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    Huckabee threatens to leave GOP over gay marriage

    Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee isn’t too happy with the GOP — so unhappy that he just may leave his party.

    "[I]f the Republicans wanna lose guys like me, and a whole bunch of still God-fearing Bible-believing people, go ahead and just abdicate on this issue, and go ahead and say abortion doesn't matter either," he said in an interview with the American Family Association’s radio show Tuesday morning.

    The one-time presidential hopeful said he was “utterly exasperated” with Republicans for not standing up to the Supreme Court’s decision Monday that paved the way for new states to offer same-sex marriage.

    "I'll become an independent, I'll start finding people that have guts to stand. I'm tired of this,” Huckabee threatened. Huckabee also guaranteed the Republican Party would continue to lose people like him if it did not change its actions toward same-sex marriage.

    Thirty states plus the District of Columbia can now issue marriage licenses for same-sex couples
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/huckab...rticle/2554606



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    Huckabee threatens to leave GOP over gay marriage

    Buh-bye!
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    Hmm, maybe we will see a split of the Republican party. If the Christian right left the party we'd be left with a much more 'libertarian' GOP. There wouldn't really be a need for the Libertarian party anymore.

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    He is sizing up his support.

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    Does this mean Huck won't be campaigning for or endorsing any Republicans? He'll get a free pass on this but imagine if Rand also said he was "exasperated" and thinking of going independent. Rand would be excoriated from all directions.
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    Well that is one step in the right direction. At least then we can get back to fighting the Rockefeller Repubs along with the Neo-cons. Less of the theocrats the better (here I am pretty much in agreement with Goldwater on that issue).
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    Huckabee threatens to leave GOP over gay marriage

    Sucks for him...
    who are they making him marry?
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    "The one-time presidential hopeful said he was “utterly exasperated” with Republicans for not standing up to the Supreme Court’s decision Monday that paved the way for new states to offer same-sex marriage."

    You mean fighting a battle that they're increasingly not going to win if they keep talking about sanctity of marriage, being painted as intolerant and on the wrong side of history? That kind of standing up? Good luck.

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    Please let this happen. If Huck and his army leave, the GOP will be some much more attractive to a much larger group of voters. Huck and his ilk are the Achilles heel of the GOP. Just image if the GOP stood for freedom instead of force and statism according to his version of Christianity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austrian Econ Disciple View Post
    Well that is one step in the right direction. At least then we can get back to fighting the Rockefeller Repubs along with the Neo-cons. Less of the theocrats the better (here I am pretty much in agreement with Goldwater on that issue).
    Don't insult actual theocrats by comparing them with neoconservative hacks like Huckabee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uriah View Post
    Hmm, maybe we will see a split of the Republican party. If the Christian right left the party we'd be left with a much more 'libertarian' GOP. There wouldn't really be a need for the Libertarian party anymore.
    That's ridiculous. The Christian right are the libertarians greatest allies in the party, and they are much more libertarian than the typical moderate Republican. It's them and us against the big-government neocon establishment. If they leave the party, we should join them. And we should make sure that we have more of a voice in the phoenix that rises out of the ashes than Huckabee does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    That's ridiculous. The Christian right are the libertarians greatest allies in the party, and they are much more libertarian than the typical moderate Republican. It's them and us against the big-government neocon establishment. If they leave the party, we should join them. And we should make sure that we have more of a voice in the phoenix that rises out of the ashes than Huckabee does.
    Generally when I hear "theocrat" I think of the theonomists, who are indeed far more libertarian than the average Republican. Its not even close, really. Of course, there aren't really that many of them.

    The paleocons are also a lot more libertarain than the average Republican.

    But the average in the "Religious right" is a warmongering federal drug warrior these days, I don't think most of them support that much liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFanatic View Post
    Generally when I hear "theocrat" I think of the theonomists, who are indeed far more libertarian than the average Republican. Its not even close, really. Of course, there aren't really that many of them.

    The paleocons are also a lot more libertarain than the average Republican.

    But the average in the "Religious right" is a warmongering federal drug warrior these days, I don't think most of them support that much liberty.
    The moderate GOP establishment is definitely hell bent on being war mongering drug warriors. But I don't see either of those issues as being among the ones the Christian right defines itself with. Of all the candidates in 2008, Huckabee was probably less of both of those things than any of the more socially moderate establishment guys. Pat Robertson is for legalizing marijuana. So are Pat Buchanan and Tom Tancredo. The biggest drug warriors are the neocons, the same Giuliani types that the Christian right wants to distance itself from that we also want to.

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    Since we all know that TAX HIKE MIKE Huckabee is FOR SALE...


    I say he goes Independent to split the conservative vote, so the Marxist can have their Radical Progressive Hillery in office... her husband won with only 40% of the voters.
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    Here's to hoping that the frustration of guys like Huckabee will turn into a general frustration with The State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    The moderate GOP establishment is definitely hell bent on being war mongering drug warriors. But I don't see either of those issues as being among the ones the Christian right defines itself with. Of all the candidates in 2008, Huckabee was probably less of both of those things than any of the more socially moderate establishment guys. Pat Robertson is for legalizing marijuana. So are Pat Buchanan and Tom Tancredo. The biggest drug warriors are the neocons, the same Giuliani types that the Christian right wants to distance itself from that we also want to.
    Have you forgotten what a violent war monger Huckabee is? He wants more war against more Muslims and is a full blown interventionist.
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    Mike Huckabee is a violent dip$#@!...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Have you forgotten what a violent war monger Huckabee is? He wants more war against more Muslims and is a full blown interventionist.
    Its too bad we banned the guy on rpfs exposing that all the biggest war mongers in D.C. are closet homosexuals. I wonder how many times Huckabee met privately with the RNC chairman during the bush years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    Have you forgotten what a violent war monger Huckabee is? He wants more war against more Muslims and is a full blown interventionist.
    No I haven't. I'm no fan of his. But looking at the groups that make up the Republican coalition as a whole, I see the Christian Right as the one we most need on our side and the one that's closest to us ideologically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uriah View Post
    Hmm, maybe we will see a split of the Republican party. If the Christian right left the party we'd be left with a much more 'libertarian' GOP. There wouldn't really be a need for the Libertarian party anymore.
    I think you mean there wouldn't be a need for the GOP anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uriah View Post
    Hmm, maybe we will see a split of the Republican party. If the Christian right left the party we'd be left with a much more 'libertarian' GOP. There wouldn't really be a need for the Libertarian party anymore.
    This is discussed at length and indepth here... it's really quite worth the listen:
    http://www.cato.org/events/republica...ll-freedom-win
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    I wish the liberty movement had the ability to co-opt the gay marriage movement and twist it into a "get government out of marriage" campaign. The political power that they have could be used for good instead of more government intrusion.
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    Makes me want to dress up in drag, look him up and personally thank him for the GOP embracing the ***** community while hitting on him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZENemy View Post
    I wish the liberty movement had the ability to co-opt the gay marriage movement and twist it into a "get government out of marriage" campaign. The political power that they have could be used for good instead of more government intrusion.
    The anti-gay marriage people will eventually join us in this. But that won't happen until they've already lost and gay marriage becomes entrenched as the law of the land. And when that happens it will be too late to get rid of it.
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    Well, at least Gay people aren't having abortions Mike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIDEODROME View Post
    Well, at least Gay people aren't having abortions Mike.

    Good point. Huckabee join the Log Cabin Republicans.
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    Good, we need to start separating from the neocon wing. There are plenty of people who lean slightly to the left that are so turned off by these socially conservative yet liberal with the use of military goons that voting republican is still not an option. We really need a 3rd party but this would be the next best thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    Good, we need to start separating from the neocon wing. There are plenty of people who lean slightly to the left that are so turned off by these socially conservative yet liberal with the use of military goons that voting republican is still not an option. We really need a 3rd party but this would be the next best thing.
    The neocon wing is socially liberal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    The neocon wing is socially liberal.
    You must have a different brand of neocons where you live. Here, most of the neocon faction are also Pharicons.

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