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  1. #961
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yes, I have.
    You flew 10 days ago? You think you should go get tested just to rule it out? I boost my immune system and rarely get sick, last time was almost 2 years ago (with exception of allergy stuff). But, if you've been doing that and are still really sick, then go get checked, AF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
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  3. #962
    APNewsBreak: Official being monitored for Ebola
    http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-...onitored-ebola

    Dallas County's top public health epidemiologist confirmed Thursday that she spent time at Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan's beside and that she is among those potentially exposed to the virus.

    Dr. Wendy Chung has remained on the front lines of the government's response to the outbreak since Duncan's diagnosis, working alongside federal, state and local health authorities as she undergoes monitoring for any signs of the potentially deadly disease.

    "Yes, I have been alongside other physicians and nurses in addressing this patient," said Chung in an email. "I am under the same monitoring protocols which are currently recommended for my clinical colleagues who are in the same exposure category as mine."

    Some of the health care workers being monitored are being furloughed, but others have continued to work, depending on the level of their exposure. None are allowed to use public transit.

    Until now, public statements have indicated that the only people potentially exposed were Presbyterian hospital workers, nurses and doctors, not public health officials.
    (cont)

  4. #963
    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    I used to use Zicam at the start of a cold. I used the medicated Qtips that you swab your nose with. Can't find them anymore.
    I use the chewable things..I've seen it in nose drops. Stuff always helps me..you're right though it needs to be taken in the beginning stages.

  5. #964
    I just love how there are two schools of thoughts here...

    OMFG we gonna die!

    No big deal. Overreacting.

  6. #965
    Quote Originally Posted by alucard13mm View Post
    I just love how there are two schools of thoughts here...

    OMFG we gonna die!

    No big deal. Overreacting.
    I'd rather err on the side of caution but I sure don't want martial law.

  7. #966
    Quote Originally Posted by tangent4ronpaul View Post
    APNewsBreak: Official being monitored for Ebola
    http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-...onitored-ebola

    Dallas County's top public health epidemiologist confirmed Thursday that she spent time at Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan's beside and that she is among those potentially exposed to the virus.

    Dr. Wendy Chung has remained on the front lines of the government's response to the outbreak since Duncan's diagnosis, working alongside federal, state and local health authorities as she undergoes monitoring for any signs of the potentially deadly disease.

    "Yes, I have been alongside other physicians and nurses in addressing this patient," said Chung in an email. "I am under the same monitoring protocols which are currently recommended for my clinical colleagues who are in the same exposure category as mine."

    Some of the health care workers being monitored are being furloughed, but others have continued to work, depending on the level of their exposure. None are allowed to use public transit.

    Until now, public statements have indicated that the only people potentially exposed were Presbyterian hospital workers, nurses and doctors, not public health officials.
    (cont)
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  8. #967
    Quote Originally Posted by alucard13mm View Post
    I just love how there are two schools of thoughts here...

    OMFG we gonna die!

    No big deal. Overreacting.
    My goofy sister emails or texts me 10 times a day about this $#@!. The only response I've sent, and I've sent it at least 4 times already is, "turn off your TV".

  9. #968
    'Mystery Man' At Ebola Transfer Identified as Protocol Officer

    The mystery has been solved concerning the identity of a man wearing street clothes, and not a hazmat suit, while Dallas Ebola patient Amber Vinson was being boarded onto an airplane headed for the Emory University Hospital in Atlanta Wednesday.

    The man, wearing slacks, a button-down shirt and sunglasses on the airport tarmac and holding a yellow envelope is a team medical safety coordinator for Phoenix Air, which transported Vinson, reports NBC News.

    "His role is to oversee the process of transport including on the tarmac," said Randy Davis, a vice-president for medical transport service Phoenix Air, declining to give the man's name. "Part of our protocol is to have one person not in a bio-hazard suit."
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  11. #969
    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    You flew 10 days ago? You think you should go get tested just to rule it out? I boost my immune system and rarely get sick, last time was almost 2 years ago (with exception of allergy stuff). But, if you've been doing that and are still really sick, then go get checked, AF.
    Tested for what?
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  12. #970
    Quote Originally Posted by Antischism View Post
    It's not, though. It's not a matter of semantics at all. Airborne and "droplet-borne" are entirely different things.
    Yes, I realize that there is a technical difference. Please reread the part of my post in which I clearly state that I don't give a damn. Honestly, I think it's poor judgment to not refer to Ebola as "airborne" in a non-scientific setting since most people (potential victims) aren't going to differentiate between viruses that are truly airborne or that are spread through aerosols (through the air...sometimes). Therefore, to reinforce that it isn't airborne may give people some problematic misconceptions about how the virus is spread, which is why some people have tried to downplay it like it's the next AIDS, when it clearly is not. The best English is that which is best understood by the target audience.
    Last edited by Philhelm; 10-16-2014 at 04:18 PM.
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  13. #971
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    It's not helping my mood that I flew ten ago and now am sick as hell...(with a common cold...?)
    Have ebola chicken noodle soup and man up.
    Last edited by Philhelm; 10-16-2014 at 04:35 PM.
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  14. #972
    Hrmmm, all this takes is one ebola infested drug addict prostitute, and it could wipe out half of our elected officials in an area.

    Actually, Seriously (now actually thought about), I bet it would spread rapidly if a drug addict prostitute got it, the drugs would probably keep her going well into the contagious period, and obviously sex, would lead to a very high transmission rate, and well drug addict prostitutes tend to have a lot of customers. 1 drug addict prostitute=100 cases?

    Anyway, just thinking of ways this could go exponential.

  15. #973
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Tested for what?
    Ebola. He's apparently worried about it. If I were worried, I'd go get tested to rule it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

  16. #974
    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulIsGreat View Post
    Hrmmm, all this takes is one ebola infested drug addict prostitute, and it could wipe out half of our elected officials in an area.

    Actually, Seriously (now actually thought about), I bet it would spread rapidly if a drug addict prostitute got it, the drugs would probably keep her going well into the contagious period, and obviously sex, would lead to a very high transmission rate, and well drug addict prostitutes tend to have a lot of customers. 1 drug addict prostitute=100 cases?

    Anyway, just thinking of ways this could go exponential.
    An infected patient running around a large hospital would probably be just as effective.
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  17. #975
    Quote Originally Posted by alucard13mm View Post
    I just love how there are two schools of thoughts here...

    OMFG we gonna die!

    No big deal. Overreacting.
    I think some people like to condemn those who have justifiable concern as "overreacting". I personally am a realist. Not a pessimist, not an optimist - but a realist.
    We don't need to sugar coat. We don't need to fear monger. We just need to get friggin real about it.
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  18. #976
    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    An infected patient running around a large hospital would probably be just as effective.
    Or throwing up on a plane....
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!



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  20. #977
    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    Ebola. He's apparently worried about it. If I were worried, I'd go get tested to rule it out.
    No, not really worried, it's just a head cold, no fever, I just feel lousy.

    But you can't help but have it in the back of your mind...

  21. #978
    on C-SPAN NOW - us mil response in western Africa

  22. #979
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    No, not really worried, it's just a head cold, no fever, I just feel lousy.

    But you can't help but have it in the back of your mind...
    I'm just teasing you AF. Get well soon.


  23. #980
    Quote Originally Posted by tangent4ronpaul View Post
    on C-SPAN NOW - us mil response in western Africa
    Napalm? Flamethrowers?
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  24. #981
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    I'm just teasing you AF. Get well soon.

    Ecola: a mutated version of E. coli in which the victim hemorrhages diarrhea rather than blood.
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  25. #982
    Get Dan and Johnny to put AF on the sled and drop him off out in the woods.
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  26. #983
    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    Or throwing up on a plane....
    TSA will be the first to catch it...

  27. #984
    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    Ecola: a mutated version of E. coli in which the victim hemorrhages diarrhea rather than blood.
    My Dad had a 10 day hospital stay and almost died from ecoli back during the scare with Jack in the Box, in the 90s. Almost lost him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!



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  29. #985
    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    Ebola. He's apparently worried about it. If I were worried, I'd go get tested to rule it out.
    Yeah, no need for that unless he was sitting next to that nurse that was flying around with Ebola. They wouldn't do the test for no reason.

    Enterovirus D-68 (EV-D68) is more of a concern. But he says he has a cold, so no worries there.
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  30. #986
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Yeah, no need for that unless he was sitting next to that nurse that was flying around with Ebola. They wouldn't do the test for no reason.

    Enterovirus D-68 (EV-D68) is more of a concern. But he says he has a cold, so no worries there.
    I've had no contact with anybody even close to having been to West Africa.

    If it was ebola, and it jumped that easily from person to person in an airplane, we're all dead men walking then.
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  31. #987
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Yeah, no need for that unless he was sitting next to that nurse that was flying around with Ebola. They wouldn't do the test for no reason.

    Enterovirus D-68 (EV-D68) is more of a concern. But he says he has a cold, so no worries there.
    I agree that the Enterovirus is a bigger concern. I mentioned that very thing somewhere in here. I have 5 grandkids with 3 on the way, so it's on my mind since it's hitting children and killing some, while paralyzing others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

  32. #988
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Yeah, no need for that unless he was sitting next to that nurse that was flying around with Ebola. They wouldn't do the test for no reason.

    Enterovirus D-68 (EV-D68) is more of a concern. But he says he has a cold, so no worries there.

    I thought it was mostly kids getting enterovirus

  33. #989
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I've had no contact with anybody even close to having been to West Africa.

    If it was ebola, and it jumped that easily from person to person in an airplane, we're all dead men walking then.

    If it was Ebola you would be bleeding out by now

  34. #990
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    If it was Ebola you would be bleeding out by now
    After 10 days since he was on a plane??
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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