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Thread: Blackwater founder Erik Prince is a libertarian and Paul supporter

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    Blackwater founder Erik Prince is a libertarian and Paul supporter

    This article is almost a year old...but very much worth reading.

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/26/bl...re-the-future/

    Among the things he says:
    -Government spending is our greatest threat
    -Private armies are the future
    -He was targeted by the IRS
    -He is a libertarian Ron Paul supporter and believer in Austrian economics
    -He agrees with Rand Paul's concern over droning Americans
    -Talks about how using drones creates terrorists
    -He would make the State Department a lot smaller
    -He favors letters of marque and reprisal to go after terrorists, not mass invasions

    This guy needs to be on Team Rand 2016.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TaftFan View Post
    This article is almost a year old...but very much worth reading.

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/26/bl...re-the-future/

    Among the things he says:
    -Government spending is our greatest threat
    -Private armies are the future
    -He was targeted by the IRS
    -He is a libertarian Ron Paul supporter and believer in Austrian economics
    -He agrees with Rand Paul's concern over droning Americans
    -Talks about how using drones creates terrorists
    -He would make the State Department a lot smaller
    -He favors letters of marque and reprisal to go after terrorists, not mass invasions

    This guy needs to be on Team Rand 2016.
    Erik Prince should be in a prison cell for [at the least] what happened at the Nisour Square.
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

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    I was amazed he donated $5,000 to Ron Paul....


    What was the contribution to Gingrich?
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

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    LOL. I nominate this for joke thread of the year.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    This is like these "bunny ranch hookers support Ron Paul" pieces... He is hurting more than helping by speaking out like that, he's among the least liked people in the world

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    Dude's a total scumbag not fit to lick the bottom of Ron Paul's shoes.

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    Ever since he's left Blackwater he's actually been decent. I think that he may have felt betrayed by some of the people at his company so he's willing to get a little revenge by cutting their government paychecks. Kind of like how Gingrich has turned against the neocons a bit once they betrayed him. I don't trust either of them but they are pretty good people to have on our side because they have cred in the minds of some.
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

    I do not suffer from Trump Rearrangement Syndrome. Sorry if that triggers you.

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    Newt Gingrich is a snake as well who should be within the same penitentiary as Prince.

    This conversation would be laughable if it wasn't so unfunny.

    I don't give a damn if Prince turns into a priest, he should face trial for overseeing an organization that committed a litany of crimes in Iraq as well as here. From the torture of many, to Nisour Square, and many other murders, etc.
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump



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    And Dave Weigel is also a Ron Paul supporter yet rolls out attack articles after attack articles. If he was really a Rand Paul supporter, he should stay mum about it just on the count that people think he is a scumbag and associating scumbags with pols tend to hurt them at the polls.

    What a scumbag

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    The point is not that they aren't criminals but that we can use their voices. Former defense industry CEO speaks out and says that we are overpaying on defense? The public opinion battle is the biggest battle we are facing, mainly due to the media, so we need to use everyone we can.
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

    I do not suffer from Trump Rearrangement Syndrome. Sorry if that triggers you.

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    Bernie Madoff was a "libertarian" too. Part of the Charlatan faction of the libertarian movement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    The point is not that they aren't criminals but that we can use their voices. Former defense industry CEO speaks out and says that we are overpaying on defense? The public opinion battle is the biggest battle we are facing, mainly due to the media, so we need to use everyone we can.
    Blackwater wasn't private. He's misrepresenting the term. Associating the crimes his company committed with the term "private" is not good.
    Last edited by robert68; 10-12-2014 at 01:49 PM.

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    Oh I feel so much better the mercenaries for hire like us non-interventionists. What an Oxymoron.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    He's just a war profiteer. If he donates all the ill-gotten billions he's made as part of the MIC to helping all the Injured soldiers and civilians in the lands he helped lay to waste, I'll consider him as a good guy.

    Remember Iraq, Afghanistan, New Orleans...

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    Nobody's saying he's a good guy, but he can be useful to our cause.
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

    I do not suffer from Trump Rearrangement Syndrome. Sorry if that triggers you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    Nobody's saying he's a good guy, but he can be useful to our cause.

    His loyalty is to the highest bidder. We don't need useful idiots for the cause of Liberty.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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    Erik Prince ? The same "Erik Prince"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    Nobody's saying he's a good guy, but he can be useful to our cause.
    Not my Cause.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/from-bl...-crusade/16878

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    Last edited by pcosmar; 10-12-2014 at 07:13 PM.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    The point is not that they aren't criminals but that we can use their voices. Former defense industry CEO speaks out and says that we are overpaying on defense? The public opinion battle is the biggest battle we are facing, mainly due to the media, so we need to use everyone we can.
    Are you serious? Would you make a deal with the devil if it got your man into office?

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    As long as the devil is working for us, and we aren't working for the devil, I couldn't care less. Yeah, he was involved with some despicable things, but as long as he can be used for the greater good to help stop more horrific stuff from happening in the future, then let him be used.
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

    I do not suffer from Trump Rearrangement Syndrome. Sorry if that triggers you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomname View Post
    This is like these "bunny ranch hookers support Ron Paul" pieces... He is hurting more than helping by speaking out like that, he's among the least liked people in the world
    while I get your point, I loved having the bunny ranch on our side. not so much the murderous mercenaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by surf View Post
    while I get your point, I loved having the bunny ranch on our side. not so much the murderous mercenaries.
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    In an Ancap type society, it would still be guys like this who would run private security/paramilitary protection groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    In an Ancap type society, it would still be guys like this who would run private security/paramilitary protection groups.
    How's that?



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    Quote Originally Posted by TaftFan View Post
    This article is almost a year old...but very much worth reading.

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/26/bl...re-the-future/

    Among the things he says:
    -Government spending is our greatest threat - unless it's on his company's services
    -Private armies are the future - his company
    -He was targeted by the IRS - fat chance
    -He is a libertarian Ron Paul supporter and believer in Austrian economics - ok good for him
    -He agrees with Rand Paul's concern over droning Americans - drones are bad for his business
    -Talks about how using drones creates terrorists - better to use his mercenaries to create them....or impersonate them....for a few hundred thousand $ per year, per person
    -He would make the State Department a lot smaller -and make the CIA a lot bigger, necessitating more of his employees
    -He favors letters of marque and reprisal to go after terrorists, not mass invasions - good for business

    This guy needs to be on Team Rand 2016.
    Some of it I can agree with in principle but I don't for a moment believe Prince wants less intervention and sound money. He wants more intervention that he can profit from.
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    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by green73 View Post
    How's that?
    If you don't like his mercenary army, you can hire mine.
    Out of every one hundred men they send us, ten should not even be here. Eighty will do nothing but serve as targets for the enemy. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, upon them depends our success in battle. But one, ah the one, he is a real warrior, and he will bring the others back from battle alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pericles View Post
    If you don't like his mercenary army, you can hire mine.
    Would your mercenary army be funded through the involuntary taking from all and unaccountable to any semblance of law?

    That would probably be the biggest factor to those advocating ancap philosophy.... that is, that the protection of the state exacerbates social ills.
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    In an Ancap type society, it would still be guys like this who would run private security/paramilitary protection groups.
    Somebody should tell that to Dale Brown. He doesn't seem to have gotten the memo ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    And Dave Weigel is also a Ron Paul supporter
    Was, maybe; Weigel voted for Jon Huntsman in 2012. Huntsman was the biggest joke of a GOP presidential candidate, and that says a lot considering people like Santorum, Gingrich and Cain ran in the same primary.

    (And Bachmann, 'oops' Perry and McCotter...damn, what a circus sideshow that presidential primary campaign was.)
    Last edited by RonPaulFanInGA; 10-19-2014 at 03:02 PM.

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