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    Judging Ourselves and Others

    Judging Ourselves and Others

    Posted on October 16, 2014
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    I recently wrote about the Restless Emptiness that so many of us feel. As I mentioned before, the reason we feel restless and empty inside is because we have these alien tyrants called the “passions” ruling us from the throne of our hearts.

    My recent posts have been along the same theme: diagnosing and finding the proper therapy for the emptiness that we have within us. This post follows along those same lines.

    Most of this blog will be based on the teachings of Elder Paisios; taken from the book Spiritual Struggle. I will often refer to him as “the Elder.”

    ON NOT JUSTIFYING OURSELVES

    Like the Beatitudes that Jesus taught, the teachings of the Orthodox Church on judgment and justice take the wisdom of the world, turn it upside down, and slam it on its head.

    Both the scriptures and the fathers of the Church are clear on this topic. And the teaching is likely the opposite of anything you’ve heard growing up in our culture:

    If we are ridiculed or judged because we have done even the slightest amount of wrong (which is 99.9% of the time for me), then we are to endure the judgment, ridicule, and harsh words of others as a healing balm for our souls. This is part of taking up the cross and following Jesus, who did not die to free us from suffering but rather that we could suffer and die with Him. We cannot be raised with Him if we are not willing to die with Him.

    When I am criticized, I find that if I carefully examine my thoughts, motivations, and actions, then I can usually find some degree of fault within myself. In doing so, I realize I must accept the insult and injury as a form of crucifying my ego.

    Regarding this topic Elder Paisios states, “One who justifies himself with excuses makes no progress in the spiritual life, nor can he find any inner peace.” While speaking with a group of nuns, he expounded this saying,

    I must understand that when I try to justify myself with excuses, I’m in a wrong state of mind. I cut off my communication with God and am deprived of divine Grace, because divine Grace does not come to one who is in a wrong state. The moment a person justifies the unjustifiable, he is separated from God…There is no stronger barrier to the Grace of God than excuses!

    Elder Paisios

    BUT WHAT IF…??!!


    “But what if it really isn’t my fault, and I am the victim?”

    There are times that we are accused of wrong doing, whether through a misunderstanding or the malicious intent of another person. Whatever the case, the Church Fathers teach us that we must endure this persecution as Christ endured the cross. This is happening for our salvation.

    Elder Paisios states that there are four stages of maturity in receiving injustice. For example, let’s say somebody hurls an insult at you.


    • Stage 1 – We hurl an insult back and we feel upset or perhaps we believe we have a “righteous” anger.
    • Stage 2 – We feel anger arising inside of us; we are hurt, but we hold our tongue and walk away.
    • Stage 3 – The insult does not upset us.
    • Stage 4 – Elated joyfulness at suffering injustice. This is what the apostles experienced when they were persecuted and they rejoiced, praising God that they were found worthy to suffer for Him. (Acts 5:41)


    Again, the Elder teaches:

    When you accept an injustice and are prepared to justify your neighbor, you accept Christ himself into your heart, Who was often wronged and maligned. It is then that Christ cannot be evicted from your heart and fills you with peace and gladness.
    For me, this is by far the minority as there is often fault within myself when faced with a difficult situation. In this we must be careful, because we can easily fall into the trap of taking on the “martyr complex” and assuming everyone is out to persecute us. When that happens, we become blind to the passions within us and slowly die spiritually as we pat ourselves on the back every time we’re insulated saying, “You’re such a good person; God is going to richly reward you for suffering this persecution.”

    The exceptions to quietly accepting injustice include a gentle and careful explanation of ourselves if our perceived actions/intentions have hurt others because of a misunderstanding, or if we are attempting to support a family and the false accusations could cause financial distress (i.e. being falsely accused of a crime or being fired for a misunderstanding at work), or if it could tear a family apart (i.e. if someone falsely accuses a married person of having an affair).

    Aside from those few exceptions (and perhaps others given to you by your spiritual father), we should receive injustice with joy knowing that by doing so we are co-suffering with Christ and will receive the reward of His rich presence and Grace in our lives. If Christ could endure insults, spitting, mocking, beatings, and crucifixion for us, can’t we endure an occasional unjustified insult for Him?

    BUT WHAT IF WE KNOW THAT SOMEBODY ELSE IS WRONG

    There are times we see others performing actions that we know are wrong. What should we do then? The Elder provides a couple of examples,

    He who does his spiritual work correctly finds excuses for everyone else in order to justify their shortcomings, but never justifies himself, even when he is in the right…

    For example, he sees someone stealing and thinks to himself, “If I had not been helped by God, I would now be stealing more than he is”…Or, if he sees a certain shortcoming in another person, be it serious or trivial, he will excuse him with good and positive thoughts. He thinks of his own many shortcomings…

    In other words, we are to take all of that creative energy we previously used to justify our own behavior and use it instead to excuse the sins that we perceive in others. Two exceptions would be when we are in a position of spiritual authority or if someone is asking us for some form of guidance.

    SPIRITUAL DESTRUCTION



    Self-justification leads to our destruction.

    We read about it in the opening chapters of Genesis when Adam and Eve fell. What did they do? Adam blamed Eve who in turn blamed the serpent. Then they were all exiled from Paradise. And in the same way, when we excuse our behavior, we exile ourselves from experiencing Paradise right now with God and possibly in the future.

    When someone is constantly justifying himself, considering that others don’t understand him, others are unjust, and he is the suffering victim, from then on such a person is beyond control…

    Self-justification is a satanic interpretation of reality.

    The Elder goes on to state that those who refuse to receive insults or even reprimands are beyond spiritual help. They have abandoned the way of God and, no matter how religious they appear, they are on a very dark road.

    WRAPPING IT UP

    This blog is meant to be merely a brief introduction to this relevant subject that most of us face. For a more in-depth treatment, books such as Spiritual Struggle, The Spiritual Life and How to Be Attuned to It, and The Arena may help.
    As Americans, we are taught to claim our rights. In fact, in this modern age with its ideas of progress, the teachings of Christ and His Church are thought to be backward. “What do you mean accept injustice? That’s so barbaric!” And we begin to find all sorts of reason or excuses, no matter how extreme, to say that this stuff isn’t true and doesn’t apply to us.
    But as the scriptures make clear, God’s ways are not the world’s ways, no matter how much the world says their ideas are good, progressive, or modern. Unfortunately, most of us here in this culture have been brainwashed by its message of feel-good self-justification. Because of that, we are also a culture that struggles greatly with depression, despondency, and even suicide. In this we see the Church’s wisdom: turn the other cheek and do not judge others.

    It is difficult, especially at first. What I found to be helpful was every time I felt irritation or anger arising in me, to quickly stop and examine myself. I try to find some degree of fault within me and then pray that the Lord blesses the one who made me upset. By doing so I judge myself in a healthy manner and strive with the Lord toward purification of my heart. If I truly am not at fault, then I will try to remember to praise God for allowing me to suffer with Him.

    It is a process, and like everything else in the spiritual life, there won’t be any overnight success. But becoming aware of a spiritual sickness is the first step toward healing.
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    'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ



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    Love Your Enemies?

    October 7, 2014 by Fr. Michael Tervo
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    Anyone can love and be loved. Loving your enemies is the mark of a true Christian.

    The Lord said, “And as you wish that men would do to you, do so to them. If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. And if you lend to those from whom you hope to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to receive as much again. But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for he is kind to the ungrateful and the selfish. Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful.” —Luke 6:31–36

    In this Gospel passage Jesus says quite a remarkable thing. Without contradicting His other teachings He tells us that simple love is not the full measure of being a Christian. Think about it: Love itself is not the measure. Rather, it is who and how we love that serves as a witness to the Gospel.

    Listen to what Jesus says:

    If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them.

    Even sinners—those who reject God, those who are enemies not only to us but also to the Most High—even these sinners love those who love them. Sinners love their children. They are loved by their mothers. Sinners love puppies or at least cats. Adolph Hitler was adored by his nephews and nieces. One does not need to know God to love and be loved.

    Though it is easy to forget, loving and being loved in and of themselves are not signs of being a Christian.

    If fact, many times it is quite the opposite! Being unappreciated, despised, ignored, left out as a result standing up for the Gospel and responding with patience, understanding, and generosity (just to name a few examples) are marks of being a Christian. We are not called to merely love only those who are like us. Our love, says the Lord, must go further. Our love must be without expectation of love in return—the kind of love we would receive from our enemies.

    Some, if not most people we meet may have nothing spiritually or materially to offer back. Not everyone has the means, knowledge, or discernment to give back! Gratitude—something we expect so much—is something we all take for granted.
    But Jesus sets the rules: Do good. Lend, hoping for nothing in return. Be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful. If we love according to these rules we can speak the truths of the Gospel.

    If we can love as God does, “even unto the unthankful and the evil,” we would have love that is potent. Our acts would convert, soften hearts, and slap sleepy people awake. This love could make enemies aware of their sin, anger, apathy, coldness, hatred—in other words, it could make them aware of their distance from God, leading them to repentence.
    Loving our enemies may just make them stop being our enemies. Then again, it might not. If you love them and continue giving to them, even stubbornly, without expecting anything in return, you might still receive nothing in return.

    However, the person who is a blockhead towards you may be receptive to Christ because of you. And at least you will receive your reward from God, who never forgets to repay kindness with kindness, especially to those who cooperate in His work of re-making all human beings into His sons and daughters. God will bless you all the more if you realize this and keep plugging away.

    In the statement “Christians love their enemies,” the verb love is not the most important word to describe Christians. The word love really doesn’t tell or teach us all that much. Rather, it is the direct object of that verb—“their enemies”—that describes who a true Christian is, and what a true Christian does towards others. Even towards our enemies.

    Christ prayed for those that crucified Him: “Father, count not this sin against them; they know not what they do.” Archdeacon Stephen prayed for those who stoned him so that the Lord would not judge this sin against them. And so we, if we wish to retain grace, must pray for our enemies. If you do not find pity on a sinner who will suffer in flames, then you do not carry the grace of the Holy Spirit, but rather an evil spirit; and while you yet live, you must free yourself from his clutches through repentance. —St. Silouan the Athonite
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    'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ

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    Now the ultimate RPF challenge. Love Dick Cheney and think about your own faults instead of his.
    Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law. -Douglas Hofstadter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crashland View Post
    Now the ultimate RPF challenge. Love Dick Cheney and think about your own faults instead of his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    What is impossible for man is possible with God!
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    'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ

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    Judge not him who is guilty of fornication, if you are chaste, or you will break the law like him. For He who said Do not commit fornication said also Do not judge.

    - St. Pambos
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    'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by TER View Post
    Judge not him who is guilty of fornication, if you are chaste, or you will break the law like him. For He who said Do not commit fornication said also Do not judge.

    - St. Pambos
    I'm more concerned with what Jesus said than some fallible, sinful "saint".
    Ephesians 2:8-9-

    8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

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    No one is a "saint" because the church decrees it. No church, and no ecclesiastical organization has the power or authority to declare anyone a saint. Nor does any church or ecclesiastical organization have any power to remove sainthood from anyone. Sainthood is the sovereign decision of God the Holy Spirit based on the individual's faith in Jesus Christ. Therefore, the Holy Spirit declares all those to be "saints," "Set apart for God," who have placed their faith in Christ as Savior.

    Sainthood is not limited to certain individuals who have done great things for God. Sainthood belongs to all believers who have personally placed their faith in Jesus Christ. Some saints are great people, some saints are not so good, and some saints are a disgrace to God. But they are still saints. They are all "set apart for God." Therefore, don't be misled by false teachers, and false religions who claim that they can make the decision to make someone a saint, or remove someone from sainthood. They are superimposing their authority over God's authority.

    When it comes to sainthood, it is a matter strictly between you and God. If you have placed your faith in Jesus Christ, then the Bible says that you are a saint. There is nothing else to do to qualify. Are you a saint? Have you placed your faith in Jesus Christ? If you have, then you are a saint. But if you haven't, then you are not a saint. In fact, you aren't even a child of God. So therefore, I challenge you today to "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved...." and at the same time you will become a saint.

    http://www.angelfire.com/mt/tabor/bibledoctrine.8.html
    Ephesians 2:8-9-

    8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin007 View Post
    I'm more concerned with what Jesus said than some fallible, sinful "saint".
    Why do you pick fights? OP is about judging people. I can play this game too. I am more concerned about what the Bible says than what some fallable, sinful people over at http://www.jesus-is-savior.com say.

    (Edit: Or at http://www.angelfire.com/mt/tabor/bibledoctrine.8.html )
    Last edited by Crashland; 10-18-2014 at 12:56 AM.
    Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law. -Douglas Hofstadter

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    Romans 2:1-3
    "You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment?"
    Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law. -Douglas Hofstadter

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    most misapplied verse. This isn't talking about judging doctrine (false doctrine).
    Ephesians 2:8-9-

    8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin007 View Post
    most misapplied verse. This isn't talking about judging doctrine (false doctrine).
    No, I didn't mean to say it was necessarily. Seems to me more about hypocrisy and human arrogance.

    It is easier to love your enemies when you see your own faults with humility.
    Last edited by Crashland; 10-18-2014 at 01:29 AM.
    Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law. -Douglas Hofstadter

    Life, Liberty, Logic

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    We will be known forever by the tracks we leave. - Dakota


    Go Forward With Courage

    When you are in doubt, be still, and wait;
    when doubt no longer exists for you, then go forward with courage.
    So long as mists envelop you, be still;
    be still until the sunlight pours through and dispels the mists
    -- as it surely will.
    Then act with courage.

    Ponca Chief White Eagle



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