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  1. #691
    Some seem more concerned with the lame stream coverage. Regardless of that, 2 people in
    Dallas have or had Ebola and one has died. 70 other healthcare workers had the same type of contact as the nurse who contracted it. Whether the news is embellished, whether the oligarchy plans to annihilate us all is beside the point. It's here and regardless of whether more people are killed by the flu, the fact remains that more people who get Ebola will die from Ebola. It is also a huge assumption that people on this board are too stupid to get their news from avenues other than the msm or that they are too stupid to understand that the media and politicians will use this as yet another don't let a good crisis go to waste scenario.



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  3. #692
    Shutdown: A Single Ebola Patient Has Overwhelmed The System: Dallas Hospital Forced To Close Emergency Room

    Mac Slavo
    October 13th, 2014
    SHTFplan.com

    Despite numerous procedural missteps over the course of the last several weeks, the Centers for Disease control want the American public to believe they have everything under control.

    But with a second case now being confirmed in Dallas, one can’t help but consider that these so-called ‘protocols’ set forth by the CDC are either inadequate, or they are being wholly mismanaged.

    Where were the Hazmat suits for the police officers and clean-up crew that were first to arrive at Duncan’s Ebola-stricken apartment? Or what about the ambulance that carried numerous patients and personnel for 48 hours after Duncan was dropped off at the hospital before anyone realized it needed to be isolated? Or how about the quarantine procedures, which left Duncan’s extended relatives in an apartment with no established procedure for supplying the detainees with food? And why were others who were living in apartments adjacent to these, who had close proximity to Duncan’s ventilation systems, not moved? Moreover, why did the Obama administration wait almost two weeks before suggesting that we should be screening passengers arriving in the United States from flights originating in Africa?

    These are just a handful of the inconsistencies which suggest, among other things, that the CDC was caught completely off guard and unprepared.

    But if that’s not enough to convince you that we have a serious problem with emergency response protocols for pandemics and outbreaks, then perhaps the fact that a single Ebola patient in Dallas overwhelmed the system to such an extent that Texas Presbyterian had to shut down their emergency room to new patients.

    The CDC now is recommending that the Dallas hospital, Texas Health Presbyterian, keep the number of workers treating possible Ebola patients to an “absolute minimum,” Frieden said. The agency also wants the hospital to provide a full-time infection control officer to ensure that safety measures are followed with Ebola patients.

    Varga did not identify the worker and said her family has “requested total privacy.”

    The hospital announced Sunday that its emergency department had stopped until further notice accepting patients brought by ambulance “because of limitations in staffed capacity,” a step known as “diversion.”

    “While we are on diversion we are also using this time to further expand the margin of safety by triple-checking our full compliance with updated CDC guidelines,” the hospital said. “We are also continuing to monitor all staff who had some relation to Mr. Duncan’s care even if they are not assumed to be at significant risk of infection.”

    The infected woman sought care immediately after her symptoms developed and was placed in isolation at the hospital, Frieden said. (News Observer)

    That’s right. The hospital literally closed its doors to new patients.

    Consider for a moment what something like this might look like if several cases popped up throughout a major metro area simultaneously. Would all of the hospitals to which those infected with Ebola were taken then shut their doors to new patients?

    What this means for you is very simple and it’s something that members of the preparedness community have been warning about since before Ebola was even on the CDC’s domestic radar.

    If this virus (or any other contagion) spreads like it did in Africa, our entire health care system will be paralyzed.

    This means that whether a person needs medical attention for a viral infection or a broken arm, they will have nowhere to go for help.

    Continued...
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  4. #693



    CDC = Center For Disease and Confusion

    Oh yes, lets bring in Rudy Giuliani--the fascists.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  5. #694
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    Some seem more concerned with the lame stream coverage. Regardless of that, 2 people in
    Dallas have or had Ebola and one has died. 70 other healthcare workers had the same type of contact as the nurse who contracted it. Whether the news is embellished, whether the oligarchy plans to annihilate us all is beside the point. It's here and regardless of whether more people are killed by the flu, the fact remains that more people who get Ebola will die from Ebola. It is also a huge assumption that people on this board are too stupid to get their news from avenues other than the msm or that they are too stupid to understand that the media and politicians will use this as yet another don't let a good crisis go to waste scenario.
    I don't even watch the news, and the only reason I pull up news stories on the web is to read the comments. So yeah, I share your annoyance. Is it really so hard for these people to believe that the government just is a mass of orchestrated incompetence? Of course these tyrants are going to use this as an excuse in an attempt to expand their tyranny, when such is wholly unnecessary to address the problem. That doesn't make Ebola any less of a horrible disease.

    It still has not mutated to go properly airborne, and it is still not a threat to the US. Whether by deliberate malpractice, through utter incompetence, or from ignorance on high, the powers that be are still acting in a way that could potentially turn this thing into a threat in the future. Recognizing that this is being handled completely wrong does not equal buying the propaganda, if anything it's the dead opposite. If anybody is buying the propaganda, from where I sit it's the people pooh-poohing and pshawing.

    The panickers are not buying the propaganda, but they are still irrational and wrong. It's the propaganda that is trying to sell this as 'nothing to see here, move along.'

  6. #695

  7. #696
    . . . and 28 days later.

    If there is even a hint of trouble (or if zombies are spotted on trick-or-treat night),
    expect low altitude military air/fuel bombs to incinerate evabody shortly thereafter.



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  9. #697
    Quote Originally Posted by FindLiberty View Post
    . . . and 28 days later.

    If there is even a hint of trouble (or if zombies are spotted on trick-or-treat night),
    expect low altitude military air/fuel bombs to incinerate evabody shortly thereafter.
    And you won't see much 48 days later, or 60, or 120... Then they will have invent a "new" (or recycled) terror to get everyone to go "OMG!! We need our mother government to protect us!!!"
    BEWARE THE CULT OF "GOVERNMENT"

    Christian Anarchy - Our Only Hope For Liberty In Our Lifetime!
    Sonmi 451: Truth is singular. Its "versions" are mistruths.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ChristianAnarchist

    Use an internet archive site like
    THIS ONE
    to archive the article and create the link to the article content instead.

  10. #698
    Quote Originally Posted by FindLiberty View Post
    . . . and 28 days later.

    If there is even a hint of trouble (or if zombies are spotted on trick-or-treat night),
    expect low altitude military air/fuel bombs to incinerate evabody shortly thereafter.
    While FAX exists, that is Hollyweird. Daisycutters contain a AN slurry.

    -t

  11. #699
    Things are going seriously south. For starters, CDC blamed the nurse getting infected on a breakdown in the Ebola protocol. ie: blame the victim. When other nurses that had worked with Duncan (patient zero) about this, the reply was blank stares and "what protocol"?

    WHO has adjusted the fatality rate from 50% to 70%. This can largely be blamed on a shortage of beds.

    Realistic estimates are saying that for every patient they know about, there is another they do not know about, so 9,000 dead so far.

    By Dec 1st they are expecting 10,000 new cases PER WEEK! and that's about when the doubling period is expected to be every 7 days...

    9 out of 10 health care workers are local nationals. The doctors, nurses and grave diggers are all on strike for hazard pay. The gvmt basically said FU! if you don't get back to work, you will be fired and never work in the medical profession again. So this highly stressed situation is about to collapse.

    The people that clean aircraft are also on strike for hazard pay and PPE.

    ZMAPP is expected to be ready by Dec 15th. All 30,000 doses. The new vaccines early 2015 at the earliest.

    Our military is building 14 100 bed isolation units. So 1,400 beds at a pop. Way too little, too late.

    Despite claims that the first world is superior here, 86% of hospitals say they are not prepared to care for an Ebola patient. When ER's and clinics treat an Ebola patient people don't go there - just like happened in Western Africa. This means the health system collapses. We only have 4 hospitals set up for bio-level 4 cases (Ebola) so what maybe 40-80 beds top? In the entire country. When patients here and in Spain that were not in one of these special hospitals, people got infected.

    Reps from the relief communities are saying they need at least a 20X better ramped up response if they are to have any chance of controlling this.

    So yeah, we are basically screwed...

    -t
    Last edited by tangent4ronpaul; 10-15-2014 at 03:12 AM.

  12. #700
    It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds. -Samuel Adams

  13. #701
    Second health care worker in TX just diagnosed with Ebola.

    Didn't someone mention a NC one too - like yesterday? Suspected or confirmed?

    This one sounds confirmed.

    -t

  14. #702
    So, what is the guess, of how many cases of ebola would it take to send the economy into full out recession. I think that is probably the real threat. As if people google ebola pics, and some guy in their town has it, it's likely at least a good portion of the citizens will curtail their optional social activities. I mean who is going to go to the movies if a 100 people in your city are diagnosed with ebola. Who would go to the bar? I know if a couple people had it in this town, I would only do the absolute minimum interaction with people.

    Black Swan event? Guess it depends on spread.

  15. #703
    Joel Skousen mentioned his daughter had a persistent MRSA infection cured by blood UV irradiation.Who knows.I think people should make sure they know their blood type and those of them in their families.A good news aggregator is www.newsnow.co.uk

  16. #704
    Quote Originally Posted by S.Shorland View Post
    Joel Skousen mentioned his daughter had a persistent MRSA infection cured by blood UV irradiation.Who knows.I think people should make sure they know their blood type and those of them in their families.A good news aggregator is www.newsnow.co.uk
    Google EldonCard

    do not buy a kit that requires you to send the card in because you are too F'n stupid to figure this out - for a fee...

    I keep a few in my kit, but they do definitely have a shelf life.

    -t
    Last edited by tangent4ronpaul; 10-15-2014 at 05:28 AM.



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  18. #705
    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulIsGreat View Post
    So, what is the guess, of how many cases of ebola would it take to send the economy into full out recession. I think that is probably the real threat. As if people google ebola pics, and some guy in their town has it, it's likely at least a good portion of the citizens will curtail their optional social activities. I mean who is going to go to the movies if a 100 people in your city are diagnosed with ebola. Who would go to the bar? I know if a couple people had it in this town, I would only do the absolute minimum interaction with people.

    Black Swan event? Guess it depends on spread.
    FRN notes make pretty lousy TP but are ok for lighting fires.

    The first thing to go out will be the medical system.

    Then major cities - Think wall street, the HQ of major corporations...

    Down the line - really pucker up time - refineries, the bread belt, the electrical system, places that make chems (mainly in the NE) Stuff like that...

    SYSTEMIC FAIL!

    NOT Pretty! Depends on how far it spreads, but we look like we are set up for FAIL!

    -t

  19. #706
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-1...positive-ebola

    See some comments

    Nurses union complains medical waste piled to the ceiling at Texas Pres. Nurses didn't have anything to cover neck skin, so they were told to wrap MEDICAL TAPE AROUND THEIR NECKS!!

    We're so $#@!ed...

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  21. #708
    Quote Originally Posted by tangent4ronpaul View Post
    Second health care worker in TX just diagnosed with Ebola.

    Didn't someone mention a NC one too - like yesterday? Suspected or confirmed?

    This one sounds confirmed.

    -t
    Yes it's confirmed now. 48 of the ones monitored have almost reached the window of clearance. They are bringing in a team from Doctors without Borders because of their experience with the disease.

    http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire...a13e1a4a14c60e
    Last edited by Carlybee; 10-15-2014 at 06:48 AM.

  22. #709
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    Yes it's confirmed now. 48 of the ones monitored have almost reached the window of clearance. They are bringing in a team from Doctors without Borders because of their experience with the disease.

    http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire...a13e1a4a14c60e
    From the above article:

    It's not clear how the second health care worker contracted the virus, and authorities declined to say what position she holds at the hospital or the type of care she provided.

    Officials have said they don't know how the first health worker, a nurse, became infected. But the second case pointed to lapses beyond how one individual may have donned and removed personal protective garb.

    "An additional health care worker testing positive for Ebola is a serious concern, and the CDC has already taken active steps to minimize the risk to health care workers and the patient," the CDC said in a statement.

    "What happened there (in Dallas), regardless of the reason, is not acceptable. It shouldn't have happened," Anthony Fauci, director of the Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases of NIH, said on MSNBC on Wednesday.

    Fauci said he envisioned the CDC taking "a much more involved role" in establishing the proper training protocols for Ebola cases.

  23. #710
    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    From the above article:
    The nurses said Duncan was left in a non isolation area for several hours. There was no protocol, the protective clothing they did wear was inadequate. Total breakdown in preparedness and procedure.

  24. #711
    shoulda, woulda, coulda.....


    DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) - Two weeks after the first Ebola diagnosis on American soil, the Centers for Disease Control Director Dr. Thomas Frieden says the organization should have sent a larger response team to insure the virus did not spread to anyone else.
    http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/14/c...ola-diagnosis/

  25. #712
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    The nurses said Duncan was left in a non isolation area for several hours. There was no protocol, the protective clothing they did wear was inadequate. Total breakdown in preparedness and procedure.
    Nothing to worry about.....move along.



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  27. #713
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlybee View Post
    Yes it's confirmed now. 48 of the ones monitored have almost reached the window of clearance. They are bringing in a team from Doctors without Borders because of their experience with the disease.

    http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire...a13e1a4a14c60e
    TX is confirmed. Not NC.

  28. #714
    How many other patients in that hospital received care from those two nurses all the while protocol was lacking as they provided care for Duncan?

  29. #715
    DOW is Down 344+ Points.

    Edit: looks like it's bouncing back now, may have just been a blip.
    Last edited by orenbus; 10-15-2014 at 07:49 AM.
    It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds. -Samuel Adams

  30. #716
    Infectious Disease Experts, Safety Experts, Doctors and Nurses All Say the CDC Has Been Messing Up the Ebola Response

    Healthcare experts throughout the U.S. are strongly criticizing the Centers for Disease Control for its handling of Ebola. For example:


    • Infectious disease experts say the CDC is blaming nurses for their exposure to Ebola when the CDC has given faulty instructions on how to handle Ebola patients




    • Public health experts also criticize the CDC’s statement that any hospital in the U.S. can handle Ebola patients




    • And nurses are calling the CDC hypocrites for saying that cloth masks and goggles are sufficient … while CDC personnel wear respirators and full hazardous materials suits when visiting hospitals with Ebola patients

    Reprinted from Washington’s Blog.


    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/10/n...-denounce-cdc/

  31. #717
    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    TX is confirmed. Not NC.

    Yes I was referring to Texas.

  32. #718
    Quote Originally Posted by orenbus View Post
    DOW is Down 344+ Points.
    Invest in immune boosters and OTC anti virals. The immune boosters I bought 2 weeks ago have gone from $30 a bottle to $50 a bottle.

  33. #719
    I figure CDC is about as competent as CPS and that's not saying much.

  34. #720
    Found excellent documentary on Ebola and its probable infection characteristic. Ebola Doc



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