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Thread: What happens first? Rise in rates or more QE?

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    What happens first? Rise in rates or more QE?

    What do you think will happen first, the Fed raising rates or more QE? Either way it has to be significant, let's say at least 2% for rates and 50 billion a month for QE.

    My money is on a resumption of QE.



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    I think they'll want to gauge the damage they've done. It's all about the velocity, I think. I don't think they want more QE, but if things pick up too fast, they won't want to spook anyone by raising rates so fast. QE is easy for them.
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    If the Dow keeps falling they're going to have to do more QE.

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    QE is scheduled to end in a couple weeks. Next Fed meeting is October 28th where they will announce the end of their security purchases. They will probably continue to roll over the ones they have into new replacement ones as they mature. They have said they don't expect to raise interest rates until sometime next year at the earliest.
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 10-13-2014 at 03:47 PM.

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    Who knows ? They will roll that $#@! over forever , rates are going nowhere . Avg guy has lost all gains in his 401K this calendar yr in the past four weeks , most likely.All very Rosy .

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    More QE. No doubt about it.

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    Neither choice reflects reality. Rates have been falling while qe is scaled down.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    QE is scheduled to end in a couple weeks. Next Fed meeting is October 28th where they will announce the end of their security purchases. They will probably continue to roll over the ones they have into new replacement ones as they mature. They have said they don't expect to raise interest rates until sometime next year at the earliest.
    Did you read the question? What do YOU think is going to happen first? More QE or higher rates?

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    If the Feds actually follow through next year with the rising of interest rates, they will quickly retract and go back to QE. That assumes of course that they won't continue QE after Oct 28th. To answer the OP's question QE BABY!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    Did you read the question? What do YOU think is going to happen first? More QE or higher rates?
    Did you read my responce? QE ends this month. Higher interest rates not likely until next year. Which comes sooner? This month or next year?

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    Fed can't raise rates. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Did you read my responce? QE ends this month. Higher interest rates not likely until next year. Which comes sooner? This month or next year?
    I asked you what YOU think is going to happen and you told me what the FEDERAL RESERVE said they think is going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon4liberty View Post
    If the Feds actually follow through next year with the rising of interest rates, they will quickly retract and go back to QE. That assumes of course that they won't continue QE after Oct 28th. To answer the OP's question QE BABY!!!!
    Yup. That's why I said it has to be significant. They might raise rates to .25 or .5 before they reverse course. They'll never get it up to something like 2%. At least not until disaster strikes and prices start running out of control. At that point they won't care if we lapse into a depression because the inflation will be so bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    Fed can't raise rates. Period.
    Yep. The added costs of a higher interest rate would crush the economy

    However, continued QE risks hyper-inflating the dollar.

    The Fed is caught between a rock and a hard place.

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    My conspiracy theory: Energy prices are dropping to spur the world economy which they hope to spark a fire somewhere. China? US? EU? (shrug).

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!



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    Quote Originally Posted by jllundqu View Post
    Fed can't raise rates. Period.
    I tend to agree , nothing significant .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    My conspiracy theory: Energy prices are dropping to spur the world economy which they hope to spark a fire somewhere. China? US? EU? (shrug).
    Zerohedge had a conspiracy theory that Saudi Arabia was selling oil cheap to try to put pressure on Russia. As a return favor to us for intervening in Syria (I think?).

    I doubt that oil will stay this low for very long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    My conspiracy theory: Energy prices are dropping to spur the world economy which they hope to spark a fire somewhere. China? US? EU? (shrug).
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/oil-pr...093534986.html


    Ah, another weapon against Russia.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Still time to make your bets!

    And make sure you read Zippy's post for comic relief!

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    Bump.

    June is coming up soon. Remember that the vast majority of "economic experts" predicted a rate hike by June. Let's see if they're right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    Bump.

    June is coming up soon. Remember that the vast majority of "economic experts" predicted a rate hike by June. Let's see if they're right.
    I would bet a silver dime against it.Just my guess.

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    I don't recall anybody saying it would occur in June but that it could happen as early as June. Most said towards the second half of this year if the economy continues to improve.



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