Marijuana reform initiatives on the ballot in 2014 -- Official Results Thread

[Jackie Moon]

yeah, I wouldn't put too much stock in it. SurveyUSA just did a poll a few days earlier and still found an 11 point lead.

Yeah, it's weird that they would be so far apart. Since that's the only poll that has us losing I'm hoping it was the outlier and the others are right.

This article says the polls used different wording when asking the question... and that the SurveyUSA poll was automated, while the one with us losing was done by a live questioner.

Seems like they're trying to say the KGW poll was more accurate... but it still had a 5% margin of error so it's not far from being flipped the other way and fitting in with the overall picture.

This new survey particularly differs in one important respect with a poll released earlier this week by The Oregonian and KGW: on the marijuana initiative, Measure 91.

The Oregonian/KGW poll found the measure virtually tied, with support at 44 percent and opposition at 46 percent -- which is well within the poll's margin of error of 5 percentage points.

In contrast, the poll taken for KATU found that 52 percent supported the marijuana measure and 41 percent were opposed. The two polls had some important differences.

The SurveyUSA poll was conducted using a recorded voice. Respondents answer by pushing buttons on their phone. The Oregonian/KGW poll was conducted by live questioners, a method that many survey experts think is more accurate.

In addition, the surveys used different question wording, with the Oregonian/KGW poll reciting the ballot title while SurveyUSA asked respondents if they supported a measure to legalize marijuana for adults 21 and older.

The SurveyUSA poll also had a higher percentage of younger voters included in the poll -- and it also showed strong support among voters aged 50-64 while the Oregonian/KGW poll showed that age group slightly opposed.

http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/inde...uana_john.html

BTW - If anyone is interested in looking back at the marijuana initiatives from 2012, how they polled leading up to election day and what the final results were, here is the thread:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...Results-Thread


Oregon is the only state that was also on the ballot in 2012, legalization was on the ballot then as it is now. The initiative lost by 6.4% as pretty much predicted by the polls.

Pollster	Subject Polled	Support	Oppose	Lead	Date
The Oregonian / Elway Research	Measure 80	42	49	-7	10/25 - 10/28
KATU / SurveyUSA	Measure 80	36	43	-7	10/16 - 10/18
KATU / SurveyUSA	Measure 80	37	41	-4	9/10 - 9/13
Public Policy Polling	legalizing marijuana	43	46	-3	6/21 - 6/24

RESULT: FAILED

100% reporting

YES	810,538	46.8%
NO	923,071	53.2%

Nice. That makes me feel slightly more confident. Last time the undecideds split 50/50... and this time the "no" side needs all the late undecideds to go their way.

Still, I expect it will be close and honestly wouldn't be surprised either way. Gonna be an interesting night.

[jct74]

bump.

results will be posted in this thread.

[jct74]

Two new polls in Florida over the weekend show the initiative is going to have a hard time passing, not looking too good there but it will probably be close.

Pollster	Subject Polled	Support	Oppose	+/-	Date
St. Pete Polls	Amendment 2	53	43	+10	11/2
Public Policy Polling	Amendment 2	53	41	+12	11/1-11/2
UF Graham Center	Amendment 2	46	43	+3	10/24-10/28
Anzalone Liszt Grove Research	Amendment 2	62	35	+27	10/22-10/27
Gravis Marketing	Amendment 2	50	42	+8	10/22-10/24
Survey USA	Amendment 2	52	36	+16	10/10-10/13
Gravis Marketing	Amendment 2	55	39	+16	10/11-10/12
UF Graham Center	Amendment 2	48	44	+4	10/7-10/12
St. Pete Polls	Amendment 2	52	39	+13	10/8-10/11
Survey USA	Amendment 2	53	32	+21	9/19-9/22
Survey USA	Amendment 2	56	31	+25	9/12-9/15
Public Policy Polling	Amendment 2	61	33	+28	9/4-9/7
UF Graham Center	Amendment 2	57	24	+33	8/27-8/31
Gravis Marketing	Amendment 2	64	26	+38	8/14-8/24
Public Policy Polling	Amendment 2	66	25	+31	6/6-6/9
Public Policy Polling	medical marijuana	65	23	+32	1/16-1/21

Note: A 60% level of support is required for this initiative to pass.

[coastie]

Two new polls in Florida over the weekend show the initiative is going to have a hard time passing, not looking too good there but it will probably be close.

Pollster	Subject Polled	Support	Oppose	+/-	Date
St. Pete Polls	Amendment 2	53	43	+10	11/2
Public Policy Polling	Amendment 2	53	41	+12	11/1-11/2
UF Graham Center	Amendment 2	46	43	+3	10/24-10/28
Anzalone Liszt Grove Research	Amendment 2	62	35	+27	10/22-10/27
Gravis Marketing	Amendment 2	50	42	+8	10/22-10/24
Survey USA	Amendment 2	52	36	+16	10/10-10/13
Gravis Marketing	Amendment 2	55	39	+16	10/11-10/12
UF Graham Center	Amendment 2	48	44	+4	10/7-10/12
St. Pete Polls	Amendment 2	52	39	+13	10/8-10/11
Survey USA	Amendment 2	53	32	+21	9/19-9/22
Survey USA	Amendment 2	56	31	+25	9/12-9/15
Public Policy Polling	Amendment 2	61	33	+28	9/4-9/7
UF Graham Center	Amendment 2	57	24	+33	8/27-8/31
Gravis Marketing	Amendment 2	64	26	+38	8/14-8/24
Public Policy Polling	Amendment 2	66	25	+31	6/6-6/9
Public Policy Polling	medical marijuana	65	23	+32	1/16-1/21

Note: A 60% level of support is required for this initiative to pass.

I personally don't know of a single person here voting against it. Even fence sitters I know are now voting for it, because of the ridiculousness of the NO on 2 ads - they're straight reefer madness, and blatantly lie in them.

Not that I have much faith in the voting system anyway, but the wife and I are leaving right now to go vote, YES of course. Also throwing ours to Adrian Wylie...now if that guy doesn't get significant numbers here, the game is rigged for sure.

[jct74]

Florida medical marijuana (60% needed to pass)

Yes 56.9%
No 43.1%

10% Reporting

http://www.politico.com/2014-electio.../#.VFlz_zTF_To

[Jackie Moon]

Florida medical marijuana (60% needed to pass)

Yes 56.9%
No 43.1%

10% Reporting

http://www.politico.com/2014-electio.../#.VFlz_zTF_To

Yes 57.0% - 2,912,314
No 43.0% - 2,194,761

70.6% Reporting

Wow, it's close.

I have no idea about the makeup of Florida... but from looking at the map it looks like some of the big counties that lean heavier to "yes" are still less than 20% reporting - so that's a good sign.

http://www.politico.com/2014-electio...sures/florida/

[Ranger29860]

Yes 57.0% - 2,912,314
No 43.0% - 2,194,761

70.6% Reporting

Wow, it's close.

I have no idea about the makeup of Florida... but from looking at the map it looks like some of the big counties that lean heavier to "yes" are still less than 20% reporting - so that's a good sign.

http://www.politico.com/2014-electio...sures/florida/

Well way to go Florida . Sheldon Adelson needs to stay the hell out of our business. Ridiculous that so much money came from out of state to fund the no on amendment 2 campaign. The adds were such blatant lies.

[jct74]

D.C. weed legalization - looking good!

For 68.8%
Against 31.2%

6.3% Reporting

http://www.politico.com/2014-electio.../#.VFmSZDTF_Tp

[Wooden Indian]

Well, thanks Florida. You prove yet again that you are a grab-bag mix of all the worst from the north and the south. Hard to accomplish such a feat.

[jct74]

Oregon marijuana legalization

Yes 61.0%
No 39.0%

17.4% Reporting

http://www.politico.com/2014-electio.../#.VFmlcTTF_Tq

[jct74]

Oregon marijuana legalization

Yes 57.2%
No 42.8%

28.1% Reporting

http://www.politico.com/2014-electio.../#.VFmmXTTF_Tr

[Jackie Moon]

Oregon marijuana legalization

Yes 57.2%
No 42.8%

28.1% Reporting

http://www.politico.com/2014-electio.../#.VFmmXTTF_Tr

The Oregonian is projecting a win. Not gonna celebrate yet... but its looking like it's a lock.


Updated: 8:26 pm, Nov 4
52.4% of est. votes counted

Yes 425,867 55.7%

No 339,310 44.3%

http://gov.oregonlive.com/election/

[Mani]

Well, thanks Florida. You prove yet again that you are a grab-bag mix of all the worst from the north and the south. Hard to accomplish such a feat.

Florida is a $#@! hole. People really don't care about freedom. Stupid $#@!s. I lived there for 10+ years. Full of $#@!ing idiots. The freedom lovers are always a minority vote.

[mad cow]

The Oregonian is projecting a win. Not gonna celebrate yet... but its looking like it's a lock.


Updated: 8:26 pm, Nov 4
52.4% of est. votes counted

Yes 425,867 55.7%

No 339,310 44.3%

http://gov.oregonlive.com/election/

Excellent!

[Brett85]

The medical marijuana initiative in Florida did better than the polls were saying it would do.

[Mani]

here is some of the boogity-boogity evil weed propaganda hitting the airwaves in Florida (thanks to Sheldon Adelson)

Why is there a cop talking $#@! against Medical MJ??? Don't cops always say, "Hey I don't make the laws, I just enforce them. I'm just doing my job. If you don't like the law, change it!"


So if that's their mantra, WTF is this guy doing scaring the $#@! out of people from changing the law???


Piece of $#@! FLORIDA.

[Jackie Moon]

Oregon
Updated: 8:57 pm, Nov 4
65.2% of est. votes counted

Yes 510,674 53.7%

No 440,584 46.3%

Ok, it's still close overall - but most of the votes left to count are here in Multnomah County where Portland is... and as expected "Yes" is dominating:


Multnomah County
Recreational marijuana

47.5% Reporting

Yes 69.0% 101,138

No 31.0% 45,337

[COpatriot]

Good for Oregon. It's only a matter of time. State by state it's coming.

[Mani]

Good for Oregon. It's only a matter of time. State by state it's coming.

This is awesome. It especially makes me laugh because there was an article not too long ago about Cops in Oregon pulling over any WA plates to search them for MJ. Instead of SPEED traps, they were basically MJ traps. Bastards.


But now that revenue stream is closing, and they won't be able to pull over random drivers with WA plates anymore for probably cause of drugs.


BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Fail. Lost revenue for those $#@!ers.



War on Drugs fail.

[dannno]

California should start a Marijuana Legalization Equal Tax Act where regular old sales tax applies and there are no other restrictions besides 18 age limit. It would be realistic and supportable.

It's already very available and largely unenforced.

The only thing that sucks is that Federal 280E anti-tax loop thing we all just learned about...nullify?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...highlight=280E

[Mani]

Oregon has legalized.


DC looks to be winning...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_5947520.html

In yet another blow to the United States' decades-long war on drugs, the nation's capital has legalized recreational marijuana, NPR and USA Today reported Tuesday night.

Washington, D.C., voters on Tuesday approved Initiative 71, which legalizes adult marijuana use, possession of up to two ounces and home cultivation of up to six marijuana plants for personal use. With 29 percent of votes in, 68 percent of District residents supported the measure, and 31 percent were opposed.


(snip)

Now that voters have approved the measure, the bill moves to Congress for a mandatory review period by lawmakers in January. Congress has 60 days to review all new laws in the District, and if there is no interference the measure could go into effect in early 2015. However, Rep. Andy Harris (R-Md.) has vowed to put a stop to the progression of the bill in Congress.

(what's your problem andy???)
(rest at the link)


Alaska is early but showing good results:

http://www.inquisitr.com/1586352/ala...ction-results/

[Update: Only 23 percent of precincts in Alaska have checked in, but so far 54 percent of voters have voted in favor of passing Measure 2.]

[tangent4ronpaul]

Sheldon Adelson Donates Another $1.5 Million to Anti-Medical Marijuana Group

By Chris Joseph
Fri., Oct. 3 2014 at 1:05 PM

With a net worth of $37 billion, casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, has donated another $1.5 million to the No On 2 campaign (or, Drug Free Florida) -- the biggest medical marijuana opposition in the state.

He had helped kick off the campaign when he donated $2.5 million to get things started back in June.

The 80-year-old Adelson, who has been a big-time contributor to conservative campaigns throughout his life, is chairman and chief executive officer of the Las Vegas Sands Corp., which runs the Venetian Resort Hotel Casino and the Sands Expo and Convention Center in Las Vegas.

He has also funded drug addiction clinics in Nevada and Israel and believes pot to be a gateway drug.

The big donation comes right after No On 2's recent ad attacking medical marijuana legalization by claiming that Amendment 2 has a loop hole in it's care giver provision that would allow anyone -- including felons and drug dealers -- to become caregivers:

[COpatriot]

Early lead for "yes" in Alaska.

[tangent4ronpaul]

Oregon has legalized.


DC looks to be winning...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_5947520.html

In yet another blow to the United States' decades-long war on drugs, the nation's capital has legalized recreational marijuana, NPR and USA Today reported Tuesday night.

Washington, D.C., voters on Tuesday approved Initiative 71, which legalizes adult marijuana use, possession of up to two ounces and home cultivation of up to six marijuana plants for personal use. With 29 percent of votes in, 68 percent of District residents supported the measure, and 31 percent were opposed.


(snip)

Now that voters have approved the measure, the bill moves to Congress for a mandatory review period by lawmakers in January. Congress has 60 days to review all new laws in the District, and if there is no interference the measure could go into effect in early 2015. However, Rep. Andy Harris (R-Md.) has vowed to put a stop to the progression of the bill in Congress.

(what's your problem andy???)
(rest at the link)


Alaska is early but showing good results:

http://www.inquisitr.com/1586352/ala...ction-results/

[Update: Only 23 percent of precincts in Alaska have checked in, but so far 54 percent of voters have voted in favor of passing Measure 2.]

Andy Harris re-elected in landslide
http://www.delmarvanow.com/story/new...tion/18504763/

$#@!!

[Mani]

Why do conservatives hate freedom so much?

Every R is out there saying, "Boogedity Boogedity Marijuana!!!" Make it all illegal!!!!!!!!!



And why do liberals that want freedom so badly want the state to control all their freedoms for them?

[COpatriot]

Why do conservatives hate freedom so much?

Every R is out there saying, "Boogedity Boogedity Marijuana!!!" Make it all illegal!!!!!!!!!



And why do liberals that want freedom so badly want the state to control all their freedoms for them?

Because they both believe in freedom right up until it involves something/someone they don't like.

[Jackie Moon]

Measure 91
Marijuana legalization

Updated: 12:14 am, Nov 5
75.2% of est. votes counted

Yes 595,750 54.3%
No 502,202 45.7%



OK, feel safe now that I can celebrate and not jinx it.









Pretty sure this is the first local candidate/measure that actually went the way I wanted.

I don't even personally smoke so this won't directly affect me, but it's obviously a great win for personal liberty and against the war on drugs.

Since I don't smoke I'm gonna drink this tasty celebratory brew I just picked up and toast to Sheldon Adelson.



Sucks that Florida needed 60% to pass... but it's clear that it will happen soon.

Now... come on Alaska!

Recreational marijuana
73.7% Reporting

Yes 52.1% 99,860
No 47.9% 91,790

[jct74]

summary of results last night:



Alaska Measure 2 (marijuana legalization)

Result: PASSED!

100% reporting

YES	52.1%	116,803
NO	47.9%	107,179

--


Oregon Measure 91 (marijuana legalization)

Result: PASSED!

93.8% reporting

YES	55.3%	757,019
NO	44.7%	611,557

--


Washington D.C. Initiative 71 (marijuana legalization)

Result: PASSED!

100% reporting

YES	69.4%	96,113
NO	30.6%	42,280

--


Florida Question 2 (medical marijuana)

Result: FAILED

100% reporting

YES	57.6%	3,363,522
NO	42.4%	2,476,108

A 60% level of support was required to pass.

[surf]

I still think Cascadia should secede (even with the uber-socialistic mindset, we'd probably do ok due to the peace preference). we'll take a bit of northern California (Lk. Shasta) and allow AK to join (Hawaii as well). the biggest question is whether or not we'll qualify for the 2018 World Cup....

good on Oregon, the 2015 MLS Cannabis Cup (DC, Colorado, Portland, Seattle) will be exciting.

[jct74]

I would have been very happy with just Oregon and Washington D.C. legalizing marijuana based on the polls leading up to election day but to have Alaska come out on top was a big surprise and totally $#@!ing awesome. Statewide marijuana legalization initiatives are now 5 for 6 in the last 2 elections and the only one that failed was Oregon in 2012 which then passed in 2014 by a double digit margin. Even in Florida where medical marijuana lost you can't really say the voters rejected it when 57% of the people voted for it. 2016 is going to be very exciting as these initiatives typically do better in presidential election years, it could be a tidal wave year for marijuana reform at the ballot box.