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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    So you support all Palestinian Christians' right of return to their homes or only non-radicalized christian home owners can return? Does Israel allow them to return or not?

    Do you put same "radical" litmus test to allow jews/muslims who want to come to Israel to claim their lost homes or they are exempt from this test?

    About what %age of Israeli settler jews are radicalized based on your vast statistical knowledge on the subject?





    So you are saying P F L P hicjacking terror invention above was to bring Israel under sharia law and GH lied when he claimed the reason as his home overrun by Israeli zionists? Do you have any evidence for such a claim?

    You never answered earlier questions, why Israel created Hamas?
    Why Israel launched Lavon affair false flag terror attacks aganst US/British buildings to blame it on "Islamist arabs"?
    Yes, obviously there are Christians who hate Israel. I'm not denying this. I'm saying Israel would still be dealing with the same threat. Thirty to forty yrs ago, the Arab world was all about Arab nationalism, and that meant being inclusive to Christins, it was kindof leftism for the Middle East, secular-ish. But since then Arab world got into Islamism/political Islam, go back to Sharia law cuz everything used to be amazing. Hamas is all about Sharia law, so is al-Qaeda, the PA and Palestinians in general, and its not an Israeli thing, the entire Arab world went through this period. Lol now its over with the Arab spring, but its still about Islam. (Btw, al-Qaeda being political doesn't mean its not religious. They do seek to impose Sharia law. This is their agenda.)

    You're right, Israel should let Christians return, so long as there's no criminal/terrorist history. But then, what about the nearly 1 million Jews kicked out by Arab nations? Give a $#@! about them?



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  3. #32
    Lol, why do people still keep responding to this NWO troll guy?

    I do have to say though, that Pew poll is very interesting and cold, hard evidence of the correlation between the US or Israel turning a place into Hell, and more radical religious beliefs. Who would've ever thought?

    The three countries which have the highest support for sharia law are Afghanistan (99%), Iraq (91%) and Palestine (89%).
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    They better watch their backs now.
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  6. #34
    What are the minimal requirements for being recognized as a "major European country"? Apart from being a country and being in Europe, that is. So I guess the SWAQ really is, what constitutes 'major'? Top 10, 20? Hmmm.

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    Lol, why do people still keep responding to this NWO troll guy?

    I do have to say though, that Pew poll is very interesting and cold, hard evidence of the correlation between the US or Israel turning a place into Hell, and more radical religious beliefs. Who would've ever thought?

    The three countries which have the highest support for sharia law are Afghanistan (99%), Iraq (91%) and Palestine (89%).
    Oh of course, because Mohammed, the prophet Himself, murdered and raped dozens of little girls in order to subjugate half a continent under a violent and crazy religion... because of Israel. All those polling questions where Muslims and half the Arab world still go along with Mohammed'a Crazy Quran teachings? They're all crazy Muslims because of Israel. Yep, its a pure coincidence that they're doing exactly what Mohammed tells them to do, and its totally irrelevant that Muslims have been slaughtering each other since the day Mohammed left them leaderless.

    Yep, Islamic fundamentalism started when Israel arrived. That's why Ottoman Muslims threw rock at Jews, that's why the Ottomans built the al-Aqsa mosque right on top of the Jewish Temple Mount, cuz of Israel centuries later. That's why Muslims charged infidel taxes, that's why Muslims kill apostates, they execute ppl for leaving Islam because of Israel.

    Obviously, we can't hold Muslims to the standards of civilized human beings. It must be Israel's fault if Muslims keep acting like Muslims have always acted.
    Last edited by maybemaybenot; 10-06-2014 at 08:54 AM.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by maybemaybenot View Post
    Hey look, if only a small percentage of the Christians are radical/bigoted (whereas Palestinian Muslims are just plain bigoted, 90% believe in Sharia law over any Muslim, and 66% believe in executing ppl for leaving the faith, and this is not a post-1947 thing), then I wouldn't have an issue with Christians returning, sure.

    But no, I don't see how it would reduce terrorism, because the whole f'n war is about putting Israel back under Sharia law. More non-Muslims in Israel pushes Muslims away from their goal of putting Israel back under Muslim control/Sharia law. A major reason they want the right of return (and its enough of a reason on its own) is to get a majority of Israel, then they can continue on their stated religious goal of putting everything back under Sharia law. Christians returning doesn't accomplish this.

    Notice how Muslim terrorists disproportionately outweigh Christian terrorists, including Palestinians? Notice how the PLO/Hamas charters are all about Islam and Sharia law. Notice how not a single Arab Jew has hijacked a plane, even though nearly a million were kicked out of the Arab nations at the same time, more than the amount of displaced Muslims?
    Notice how the troll cites polls, but butchers the question polled to the point you have no idea what who is supporting--and provides no links? Notice how hard the troll works to convince us that 'Muslim control' and 'Sharia Law' are exactly the same thing, even though they obviously aren't?

    Notice how he emphasizes that more 'Arab Jews' were displaced, and doesn't mention that this was many tiny outrages from dozens of countries, not just one major outrage perpetrated by one batch of major criminals--and pretends they're somehow superior to others because they just emigrated to their new, artificially-created haven rather than trying to find Muslim-owned jets to hijack?
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    The population of Sweden is 9,119,423 people.

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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    When Jesus first spoke truth to the power, he had only a handful supporters.
    Today, his followers are the largest faithfuls group in the world.
    So do we need to give them a couple of thousand more years?

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Notice how the troll cites polls, but butchers the question polled to the point you have no idea what who is supporting--and provides no links? Notice how hard the troll works to convince us that 'Muslim control' and 'Sharia Law' are exactly the same thing, even though they obviously aren't?

    Notice how he emphasizes that more 'Arab Jews' were displaced, and doesn't mention that this was many tiny outrages from dozens of countries, not just one major outrage perpetrated by one batch of major criminals--and pretends they're somehow superior to others because they just emigrated to their new, artificially-created haven rather than trying to find Muslim-owned jets to hijack?
    The troll hasn't made one cohesive, logical argument yet. It's all false equivalencies and straw men.

    This describes his posts to a T.
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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Notice how the troll cites polls, but butchers the question polled to the point you have no idea what who is supporting--and provides no links? Notice how hard the troll works to convince us that 'Muslim control' and 'Sharia Law' are exactly the same thing, even though they obviously aren't?

    Notice how he emphasizes that more 'Arab Jews' were displaced, and doesn't mention that this was many tiny outrages from dozens of countries, not just one major outrage perpetrated by one batch of major criminals--and pretends they're somehow superior to others because they just emigrated to their new, artificially-created haven rather than trying to find Muslim-owned jets to hijack?
    How did I butcher the poll question?

    Lol I didn't mislead anyone by saying the Arabs kicked out more Jews. I precisely described what happened.

    There's your poll link: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/t...-about-sharia/
    Last edited by maybemaybenot; 10-06-2014 at 05:00 PM.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    The troll hasn't made one cohesive, logical argument yet. It's all false equivalencies and straw men.

    This describes his posts to a T.
    Name one straw man argument. And I've never drawn an equivalency between Israel and Palestine. Israel is a democratic country with the right to exist. Palestine is a totalitarian $#@!hole with a right to exist, but with a total inability to acy like civilized human beings, hence they can never seem to avoid attacking their neighbors, dooming themselves with endless war.

    Israel and Palestine are not equivalent. When you accused me of drawing equivalences, you used a strawman argument.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by maybemaybenot View Post
    Name one straw man argument.
    Quote Originally Posted by maybemaybenot View Post
    Yes, obviously there are Christians who hate Israel.
    The question was whether Christians had a right of return to their lands.
    Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit
    So you support all Palestinian Christians' right of return to their homes or only non-radicalized christian home owners can return? Does Israel allow them to return or not?
    You created another argument rather than answering the question.

    Zionism is a scourge on the earth,, and a curse on the People of Israel who that country dishonors by it's very existence.

    It is fundamentally no different than German Nazism,,

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    The Zionists wish to declare "Jews" a distinct ethnicity - and to marshal "Jews" together into a unified political force, in an ethnically and religiously homogenized homeland.
    This too is plain fact.

    Zionism did come first, however, and Nazism was partly an emulation of it and partly a "pre-emptive" response against it.

    Under Zionism (or Nazism,) a state would be "redeemed" through violent purification, and new Jewish-only (or German-only) "settlements" would be created through ethnic-cleansing - in Palestine and all the way to the Tigris-Euphrates (or Poland and all the way to the Ural Mountains).

    The new state would be a highly egalitarian, worker-friendly, or "socialist" democracy, but it would reject the internationalism that is normally essential to socialist doctrine: the blessings of socialism and democracy would be neatly reserved for one distinct ethnicity, in an officially ethnic-supremacist land, wherein the special ethnic rights of the favored nationality would supercede the human rights of less favored groups.

    The new state would be a democratic "National Socialism."

    The national socialism, which was and remains the Zionist goal, is fundamentally identical to the national socialism we know as Nazism. Zionism is Jewish national socialism, just as Nazism was German national socialism.
    I am not antisemitic. I am not anti-Jew.
    I am unapologetically anti-Zionist.


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  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    The question was whether Christians had a right of return to their lands.


    You created another argument rather than answering the question.

    Zionism is a scourge on the earth,, and a curse on the People of Israel who that country dishonors by it's very existence.

    It is fundamentally no different than German Nazism,,

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b6e_1337793030



    I am not antisemitic. I am not anti-Jew.
    I am unapologetically anti-Zionist.


    I did answer his question, and say Israel should allow the Christians should return:

    Quote Originally Posted by maybemaybenot View Post
    You're right, Israel should let Christians return, so long as there's no criminal/terrorist history. But then, what about the nearly 1 million Jews kicked out by Arab nations? Give a $#@! about them?
    I'm anti-Zionist too, and I've said it repeatedly (I think it said it in my first post on this forum lol), but you all pretend Islamism is better. You all ask Jews to be treated like second-class citizens in Palestine. No. That's not happening.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by maybemaybenot View Post
    I did answer his question, and say Israel should allow the Christians should return:



    I'm anti-Zionist too, and I've said it repeatedly (I think it said it in my first post on this forum lol), but you all pretend Islamism is better. You all ask Jews to be treated like second-class citizens in Palestine. No. That's not happening.
    Really we ALL said that huh? Please point where someone said that besides in your fragile little mind where you make Israel the victim of everything? Omg poooor ISRAEL booo hooo hoo!! Remember the holocaust? Booo hooo hooo!! so sad....

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by twomp View Post
    Really we ALL said that huh? Please point where someone said that besides in your fragile little mind where you make Israel the victim of everything? Omg poooor ISRAEL booo hooo hoo!! Remember the holocaust? Booo hooo hooo!! so sad....
    Oh, so you don't say it, you just know its going to happen. 90% of Palestinian Muslims say that Muslims must be governed by Sharia law, and 44%(ish) think non-Muslims have to be under Sharia law also. So nearly half of Palestinians want Islamic law over all, nearly half want apartheid (separate legal systems). Today, Palestine executes Muslims for leaving the religion or selling land to Jews.

    You're not allowed to criticize Islam in Palestine, which means no freedom of speech. Islam will be intertwined with political dialogue, it means you can't criticize laws because the laws are interpretations of Islam.

  20. #47
    The Zionist Jews had the option of establishing a state in a less hostile place, like Africa, but they chose not too. As such, "Israel" was doomed to failure from the get-go, because not only is it surrounded by Arabs who justifiably wish to obliterate it (imagine if the Chinese came to the US and snatched Georgia), but Arab-Israelis are reproducing like jack rabbits. They will soon be the majority in Israel within another generation or so, then the entire concept of an ethnically pure "Jewish" state will go up in flames, and the Zionist will be forced to tuck tail and go back into the diaspora, where they will then be exposed to all the peoples they've spent the last century pissing off. A very gloomy future awaits theses guys.
    Last edited by DFF; 10-07-2014 at 01:21 AM.

  21. #48
    It all rigged, all the time... the financiers, banksters

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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by maybemaybenot View Post
    Oh, so you don't say it, you just know its going to happen. 90% of Palestinian Muslims say that Muslims must be governed by Sharia law, and 44%(ish) think non-Muslims have to be under Sharia law also. So nearly half of Palestinians want Islamic law over all, nearly half want apartheid (separate legal systems). Today, Palestine executes Muslims for leaving the religion or selling land to Jews.

    You're not allowed to criticize Islam in Palestine, which means no freedom of speech. Islam will be intertwined with political dialogue, it means you can't criticize laws because the laws are interpretations of Islam.
    More non-sense jibber jabber from the troll. I'm waiting for the part where you show us where "we all want jews to be treated like second-class citizens in Palestine." Where did WE ALL say that?? Oh let me guess, putting words in other peoples mouths again right? Typical Israel trolls.

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by maybemaybenot View Post
    Name one straw man argument. And I've never drawn an equivalency between Israel and Palestine. Israel is a democratic country with the right to exist. Palestine is a totalitarian $#@!hole with a right to exist, but with a total inability to acy like civilized human beings, hence they can never seem to avoid attacking their neighbors, dooming themselves with endless war.

    Israel and Palestine are not equivalent. When you accused me of drawing equivalences, you used a strawman argument.
    Your racist ranting aside,
    Israel is an ethnocracy, similar to the early United States. It has as much 'right' to exist as any occupying force. The Palestinian people have as much right to self-determination and self-governance as the Israelis. Maybe the UN can create a Palestinian state in someone else's country?
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
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  25. #51
    FWIW, when the UN asks for my opinion I'll suggest part of Jordan as a prime location for a Palestinian state.

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    Maybe the UN can create a Palestinian state in someone else's country?
    The UN?! Pardon me, but screw the UN. It has as much authority to make such decisions as the mayor of Newark NJ.

    IOW, less than zero.
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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The UN?! Pardon me, but screw the UN. It has as much authority to make such decisions as the mayor of Newark NJ.

    IOW, less than zero.
    who created Israel?
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  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The UN?! Pardon me, but screw the UN. It has as much authority to make such decisions as the mayor of Newark NJ.

    IOW, less than zero.
    You may want to consider toning that down just a bit before you talk to any of the Rothschilds.

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by maybemaybenot View Post



    I'm anti-Zionist too, and I've said it repeatedly (I think it said it in my first post on this forum lol),
    You have done nothing but defend Zionism since you started here.

    Quote Originally Posted by maybemaybenot View Post
    but you all pretend Islamism is better. You all ask Jews to be treated like second-class citizens in Palestine.
    No I haven't,, ever.

    Jews and Muslims (and Christians) lived together in Palestine for several hundreds of years.. before Zionism.
    They could live together peacefully without Zionism,, and a Zionist State.

    Jews were there before Zionism,, and lived peaceably with others until Zionists showed up (late 1800s and early 1900s)

    The problem is not the Muslims or the Jews or even the Christians.. The problem is Zionists.

    and the "State of Israel" is a Zionist State. (equate that to Nazi State)

    That is the problem.
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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by DFF View Post
    The Zionist Jews had the option of establishing a state in a less hostile place, like Africa, but they chose not too. As such, "Israel" was doomed to failure from the get-go, because not only is it surrounded by Arabs who justifiably wish to obliterate it (imagine if the Chinese came to the US and snatched Georgia), but Arab-Israelis are reproducing like jack rabbits. They will soon be the majority in Israel within another generation or so, then the entire concept of an ethnically pure "Jewish" state will go up in flames, and the Zionist will be forced to tuck tail and go back into the diaspora, where they will then be exposed to all the peoples they've spent the last century pissing off. A very gloomy future awaits theses guys.
    Like many here, you are religiously opposed to processing one simple fact: the Arabs invaded Israel BEFORE Israel kicked out a single person or stole an inch of land, and the Arabs kicked out even more Jews. So no, the Arabs do not "justifiably wish to obliterate it." Leaving sharia law is not stealing land.

    When you say Israel "snatched" land simply by declaring a democracy, you're not making a private property argument, you're making an Islamic fundamentalist argument about permanent Muslim rule. If a Muslim owns a house, and the law changes from Sharia law to Western democracy, that doesn't mean the Muslim lost his house. But according to you, if the entire Arab world flips out (for the 5,000 time) over Muslim land and Sharia law, it becomes theft.

    Because you're not a libertarian.

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    You're right, the Middle Eastern country-inventing process was "all rigged."

    So why are you singling out Israel as the illegal one?

    Quote Originally Posted by twomp View Post
    More non-sense jibber jabber from the troll. I'm waiting for the part where you show us where "we all want jews to be treated like second-class citizens in Palestine." Where did WE ALL say that?? Oh let me guess, putting words in other peoples mouths again right? Typical Israel trolls.
    Wow the ignorance here is amazing. Palestine is Sharia law. It says so in the PLO charter, the Hamas charter, and founding documents of the All-Palestine government that almost was in 1948. When you say Palestine gets all the land, you're saying Sharia law rules all the land. That's literally what it means. "Palestine" isn't just a word, it has a meaning. And its what 90 percent of Palestinian Muslims want. Its what would happen.

    So the fact that you don't use the words "sharia should rule all the land" doesn't change the fact that its your actual position. I'm sry you had no idea what you were talking about every time you said "Palestine." Now you do, and now you have even less excuses for your idiocy.

    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    Your racist ranting aside,
    Israel is an ethnocracy, similar to the early United States. It has as much 'right' to exist as any occupying force. The Palestinian people have as much right to self-determination and self-governance as the Israelis. Maybe the UN can create a Palestinian state in someone else's country?
    Wtf race ranting are you talking about. I didn't call Palestinians uncivilized because of their race. I call them that based on their actions. They vote for a terrorist group promising to kill all the Jews. They're uncivilized. I'm sorry you're too brainwashed by the left to criticize murderers with dark skin.

    And Israel and the US are both ethnocracies. Israel's only major racist policy (I'm sure there are minor ones I'm unaware of, like certain scholarships or govt studies with their hiring, w/e) is their immigration policy. But our immigration policy is racist too, we let in more Europeans to maintain the current racial composition. The difference is you can convert to Judaism (fairly easily under reform Judaism, but Israel will try to see if someone is honest I guess). You can't covert to European.

    And why are you leaving out Palestine? Palestine executes ppl for leaving Islam or selling land to Jews, they want separate legal systems for different religions (or, the other half wants Sharia law for all). So why aren't you calling them out as an ethnocracy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    FWIW, when the UN asks for my opinion I'll suggest part of Jordan as a prime location for a Palestinian state.
    But notice how Palestine isn't attacking Jordan for all eternity for "stealing" the majority of the Palestine mandate (and Jordan is the vast majority of the Palestine mandate). Because Jordan is Muslim. Israel is not. Thus every Muslim country, including Jordan, tried to destroy it, because Muslim land has to stay Muslim land forever (which for some reason is appealing to ppl who call themselves "libertarians").

    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    You have done nothing but defend Zionism since you started here.



    No I haven't,, ever.

    Jews and Muslims (and Christians) lived together in Palestine for several hundreds of years.. before Zionism.
    They could live together peacefully without Zionism,, and a Zionist State.

    Jews were there before Zionism,, and lived peaceably with others until Zionists showed up (late 1800s and early 1900s)

    The problem is not the Muslims or the Jews or even the Christians.. The problem is Zionists.

    and the "State of Israel" is a Zionist State. (equate that to Nazi State)

    That is the problem.
    Waitwaitwait. Jews lived peacefully in the Ottoman Empire? That's a joke. They had to pay an infidel tax. They could only live in certain areas. There were laws allowing ppl to throw rocks at non-Muslims. There were separate legal systems. Every single problem you have with Zionism was worse under the Ottoman Empire, and worse in Palestine right now. The difference is that Muslims don't have a word for political Islam or Islamic state (well, now with ISIS they do), because Islam is still in the totally political stage in Muslim countries (like Jews in Judea and Christianity pre-reformation).

    Seriously, name one way in which Israel actually has a worse system than Palestine. You hate Zionism? Great, now quit being a hypocrite by saying Palestine's laws are better. Seriously, what do the Zionists do that are like the Nazis, that Palestine doesn't do? You prove my pt by continuing to refrain from criticizing Palestine, and continuing to insist that Jews in Israel should be subject to Sharia law (which is what you say when you call for Palestine to get all the land, if you don't know they have Sharia law that's you being ignorant, Palestine has Sharia law whether you like it or not).

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by maybemaybenot View Post
    You're right, the Middle Eastern country-inventing process was "all rigged."

    So why are you singling out Israel as the illegal one?



    Wow the ignorance here is amazing. Palestine is Sharia law. It says so in the PLO charter, the Hamas charter, and founding documents of the All-Palestine government that almost was in 1948. When you say Palestine gets all the land, you're saying Sharia law rules all the land. That's literally what it means. "Palestine" isn't just a word, it has a meaning. And its what 90 percent of Palestinian Muslims want. Its what would happen.

    So the fact that you don't use the words "sharia should rule all the land" doesn't change the fact that its your actual position. I'm sry you had no idea what you were talking about every time you said "Palestine." Now you do, and now you have even less excuses for your idiocy.



    Wtf race ranting are you talking about. I didn't call Palestinians uncivilized because of their race. I call them that based on their actions. They vote for a terrorist group promising to kill all the Jews. They're uncivilized. I'm sorry you're too brainwashed by the left to criticize murderers with dark skin.

    And Israel and the US are both ethnocracies. Israel's only major racist policy (I'm sure there are minor ones I'm unaware of, like certain scholarships or govt studies with their hiring, w/e) is their immigration policy. But our immigration policy is racist too, we let in more Europeans to maintain the current racial composition. The difference is you can convert to Judaism (fairly easily under reform Judaism, but Israel will try to see if someone is honest I guess). You can't covert to European.

    And why are you leaving out Palestine? Palestine executes ppl for leaving Islam or selling land to Jews, they want separate legal systems for different religions (or, the other half wants Sharia law for all). So why aren't you calling them out as an ethnocracy?



    But notice how Palestine isn't attacking Jordan for all eternity for "stealing" the majority of the Palestine mandate (and Jordan is the vast majority of the Palestine mandate). Because Jordan is Muslim. Israel is not. Thus every Muslim country, including Jordan, tried to destroy it, because Muslim land has to stay Muslim land forever (which for some reason is appealing to ppl who call themselves "libertarians").



    Waitwaitwait. Jews lived peacefully in the Ottoman Empire? That's a joke. They had to pay an infidel tax. They could only live in certain areas. There were laws allowing ppl to throw rocks at non-Muslims. There were separate legal systems. Every single problem you have with Zionism was worse under the Ottoman Empire, and worse in Palestine right now. The difference is that Muslims don't have a word for political Islam or Islamic state (well, now with ISIS they do), because Islam is still in the totally political stage in Muslim countries (like Jews in Judea and Christianity pre-reformation).

    Seriously, name one way in which Israel actually has a worse system than Palestine. You hate Zionism? Great, now quit being a hypocrite by saying Palestine's laws are better. Seriously, what do the Zionists do that are like the Nazis, that Palestine doesn't do? You prove my pt by continuing to refrain from criticizing Palestine, and continuing to insist that Jews in Israel should be subject to Sharia law (which is what you say when you call for Palestine to get all the land, if you don't know they have Sharia law that's you being ignorant, Palestine has Sharia law whether you like it or not).
    All that text and you still haven't answered the question. WHERE DID WE ALL SAY THAT? So you put words into peoples mouths, jump to conclusion Israel troll style, call names, get mad, cry then laugh but still don't answer the question. Nobody said they want Jews to live under Palestinian rule. You created it in your own mind then spit out to be fact AS USUAL. Cry baby! Poor poor israel. waah wahhhh wahhh

    Typical of you. I want Israel to stop killing children. Your response: You want all Jews to live under Sharia law. What crazy logic lol!

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by twomp View Post
    All that text and you still haven't answered the question. WHERE DID WE ALL SAY THAT? So you put words into peoples mouths, jump to conclusion Israel troll style, call names, get mad, cry then laugh but still don't answer the question. Nobody said they want Jews to live under Palestinian rule. You created it in your own mind then spit out to be fact AS USUAL. Cry baby! Poor poor israel. waah wahhhh wahhh

    Typical of you. I want Israel to stop killing children. Your response: You want all Jews to live under Sharia law. What crazy logic lol!
    Palestine = sharia law. Islam is written into it. So when you talk about Palestine, and you talk about their current laws and courts, and what a true Palestinian state would be (I mean that in a positive way)... you're talking about some fictional Palestine that doesn't have Sharia law?

    You do acknowledge Palestine has Sharia law right now. Correct? This is one of your games, like when you refuse dto admit that Hamas stored rockets in a UN school after the UN admitted it happened twice.

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