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    274:12- UK Parliament votes to recognise Palestinian state, will US Congress vote for Freedom?

    UK Parliament votes to recognise Palestinian state, will US Congress vote also for US government to support Freedom for Palestinians in coming days? Or infamous Obama-Adler reset will define US stance on this?


    Palestine vote: MPs take historic decision to recognise Palestinian state


    Voting by 274 to 12, a majority of 262, MPs on all sides urged the Government to 'recognise the state of Palestine'

    Monday 13 October 2014
    Parliament took the historic step tonight of voting unilaterally to back the recognition of Palestinian statehood.
    Voting by 274 to 12, a majority of 262, MPs on all sides urged the Government to “recognise the state of Palestine alongside the state of Israel” as part of a “contribution to securing a negotiated two-state solution”.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-9792485.html




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    2009:
    U.S.-Israeli relationship takes new direction


    By Jeffrey Heller
    JERUSALEM Tue Jun 2, 2009

    "The president doesn't want to see even one cement mixer in the West Bank," an Israeli political source, briefed by Netanyahu aides, quoted U.S. Middle East envoy George Mitchell telling an Israeli delegation that met him in London last week.
    Possible scenarios for twisting Netanyahu's arm could range from U.S. inaction at the United Nations in thwarting resolutions critical of Israel to choking off some military supplies, political sources and commentators said.
    "Delaying the shipment of spares for the Apaches can ground the air force," political columnist Ben Caspit wrote in Maariv, referring to Israel's U.S.-made attack helicopters.
    "The replenishment of ammunition and weapons supplies in the event of another expected conflagration in the Gaza Strip or Lebanon is a matter of American goodwill," Caspit said.
    Few expect Washington ever to go as far as to hurt Israel's defences, but it does have other diplomatic pressure points.

    http://in.reuters.com/article/2009/0...40040020090602


    2012:

    Publisher of the ‘Atlanta Jewish Times’ suggests Mossad should assassinate Obama
    Adam Horowitz on January 20, 2012
    John Cook reports at Gawker:
    Andrew Adler, the owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, a weekly newspaper serving Atlanta’s Jewish community, devoted his January 13, 2012 column to the thorny problem of the U.S. and Israel’s diverging views on the threat posed by Iran. Basically Israel has three options, he wrote: Strike Hezbollah and Hamas, strike Iran, or “order a hit” on Barack Obama. Either way, problem solved!
    Here’s how Adler laid out “option three” in his list of scenarios facing Israeli president Benjamin Netanyahu (the column, which was forwarded to us by a tipster, isn’t online, but you can read a copy here):
    Three, give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel in order for the current vice president to take his place, and forcefully dictate that the United States’ policy includes its helping the Jewish state obliterate its enemies.

    Yes, you read “three” correctly. Order a hit on a president in order to preserve Israel’s existence. Think about it. If I have thought of this Tom Clancy-type scenario, don’t you think that this almost unfathomable idea has been discussed in Israel’s most inner circles?
    Another way of putting “three” in perspective goes something like this: How far would you go to save a nation comprised of seven million lives…Jews, Christians and Arabs alike?
    You have got to believe, like I do, that all options are on the table.







    2014:

    Israel appropriates massive tract of West Bank land

    Move comes in wake of kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teens; intention is to build a large settlement, Gvaot, between the Etzion settlement bloc and Jerusalem.

    By Chaim Levinson | Aug. 31, 2014

    Outpost Watch: Obama's future minefield - and Netanyahu's
    By Bradley Burston | Jun. 22, 2009 | 3:56 PM

    Israel planning mass expansion of West Bank settlement bloc

    By Akiva Eldar | Feb. 27, 2009 | 1:26 AM

    The appropriation of 3,799 dunams (988 acres) of West Bank land between the Etzion settlement bloc and Jerusalem was announced on Sunday by the Israel Defense Forces' Civil Administration.
    The appropriation was decided on by the cabinet last week as a response to the kidnapping and killing of three Jewish teens by Hamas militants in the area in June, according to the administration's announcement.
    Anti-settlement group Peace Now said it was the largest land appropriation in 30 years.
    The intention of appropriating the land is to create territorial continuity between the Green Line and settlements of Beitar Illit, Kfar Etzion, and Gvaot.
    The appropriated land belongs to five Palestinian villages in the Bethlehem area: Jaba, Surif, Wadi Fukin, Husan and Nahalin.

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...emium-1.613319


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    U.S. had emergency plan for attacking Israel in 1967
    Haaretz
    Apr 23, 2007 -
    For some time, the United States had had an emergency plan to attack Israel, a plan updated just prior to the 1967 war, aimed at preventing Israel from expanding westward, into Sinai, or eastward, into the West Bank.
    In May 1967, one of the U.S. commands was charged with the task of removing the plan from the safe, refreshing it and preparing for an order to go into action.

    Checking in for a flight has never been the same since 1967

    9/11 was to punish U.S. for Israel policy: Philip Zelikow 9/11 Commission Exec. Dir.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHel...VwYbu6X-cQuvMM

    Gropefest: Palestinians & Americans Coming Closer..



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    CPUd do you call for US gummit to reconize Free Palestinian State, or do you support political Zionism or are nonaligned/confused on this question?

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    it will never pass a US Congress. but this is the job of the president, and someday an outgoing president will do it. Perhaps Obama, or a 2nd term Rand. Palestine is not even ready. it is occupied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cindy25 View Post
    it will never pass a US Congress. but this is the job of the president, and someday an outgoing president will do it. Perhaps Obama, or a 2nd term Rand. Palestine is not even ready. it is occupied.
    EM.

    While you have a point with regards to many lapdogs of foreign interest lobbies in current Congress, never say never. It will likely be done by ending US taxpayers funding for all foreign parasite occupation dictatorship regimes assortment.

    U.S. had emergency plan for attacking Israel in 1967
    Haaretz
    Apr 23, 2007 -
    For some time, the United States had had an emergency plan to attack Israel, a plan updated just prior to the 1967 war, aimed at preventing Israel from expanding westward, into Sinai, or eastward, into the West Bank.
    In May 1967, one of the U.S. commands was charged with the task of removing the plan from the safe, refreshing it and preparing for an order to go into action.



    The Brakes Come Off in British Parliament's Vote on Palestinian Statehood

    10/14/2014 3:21
    At some point in the process that led to the end of the conflict in Northern Ireland, there was an audible snap, a break in the link between the mother ship, the British government, and Protestant Unionism which considers itself the last outpost of British Crown on the island of Ireland. Was it the Anglo-Irish Agreement between Britain and Ireland, which that arch unionist Margaret Thatcher signed? Or was it the landing of the first helicopter from the Irish Republic at Hillsborough Castle, the residence of the British secretary of state?
    For Israel, an umbilical cord carrying the lifeblood of the state extends between it and Washington. Just imagine the speeches in the British Parliament that voted to recognize Palestinian statehood on Monday being uttered on Capitol Hill. They would have been unrepeatable in the US Congress.

    Nevertheless, there was an audible snap in Britain on Monday night. Freed of the burden of saying what Israel and its lobby demanded to hear, politicians of right and left said what they felt.
    Sir Richard Ottaway, the Tory chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee, one who, in his own words had stood by Israel through thick and thin said that such was his anger at the Israeli government's annexation of 950 acres of the West Bank, that he would abstain.
    Sir Alan Duncan, the former Tory minister for international development compared the settlements in the West Bank to the apartheid system of South Africa and said they represented a "wicked cocktail" of occupation. In a speech to the Royal United Services Institute, the chief think tank of the British defense establishment, on Tuesday Duncan said: "Anyone who supports illegal Israeli settlements in Palestinian land is an extremist who puts themselves outside the boundaries of democratic standards. They are not fit to stand for election or sit in a democratic parliament."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-...b_5984930.html

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    Nah , I doubt it .That would mean recognizing a govt there .The US congress would be the last to do so , my guess .I also do not know if accepting a govt and setting a border changes anything. That would be between the two parties there and if one made a proposal I doubt the other would accept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cindy25 View Post
    it will never pass a US Congress. but this is the job of the president, and someday an outgoing president will do it. Perhaps Obama, or a 2nd term Rand. Palestine is not even ready. it is occupied.
    With France recently voting also to support freedom for Palestinians and with recent France events, urgency to end occupation would increase even for US.

    His excellency Pope has also put his weight behind this push.



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    Congress will vote whichever way their handlers bribe them to.
    "One thing my years in Washington taught me is that most politicians are followers, not leaders. Therefore we should not waste time and resources trying to educate politicians. Politicians will not support individual liberty and limited government unless and until they are forced to do so by the people," says Ron Paul."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZENemy View Post
    Congress will vote whichever way their handlers bribe them to.
    With a non-bribeable alpha POTUS in the White House now, things would change soon.


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