is just one vote against us, who will convince absolutely no one else to join her.
    This implies someone decent would replace McConnell as the GOP's Senate leader, when in reality it'd just be John Cornyn, and you'd see no real improvement.

    Grimes is worse. She is young, and can potentially stay in the Senate for decades, whereas this will probably be septuagenarian McConnell's final term.
    Last edited by RonPaulFanInGA; 10-18-2014 at 06:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    I don't trust Rasmusseun polling
    They have Obama's approval rating higher than any other polling organization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulFanInGA View Post
    This implies someone decent would replace McConnell as the GOP's Senate leader, when in reality it'd just be John Cornyn, and you'd see no real improvement.


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    I am throwing my full support behind McConnell in this race. In exchange, I expect McConnell to pay more attention to the desires of the actual people of the United States, and not the cronies at the US Chamber of Commerce, the Wall St. Banksters and the Military-Industrial Complex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I am throwing my full support behind McConnell in this race. In exchange, I expect McConnell to pay more attention to the desires of the actual people of the United States, and not the cronies at the US Chamber of Commerce, the Wall St. Banksters and the Military-Industrial Complex.
    lol! He won't. The only leverage normal folks have over politicians is just BEFORE an election. The primary got him to change his vote on a few issues. That leverage is about to end.

    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulFanInGA
    This implies someone decent would replace McConnell as the GOP's Senate leader, when in reality it'd just be John Cornyn, and you'd see no real improvement.

    Grimes is worse. She is young, and can potentially stay in the Senate for decades, whereas this will probably be septuagenarian McConnell's final term.
    Well, I do think it's a fair enough point that his replacement might not be better. Still, removing any establishment backstabbers from the Republican conference is useful - particularly a snake that's that dangerous -it'd open up an interesting senate leadership contest. But the other points I disagree with. 1) How many senators actually retire, despite hinting at it? McCain? Cochran? Byrd? And even if he did, Mitch will try to get his choice elected governor so if he retires, he can appoint the replacement - probably Trey Grayson, who moved back to KY after his stint in the Democrat PAC. 2) Grimes would be easy pickings for Massie or actually any decent Republican. It's only because of his terrible voting record and abysmal approval rating that Mitch has been struggling in a state McCain won by 16% and Rand by 12% with a fraction of the resources.

    This year is/was our chance to break his influence. The closer the margin (for either one,) the bigger the message it sends.

    But there are really no good options, so I won't go on debating it. Just makes me cringe to see liberty people getting sucked into general election fever: "at least he's better than a Democrat" about someone who embodies everything that is wrong with politics. He spent decades destroying our liberty, and literally ran his campaign on payoffs from passing the bailouts. And if voters reward that with re-election, all politicians realize the devil himself could get your vote just because of the letter by his name... and will continue to vote accordingly.
    Original supporter of Ron Paul since 2007 and lifelong supporter of liberty and the Constitution. I stand with Rand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I am throwing my full support behind McConnell in this race. In exchange, I expect McConnell to pay more attention to the desires of the actual people of the United States, and not the cronies at the US Chamber of Commerce, the Wall St. Banksters and the Military-Industrial Complex.
    I almost thought you were being serious for a second. Ya got me.

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    some of Mitch's votes:

    http://www.freedomworks.org/content/...itch-mcconnell

    And this doesn't include his vote to confirm Ruth Bader Ginsburg or his support for Thad Cochran.

    I want to see the R's wrest control of the Senate, but I certainly don't want him as "leader".

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    How's Gil Fulbright doing in this race?

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    It started silly.
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    am talking about new blood and a reset via old time Kentucky politics, if y'all in KY are limited to voting for
    only Trey Grayson, Jack Conway or Ms Alison Grimes when the next senate seat opens up, how do you vote?
    anyway, my thought today is that if Scott Brown returns to the senate after a win over Sen. Jeanne Shaheen
    we might just might shock the nation again! it is a tight race due north of me, and i'm being hit by all those
    American Crossroads commercials. The Geico Spellingbee ad was ripped off... S-H-A-H-E-E-N is not spelled
    O-B-A-M-A in real life but i do think Shemdogg is gettin' a good chuckle over how Romney!care's main man is
    so close to trouncing Ms. Obama!Care personified as the state sits back an' anticipates Senator Rand's 2016 run!

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    Lightbulb

    i'd love to ask Jesse Benton if he thinks Mitch McConnell is that much closer
    to being the Majority Leader of the senate if Scott Brown lucks in again!!!
    unless there is some October surprise that nobody expects, all Alison Grimes
    got from this is a hefty swath of experience points concerning her future.
    our POTUS is so darn close to seeing the senate flip on him, I think Mitch
    McConnell knows this, his being Majority Leader is one of his goals in life!!!

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    Separated at birth:

    Mitch McConnell


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    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 10-21-2014 at 06:26 PM.

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    AntiFederalist, you do indeed know one of our more active threads here is the Walking Dead one?
    I am pleased that JUSTIN AMASH is in the middle of an intense debate tonight and that our own
    SHEMDOGG does look like he has his N.H district getting behind his rolling bandwagon!!! Let alone
    the fact that THOMAS MASSIE is that much closer to a win!!! This election seems tame somehow.
    Lets face it. We all miss Ron Paul but we do have good young candidates fighting the good fight!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    AntiFederalist, you do indeed know one of our more active threads here is the Walking Dead one?
    I am pleased that JUSTIN AMASH is in the middle of an intense debate tonight and that our own
    SHEMDOGG does look like he has his N.H district getting behind his rolling bandwagon!!! Let alone
    the fact that THOMAS MASSIE is that much closer to a win!!! This election seems tame somehow.
    Lets face it. We all miss Ron Paul but we do have good young candidates fighting the good fight!!!
    I'm very pleased to see Shem doing so well.

    Wish he was representing my town.

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    This senate election is weird, it would be almost immoral and highly illegal for me to vote for Scott Brown even if i wanted to,
    and that very conventionally conservative GOP super-PAC has been fatcat flooding New Hampshire with ads and money. they
    want to punish Jeanne Shaheen sooooooooo bad for things. I sorta feel SHEMDOGG and about 100 other GOP contenders are
    about to give Scott Brown a boost via their coattails, rather than vica versa. Voters sometimes do not trust interlopers who are
    "carpetbaggers" who traipse over borders glibly. Scott Brown does know how to glad hand. this lil N.H senate race is like a big
    grand staged wrestling match. I hope the TV ad campaigns don't sour the voters on actually voting because all the local districts
    have able people. SHEMDOGG much earlier confided to us that he is going for a seat in a district that likes to vote REPUBLICAN!!!



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