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    I Let the Government Microwave Raw Chicken for Me. Here’s What Happened.

    I Let the Government Microwave Raw Chicken for Me. Here’s What Happened.

    A couple of years back, General Electric celebrated its cozy relationship with the federal government by putting a button on some of its microwaves by which the government would help you cook your food, as long as it was the right kind of food. Here’s how Appliance Magazine described it back in 2011:

    Over-the-range microwave ovens from GE Appliances are now being equipped with a MyPlate button, allowing users to easily cook foods found in the U.S. Department of Agriculture's (USDA) recommended dietary guidelines.

    MyPlate, the federal government’s new food icon, was introduced in June 2011 by First Lady Michelle Obama and Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack. It is designed to help consumers make healthier food choices by. It is intended to help prompt consumers to think about building a healthy plate at meal times and to seek more information to help them do so. Healthy eating information is provided at the new web site, www.ChooseMyPlate.gov.
    As I don’t pay huge amounts of attention to the home kitchen appliance market, I had no idea any of this had happened. Neither did my family, who drove out to the coast last week here in Southern California for vacation. So we all ended up a little mystified when we encountered the button on the microwave in the resort suite where they spent the week. Here it is below:



    There’s no way of knowing what the purpose of the button is just by looking at it (though there are some instructions posted inside the door of the microwave). So I pressed it and ended up cycling through menu after menu of food options just for the purpose of having the microwave set the timer for me. It was time-consuming, redundant and a little bit strange. There was a setting for popcorn that took several button presses to get to, even though the microwave already had a button for popcorn. Since it was menu-based, it couldn’t possibly account for the huge variety of healthy food options available, so there were huge gaps. The number of vegetable choices would take less than two hands to count out. There were three whole fish entries (whitefish, salmon and tilapia). Poultry consisted of chicken, with or without bones. The grains were things like rice, oatmeal, and quinoa that have additional prep steps before microwaving or probably already had microwave instructions on whatever packaging they came in.

    Once I got to the chicken, I knew we had to try it out. My first thought about the button was that it was silly and useless, but harmless. But having the government cook chicken for you introduced a potential contamination hazard if it was underdone. I purchased some chicken breasts from a nearby grocery store, tossed them on a plate and let the government cook it for me. My prediction: Due to potential fears of liability, it would actually be overcooked rather than undercooked (imagine being able to sue both General Electric and the federal government!). But I was wrong. It actually turned out just fine. It was a little bit dry around the edges, but fully cooked and moist inside. It tasted fine, though uninspired (I didn’t season it)

    The fact that it worked doesn’t make the button any less silly and irrelevant. It’s also hilarious that the URL listed on the button isn’t the right address. MyPlate.gov isn’t an actual site. If you try to go there you’ll get an error message. It’s www.ChooseMyPlate.gov. If the microwave button’s true purpose was to promote the USDA’s food nannying, they couldn’t even get that right.

    If you want to see the button in action, here's a General Electric promotional video on YouTube that hardly anybody seems to have watched. Resources well spent!


    http://reason.com/blog/2014/10/13/i-...wave-raw-chick



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    Meanwhile... GE probably gets a $5 billion kickback for installing the nanny button.

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    Holy cow, this isn't a satire piece?
    It's a perfectly transparent example of a state initiative. Literally perfect.
    Billions spent on an initiative which solves an already solved problem by adding a bunch of unnecessary overhead.
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    So I pressed it and ended up cycling through menu after menu of food options just for the purpose of having the microwave set the timer for me. It was time-consuming, redundant and a little bit strange. There was a setting for popcorn that took several button presses to get to, even though the microwave already had a button for popcorn. Since it was menu-based, it couldn’t possibly account for the huge variety of healthy food options available, so there were huge gaps. The number of vegetable choices would take less than two hands to count out.

    Aw, screw all that pre-set stuff! I just punch in for thirty minutes at full blast and let 'er rip.

    When the smoke starts rolling out from behind the door I know it's "done."



    Joking aside, who the **** cooks stuff like salmon and chicken breasts in the microwave?!? I have to microwave a LOT more stuff than I like, and if there's one thing I can guarantee it's the fact that ANYTHING cooked in the microwave is going to taste worse/tougher/drier/chewier than cooking the same thing on the stove top or oven.

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    The best thing to do with that microwave is throw it in the woods. Microwaving food zaps the nutrients in your food.


    Hans Hertel, a Swiss scientist, states:

    “There are no atoms, molecules or cells of any organic system able to withstand such a violent, destructive power for any extended period of time, not even in the low energy range of milliwatts… This is how microwave cooking heat is generated – friction from this violence in water molecules. Structures of molecules are torn apart, molecules are forcefully deformed (called structural isomerism) and thus become impaired in quality.”
    http://naturalsociety.com/microwaves/
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    The best thing to do with that microwave is throw it in the woods. Microwaving food zaps the nutrients in your food.
    I don't see how you can even cook with one. I only ever get hot plates and cold food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    I don't see how you can even cook with one. I only ever get hot plates and cold food.
    I agree. Only food that I ever ate out of a microwave had a rubbery texture and no flavor. Yuk!

    A couple of weeks ago I ordered a lime chicken dish at Applebee's. When it came out, two things made me know, instantly, they microwaved my food. 1. They double plated my food. 2. My chicken was rubbery and had no flavor. I summons the waitress over and asked her if they microwaved my chicken?...she didn't know. I asked he to check and get back with me. She came back and sheepishly said, "yes, they microwaved it." I asked her to take it back and off my bill and I ordered a Caesar salad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    The best thing to do with that microwave is throw it in the woods. Microwaving food zaps the nutrients in your food.

    Hans Hertel, a Swiss scientist, states:

    “There are no atoms, molecules or cells of any organic system able to withstand such a violent, destructive power for any extended period of time, not even in the low energy range of milliwatts… This is how microwave cooking heat is generated – friction from this violence in water molecules. Structures of molecules are torn apart, molecules are forcefully deformed (called structural isomerism) and thus become impaired in quality.”
    http://naturalsociety.com/microwaves/
    I'm not a big fan of microwaved food either, but this Hertel claim is bull$#@!.

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    how can microwaves destroy atoms when all they do is heat up the water molecules? That's like saying vegetables boiling in a pot destroys all the nutritional value
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    how can microwaves destroy atoms when all they do is heat up the water molecules? That's like saying vegetables boiling in a pot destroys all the nutritional value
    It does...all that green water left behind in the pot? That's the nutrients being poured down the drain.

    Veggies should lightly and gently steamed or baked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    I'm not a big fan of microwaved food either, but this Hertel claim is bull$#@!.
    Dr. Hans Hertel 's Experiment with Microwave cooked food
    http://manbir-online.com/htm3/new.45.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Dr. Hans Hertel 's Experiment with Microwave cooked food
    http://manbir-online.com/htm3/new.45.htm
    I am familiar with all the microwave 'experiments', including Hertel, Kopp and just about anything reposted from Mercola.

    They have not shown microwaves to be any more harmful to food than conventional cooking methods. It's not always the best way to prepare certain foods though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCIndy View Post
    Aw, screw all that pre-set stuff! I just punch in for thirty minutes at full blast and let 'er rip.

    When the smoke starts rolling out from behind the door I know it's "done."



    Joking aside, who the **** cooks stuff like salmon and chicken breasts in the microwave?!? I have to microwave a LOT more stuff than I like, and if there's one thing I can guarantee it's the fact that ANYTHING cooked in the microwave is going to taste worse/tougher/drier/chewier than cooking the same thing on the stove top or oven.
    I can probably count the times in my life that I've eaten microwaved food on one hand, but I can still remember how, on the few times when I did, it was much worse than that same food cooked by a conventional oven. Why does anyone own these things? Sure, they're fast, but you would think the downside of turning your food into an inedible lump of coal by bombarding it with radiation would be enough to discourage most people from owning one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    I'm not a big fan of microwaved food either, but this Hertel claim is bull$#@!.
    Got anything to back that up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    how can microwaves destroy atoms when all they do is heat up the water molecules? That's like saying vegetables boiling in a pot destroys all the nutritional value
    Boiling vegetables does take away some of its nutritional value. Cooking any vegetables technically reduces their nutritional value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    It does...all that green water left behind in the pot? That's the nutrients being poured down the drain.

    Veggies should lightly and gently steamed or baked.
    Or eaten raw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    I am familiar with all the microwave 'experiments', including Hertel, Kopp and just about anything reposted from Mercola.

    They have not shown microwaves to be any more harmful to food than conventional cooking methods. It's not always the best way to prepare certain foods though.
    I think the decreased quality of the food speaks for itself. Don't tell me you can't tell the difference between microwaved food and conventionally cooked food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulConventionWV View Post
    I think the decreased quality of the food speaks for itself. Don't tell me you can't tell the difference between microwaved food and conventionally cooked food.
    Doesn't mean it is any less safe to eat. These people would have you believe it is beaming carcinogens into the food because microwave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Doesn't mean it is any less safe to eat. These people would have you believe it is beaming carcinogens into the food because microwave.
    For crying out loud, what do you think the loss of taste means? It has to mean something. You don't just turn your food into a tasteless hunk of rubber without having some effect on its nutritional value.

    When did a lack of scientific inquiry start meaning that people can just ignore common sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulConventionWV View Post
    For crying out loud, what do you think the loss of taste means? It has to mean something. You don't just turn your food into a tasteless hunk of rubber without having some effect on its nutritional value.
    Food often tastes different and has a different consistency when it is cold versus hot, wet vs dry. When you cook food, you are making changes to the temperature and moisture content over a specific amount of time. If you raise the temperature and evaporate moisture too fast, it could adversely affect the taste and consistency. Heating meats too fast or drying too much will make them tough. With a microwave, you are giving up some of that control. Any method you use to cook food will have an effect on its nutritional content. Sometimes cooking in a microwave preserves nutrients better than conventional methods, and vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    how can microwaves destroy atoms when all they do is heat up the water molecules? That's like saying vegetables boiling in a pot destroys all the nutritional value
    I'm not sure, but apparently there is some polarity reversals in fats that can randomly turn some of them into trans fats. Dunno if it's true, but sound plausible.
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    heck add some water on the plate before throwing it in. if you're real worried saran wrap it to keep the moisture in. There's nothing wrong with using a "nuker"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbauer View Post
    heck add some water on the plate before throwing it in. if you're real worried saran wrap it to keep the moisture in. There's nothing wrong with using a "nuker"
    Wow, really? Are you being serious? You call it a "nuker" and yet you think it's perfectly safe? Do you know what that name implies?
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    I want a "Gamma Irradiation" sterilization button (or manually operated shutter door to a hard source)
    option on a microwave oven to allow me to satisfy my cravings for raw pork, chicken and beef.

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    How long until "Govt Gave Me Food Poisoning" headline

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    Quote Originally Posted by fr33 View Post
    How long until "Govt Gave Me Food Poisoning" headline
    They have their asses covered.

    Have you not seen the government funded commercials instructing you on how long to cook your food?

    "Ask Sarah" or some such $#@!.
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