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  1. #1171
    Quote Originally Posted by S.Shorland View Post
    Indeed. Oh.

    What will they eventually call this strain of Ebola? Ebola Guinea?

    A More Dangerous Strain

    The head of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota – Dr. Michael Osterholm – is a prominent public health scientist and a nationally recognized biosecurity expert.

    Dr. Osterholm just gave a talk shown on C-Span explaining that a top Ebola virologist – the Head of Special Pathogens at Canada’s health agency, Gary Kobinger – has found that the current strain of Ebola appears to be much worse than any strain seen before … and that the current virus may be more likely to spread through aerosols than strains which scientists have previously encountered.

    Another top Ebola expert – chief scientist at the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and discoverer of the Reston strain of Ebola (Dr. Peter Jahrling) – said last week that this strain of Ebola appears to be more virulent than other strains we’ve seen, producing a much higher viral load much quicker than other strains.
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    Senegal Just Eradicated Ebola. It Implemented Travel Bans Back In August

    How did Senegal manage this feat, despite being so close to Ebola hot spots like Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea? It closed off its borders to travelers from high-risk Ebola countries. According to International SOS, an international company which helps countries manage travel-related health and security risks, Senegal closed its land borders and restricted air entry back in August.
    ...
    http://thefederalist.com/2014/10/17/...ack-in-august/
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  4. #1173
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Senegal Just Eradicated Ebola. It Implemented Travel Bans Back In August
    Sorry, authorities here are just too bull headed stupid to do that
    in the America. "Tyranny at home, freedom for the inbound!"

    If they were just ignorant and not quite so arrogant, it probably
    could have been eradicated/prevented from coming here by now.

    I'm still hoping for the best outcome...

  5. #1174
    Quote Originally Posted by tangent4ronpaul View Post
    * This statement is null and void if you happen to live in Western Africa this year.
    It has a good chance of being null and void in most of the world next year.

    -t
    The 3 countries of Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone have 96% of all Ebola cases in this outbreak.
    0.046% of the population in those countries have been infected, and about 40% of those are fatal.

    I'm not saying it's not a problem, but the real tragedy will be all the people dying of malaria who we could not help/prevent because of Ebola.
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  6. #1175
    After the election is over it will be amazing how fast Ebola goes away from the news. Countries outside Africa may continue to have isolated incidents, or may completely eradicate the virus as Nigeria has done (Nigeria had 20 cases at one point and now have 0). Meanwhile West Africa may still struggle for awhile longer and it will be stunning how little everyone here will care.
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  7. #1176
    Quote Originally Posted by Crashland View Post
    After the election is over it will be amazing how fast Ebola goes away from the news. Countries outside Africa may continue to have isolated incidents, or may completely eradicate the virus as Nigeria has done (Nigeria had 20 cases at one point and now have 0). Meanwhile West Africa may still struggle for awhile longer and it will be stunning how little everyone here will care.
    Says Nigeria.



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  9. #1177
    Quote Originally Posted by navy-vet View Post
    Says Nigeria.
    Duh.
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  10. #1178
    New ebola czar, Klain, is not only a lawyer, political hack and NOT a health specialist, he's also a eugenics supporter! The man in charge of protecting Americans from a deadly disease is a person that believes there are too many people on the planet already. They're not even trying to hide the agenda anymore...



    The woman next to him is his handler.
    Last edited by devil21; 10-21-2014 at 01:45 AM.
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  11. #1179
    Joy... ^^^

  12. #1180
    Quote Originally Posted by Crashland View Post
    Duh.
    hmmm no sense of humor here....

  13. #1181
    Quote Originally Posted by Crashland View Post
    ...The real tragedy will be all the people dying of malaria who we could not help/prevent because of Ebola.
    Ebola did not ban DDT mosquito control

  14. #1182
    Quote Originally Posted by FindLiberty View Post
    Ebola did not ban DDT mosquito control
    That's a good point.

  15. #1183
    Somebody give me an update. How many Americans dead?

  16. #1184
    I'll bite...
    One back in the summer I believe...and he passed away in an African hospital if my memory serves me.
    Of course there was Mr Duncan in Texas who was the first to die here, but he wasn't a citizen, I don't think.
    4500 in Africa total I heard, and Nigeria has been declared clear.
    That's what I got anyway...



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  18. #1185
    Quote Originally Posted by green73 View Post
    Somebody give me an update. How many Americans dead?
    Just Duncan. 4555 worldwide.

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  19. #1186
    Quote Originally Posted by green73 View Post
    Somebody give me an update. How many Americans dead?
    I think there have been 8 cases on US soil.

    5 cured
    2 active
    1 dead

    Anonymous - Cured at Emory
    Kent Brantly - Cured at Emory
    Nancy Writebrol - Cured at Emory
    Rick Scara - Cured at Nebraska Medical
    Ashoka Mokpo - Cured at Nebraska Medical

    Amber Vinson - Treated at Emory
    Nina Pham - Treated at NIH Washington DC

    Eric Duncan - Died at Presbyterian Dallas

    4555 deaths worldwide.


    48 of 800 cleared from self quarantine related to Duncan
    Last edited by presence; 10-21-2014 at 01:51 AM.

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


  20. #1187
    Ebola volunteer 'doing well' with vaccine shot (one of 60 vaccine trial volunteers)
    http://www.witneygazette.co.uk/news/11547331._/

    And
    Did American Ebola field trials cause the pandemic?
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/10/p...nd-his-troops/
    Last edited by S.Shorland; 10-21-2014 at 03:45 AM.

  21. #1188
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    New ebola czar, Klain, is not only a lawyer, political hack and NOT a health specialist, he's also a eugenics supporter! The man in charge of protecting Americans from a deadly disease is a person that believes there are too many people on the planet already. They're not even trying to hide the agenda anymore...



    The woman next to him is his handler.
    It's mighty scary the hacks that are put in "charge"... I really think some homeless person would be better qualified.
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  22. #1189
    Thomas Eric Duncan wasn't an American, he was a Liberian visiting family in Dallas Texas.
    Patrick Sawyer was an American who died in Nigeria of Ebola just before his plan to come home to Minnesota.


  23. #1190
    Thanks a lot Rick for volunteering our state.






    TEXAS TO CREATE 2 UNITS TO TREAT EBOLA PATIENTS




    Updated 1 hr 13 mins ago
    DALLAS, TX -- Texas will create containment facilities in North Texas and Galveston to treat any future Ebola patients.

    Texas Gov. Rick Perry said Tuesday that facilities in Galveston and the Dallas suburb of Richardson will take in any future patients diagnosed with the disease that has killed one person at a Dallas hospital and infected two nurses who treated him.

    The Richardson unit will be hosted by Methodist Health System, which is turning over an entire hospital floor and modifying parts of the facility for decontamination and other needs.

    UT Southwestern Medical Center will provide doctors trained in infectious disease and Parkland Hospital will provide nurses and other staff. Both hospitals are in Dallas.

    The other unit will be at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston, southeast of Houston.

    http://abc13.com/health/texas-to-cre...tients/359845/
    Last edited by Carlybee; 10-21-2014 at 03:00 PM.

  24. #1191
    First Ebola case was reported in USA during indian Prime minister "Narendra Modi's visit to USA 2014.

  25. #1192
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    Thanks a lot Rick for volunteering our state.






    TEXAS TO CREATE 2 UNITS TO TREAT EBOLA PATIENTS




    Updated 1 hr 13 mins ago
    DALLAS, TX -- Texas will create containment facilities in North Texas and Galveston to treat any future Ebola patients.

    Texas Gov. Rick Perry said Tuesday that facilities in Galveston and the Dallas suburb of Richardson will take in any future patients diagnosed with the disease that has killed one person at a Dallas hospital and infected two nurses who treated him.

    The Richardson unit will be hosted by Methodist Health System, which is turning over an entire hospital floor and modifying parts of the facility for decontamination and other needs.

    UT Southwestern Medical Center will provide doctors trained in infectious disease and Parkland Hospital will provide nurses and other staff. Both hospitals are in Dallas.

    The other unit will be at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston, southeast of Houston.

    http://abc13.com/health/texas-to-cre...tients/359845/
    Not a bad idea (IMHO), to set up units like this in the private hospitals and give them what they need to take care of indigent refugees which are coming in with diseases we don't even have names for. The last gift of enterovirus from south of the border, which has been flooding us for months now, is crippling kids and inducing full blown insulin dependent diabetes in like 48% of them! That's a very serious, and costly problem, and I know things are likely going to get much worse.



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  27. #1193
    Quote Originally Posted by navy-vet View Post
    Not a bad idea (IMHO), to set up units like this in the private hospitals and give them what they need to take care of indigent refugees which are coming in with diseases we don't even have names for. The last gift of enterovirus from south of the border, which has been flooding us for months now, is crippling kids and inducing full blown insulin dependent diabetes in like 48% of them! That's a very serious, and costly problem, and I know things are likely going to get much worse.

    But are the private hospitals paying for it? I know UT will be state funded. Galveston is already a deadly disease research hospital. Personally I think every hospital should have some sort of containment unit but I don't think taxpayers should have to fund them arbitrarily.
    Last edited by Carlybee; 10-21-2014 at 05:50 PM.

  28. #1194
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    But are the private hospitals paying for it? I know UT will be state funded. Galveston is already a deadly disease research hospital. Personally I think every hospital should have some sort of containment unit but I don't think taxpayers should have to fund them arbitrarily.
    I totally agree, but if the feds aren't going to secure us from invasion and in fact are using our monies to encourage it for political reasons, then they can pay the bill by either reducing the taxation on Texas or return what they have taken. This stuff gets very costly, very quickly and requires a sophisticated array of ancillary support services that can quickly destroy a hospitals budget.

  29. #1195
    Ebola patients could get transfusions from survivors ‘within weeks’
    Work has commenced to make it possible to use blood in epidemic-hit countries, says World Health Organisation
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...urvivors-weeks

    Patients in the three west African countries devastated by Ebola may be able to get transfusions of blood from survivors within weeks, the World Health Organisation (WHO) says.

    Unprecedented efforts are under way in Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea to make experimental treatments available in an attempt to slow the escalating number of infections and save lives.

    Large-scale vaccine trials, which it is hoped might protect some of those most at risk, including health workers and burial teams, are expected to start in January.

    Blood from survivors, such as the British nurse Will Pooley, contains antibodies that could help the immune systems of people with Ebola to fight the virus.

    Dr Marie Paule Kieny, assistant director general at the WHO, said experts were working to make it possible to use blood in the epidemic-hit countries where health systems have collapsed.

    “It needs to take into consideration the safety of the donor as well as the recipient,” she said at a briefing in Geneva. “Great care must be taken to ensure blood from the transfusions is devoid of infectious agents for Ebola as well as HIV, hepatitis and other dangerous pathogens.”

    Capacity to take, test and use the blood of survivors was being set up in all three countries, but would be fastest in Liberia, she said, where she hoped it would be established in the coming weeks.

    Experimental vaccines will be introduced at the beginning of next year, she said, although in the context of large-scale clinical trials. “I’m not saying there will be mass population immunisation starting in January 2015. This is not the case,” she said. “We’re talking about tens of thousands of doses, not millions, in January.”

    Those trials will target people at high risk, probably including “healthcare workers but also burial teams or family members or contacts of known Ebola cases. There has been no decision yet taken. It is quite likely the intervention will take place in each of the three countries, so there may be a different approach in each country.”

    There are three leading candidate vaccines. One from GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) and a similar vaccine from Johnson and Johnson are in human-safety trials, which are important not just to establish that there are no serious side-effects but also to work out the optimal dose.

    GSK is manufacturing 10,000 doses of its vaccine, which is unprecedented before safety data – as is the sharing of data, which is taking place between commercial rivals. A third vaccine, from Canada, is moving into human trials and 800 vials have been shipped to Geneva for use in Africa as soon as there is data on its safety and immunogenicity – the antibody response it evokes, which is an indicator that it could be effective against the virus.

    “There haven’t been any delays. We couldn’t go any faster without really doing things dangerously,” said Dr Charles Link, CEO and chief scientific officer of NewLink Genetics, of Ames, Iowa, which has the manufacturing licence from the Canadian government, speaking in the Canadian Press. “I don’t think humanity has ever tried to do something this complex, to be quite honest,” said Link.

    The 10,000 doses of GSK’s vaccine will not be enough to immunise all frontline health workers and burial teams – that would require between 70,000 and 100,000 doses, but it is likely that the companies will try to ramp up production if the safety and immunogenicity data from trials outside of west Africa look good.

    Experts will be hoping that the antibody response in people who have been vaccinated is high enough. If not, boosters could be required, which will be highly problematic in the three countries. It would be a huge logistical challenge to recall people for a second injection in a state where much of the infrastructure has broken down and health records and names and addresses of patients were not routinely recorded, even before Ebola hit.

    Meanwhile, a senior Red Cross official has said he is confident the epidemic can be contained within four to six months by the methods that have stemmed Ebola outbreaks in the past.

    Elhadj As Sy, the secretary general of the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies, told reporters in Beijing on Wednesday that the outbreak could be contained if there was “good isolation, good treatment of the cases which are confirmed, good dignified and safe burials of deceased people”.

    -t

  30. #1196
    Ebola-free Rwanda to screen travelers from U.S.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-fr...elers-from-us/

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


  31. #1197
    322 Have Died in Five Days

    http://www.boston.com/health/2014/10/22/ebola-today-epidemic-will-take-months-contain-red-cross-official-says/22RcPTrg66HWkUDCAlXvkM/story.html


    Number of cases worldwide in the current outbreak: 9,936 (Climbed 720 in five days)
    Number of deaths: 4,877 (Climbed 322 in five days)

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


  32. #1198
    Quote Originally Posted by navy-vet View Post
    I totally agree, but if the feds aren't going to secure us from invasion and in fact are using our monies to encourage it for political reasons, then they can pay the bill by either reducing the taxation on Texas or return what they have taken. This stuff gets very costly, very quickly and requires a sophisticated array of ancillary support services that can quickly destroy a hospitals budget.
    Then again, I am all for the hospital raising donations to finance the operations, or contracting with big pharma although I shudder to think of the prospects there....anything other than seeing the doors close on your hospitals down there or Uncle Sam taking over.

  33. #1199
    Quote Originally Posted by navy-vet View Post
    Then again, I am all for the hospital raising donations to finance the operations, or contracting with big pharma although I shudder to think of the prospects there....anything other than seeing the doors close on your hospitals down there or Uncle Sam taking over.
    The doors won't close. UTMB in Galveston is owned by the University of Texas which is a very wealthy school but this Ebola wing sounds like some kind of government deal. I don't know anything about the other hospital. I'm sure they chose
    Galveston because it already has a high level bio containment facility but as far as I know that's been for research.

  34. #1200
    nurse 2 who was sent to Emory has recovered. No more Ebola found in her blood.

    -t



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